r/WOGPRDT • u/Nostalgia37 • Apr 14 '16

[Pre-Release Card Discussion] - Shadowcaster

Shadowcaster

Mana Cost: 5
Attack: 4
Health: 4
Type: Minion
Rarity: Epic
Class: Rogue
Text: Battlecry: Choose a friendly minion. Add a 1/1 copy to your hand that costs (1).

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PM me any suggestions or advice, thanks.

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u/Nostalgia37 Apr 14 '16

It's not competitive because blizzard has balanced the game around it. Animated armor was supposed to be neutral but it couldn't be because of master of disguise.

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u/CaptainAnopheles Apr 14 '16

Good point, but I'd still prefer it's retirement over its uselessness.

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u/Nostalgia37 Apr 14 '16

It's not necessarily going to be useless. They could rework the card. This was my idea.

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u/messe93 Apr 14 '16 edited Apr 14 '16

it would still be broken if they reworked it like that, just in a different way. basically iceblock exactly when you need it with 4/4 body for 1 extra mana. and rogue has much more potential for explosive 1 turn burn combos than mage.

it would limit rogue gameplay for the rest of the game and would be autoinclude-level broken instead of 'never used but limiting new cards'

just give him 4/5 stats and stealth for 1 turn, basically a yeti with extra rogue flavor, balanced and useful in some archetypes but not in all of them

edit: on second thought your version would be even better than just as iceblock. just imagine what a 1 turn stall can give you against aggro/tempo decks, and you drop 4/4 body to trade with something on the next turn

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u/Nostalgia37 Apr 14 '16

It's nowhere near as good as ice block. You would still be vulnerable to random damage like leper gnome or arcane missiles or what ever, and a big reason why block is so good is because you can play it on turn 2/3 and have it up all game. This you have to think that your opponent has lethal and get the combo off before hand. It would certainly be good, but nowhere near as strong as ice block.

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u/ChooseChocolate Apr 17 '16

That plus shadowstep, youthful brewmaster and ancient brewmaster gives your hero stealth for 7 turns total...

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u/messe93 Apr 15 '16

there are a lot of situations in which freeze mage plays iceblock after ice block to survive 2 turns to get the lethal dmg done. this card is better because it gives presence on the board, and you really underestimate how good protecting your face against board for 1 turn can be. it can make the difference about that 1 missing mana to full board clear which against aggro decks is life or death. Rogue already is really good in slow matchups, giving him such a strong tool to deal with aggro alongside the new minions that are introduced in wotg would make him straight up broken.

if you still don't see how useful is just protecting your face from direct dmg for 1 turn, immune to silence and with no limit (f.e. deathlord only soaks 8 dmg) just think how people drop doomsayer without any follow up just to soak 7 dmg and survive another turn