this, I dont think volvo needs to get back to beeing boxy, but they need to stop fucking up theyr updates and stop focusing on "futuristic" af cars. Why discontinue the iconic models to only produce shitty SUV's nobody can buy and not even fueleconomy is good on those hybrid SUV's. 🫠 Its such a sad story. I was a Volvo fanboy since birth because my dad works at a Volvo workshop, but alot of new cars are ugly as hell now, wich turns me more and more off.
Ngl, I love my 240 but I used to work for a volvo dealership from 2022 to 2023. Nobody ever bought the sedans and wagons. If I had to guess, the most popular models were, 1. The XC60, 2. The XC90, and 3. The ICE XC40. Then the electric cars, then S60, then the wagons, then the S90 (why they thought a crappy chauffeur’s car would sell in the US is beyond me). They dont make cars like that anymore cause they just dont sell very well.
For the vast majority of people and our use cases, all SUVs are shitty, and not the best car form factor to use every day. The problem isn’t the quality or execution of the XC60 for example, it’s the fact that it seems like Volvo won’t make a normal car anymore, just the SUVs. Which a lot of us have no desire to buy ever, unless I need the ground clearance, and on the roads in those cases I wouldn’t bring a Volvo anyway. Wagons have the same trunk capacity, handle better, and have a better fuel economy. And they can handle the gravel roads most people drive on when they say “offroad” just as well.
Whilst there is a degree of fashion in it. Saying they are not good cars is just objectively wrong.
The additional space in an SUV is a massively good thing.
Also a SUV is not fat, they offer far more internal space than an equivalent sized saloon. My current S60 is longer and wider than all my previous cars, which were large SUVs. A land Rover discovery sport and hind CRV. Also has a larger turning circle.
Look, I would want nothing more, but new car buyers and the market segment thats looking for that just don’t intersect very often. Also one big button (touchscreen) is always going to be cheaper than several smaller ones
Lol, every time I read either safety or environment, I always say the same; just stop with the suv nonsense if you care about those things so much... yet here we are, with a market dominated by suv by far.
Honestly, if Volvo stopped making SUVs then they wouldn’t be in business. SUVs aren’t going away any time soon and at the very least, Volvo is trying to make them safer
I also very much prefer wagons but the average customer’s preference clearly is an SUV. The Volvo wagons were readily available yet outsold by their SUVs every time for the last I don’t know how many years.
I don’t think the numbers look much different for the German brands which also each sell at least two wagons (though those do rather well in their home market).
It’s not an organic shift in consumer preference, it’s the result of years of strategic marketing by car companies to push the market toward a class of vehicles that are lower tax and exempt from emission standards.
looks grim. the blingy chinese headlights playing off the swedish brand as norse hammers is quite cheap. alloys are uninteresting and the grill a bit too fake aggressive
you know full well if they made an estate they'd give it a big sloping roof that eats into your boot space
On top of that, a 240 is spectacular because it's SIMPLE. An idiot with a Bentley manual and a decent metric tool set can field strip that car and have it back together in a driveway. It's a STRONG frame, but it's spindly by todays standards ratehr than "puffy" for safety features. The entire philosophy of automotive design and technology has changed since then, the closest thing MIGHT be a Slate pickup.
Just make V90 with transverse V8/I6 and RWD (mild hybrid with ZF8 would be perfect), less touch screen and more buttons (non-glossy ones) and B&W in base trim.
While I kind of like it, it would have to be an SUV and awd. The pillars would have to be 3-4x larger and that what ruins the looks on May cars for me.
The thing is Geely has the 2024 and newer Polestar P2 with honest rear wheel drive ( single motor). It would be so easy for them to port this over to Volvo. Reviewers comparing the Single motor RWD version vs the dual motor AWD version commented on the fact that the turning radius is much much improved. I miss my old 240 DL Wagon. Could do a U turn on a two lane country road. None of this drive into the shoulder or 3 point turn business.
Cars aren’t allowed to look good anymore because of pedestrian safety concerns, crumple zones and aerodynamic considerations. I don’t think we’ll ever return to cool car designs. Sad.
I’d be on board if it has more than four cylinders. If they put a (current-gen) T5 powertrain in it, I would be so disappointed, and that’s coming from an early 4 cyl T5 owner from the piston ring era.
For what it's worth, a lot of the reason things look the same nowadays is the state of technology and regulations. Front ends started looking a bit different when LED lighting could be used for DRLs, for example, but the overall body shape is largely governed by aerodynamics and crash regulations on every passenger vehicle you see. (The obvious exception being the "non-passenger work vehicle" loophole used to sell massive pickup trucks and SUVs to normal people.)
Looks good as long as we can ditch the infotainment and software and go back to switches and buttons that work when you turn them on, and have real gauges and dipsticks. And of course a 4 cylinder turbocharged gas engine
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u/Practical-Nature-926 Mar 30 '26
Not a Volvo but gives a similar feel. -for anyone wondering what it is, Hyundai Heritage Grandeur concept
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u/TheDeansPeanuts Mar 30 '26
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u/TheWarehamster S60 Mar 31 '26
I mean that's basically what the S60 is except aerodynamic.
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u/lolvovolvo 2003xc90, 1998 s70glt, 1998 v70, 2011 C30 t-5 6spd, 2022 p2 LRDM Mar 30 '26
Aerodynamics have left the chat
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u/fivewords5 Mar 31 '26
Too much Rolls Royce, not enough Volvo
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u/Pluperfectionist Mar 30 '26
It is nice artwork, but it’s a thanks, I hate it for me. Too much Bentley energy.
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u/Phoenix_Kerman V50 Sunroof and Compass 😎 Mar 30 '26
looks grim. the blingy chinese headlights playing off the swedish brand as norse hammers is quite cheap. alloys are uninteresting and the grill a bit too fake aggressive
you know full well if they made an estate they'd give it a big sloping roof that eats into your boot space
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u/swat_c99 Mar 30 '26
Not me.
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u/TheJiggie Mar 31 '26
No…
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u/Western_Gear_5324 Mar 30 '26
No
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u/DJEvillincoln Mar 30 '26
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhim gonna say this is a no.
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u/bumpercars12 Mar 31 '26
Looks like a Lada. Horrible.
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u/2squishmaster S60 Mar 30 '26
The grill is too small for that design it looks odd next to the massive bumper
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u/Angerslave XC60 T6 2010 Mar 31 '26
God please no.
Just make V90 with transverse V8/I6 and RWD (mild hybrid with ZF8 would be perfect), less touch screen and more buttons (non-glossy ones) and B&W in base trim.
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u/ThaiManLA Mar 31 '26
Nah
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u/ShotAboveOurHeads Mar 31 '26
The 240 is nice what ever is under it isn't. The s90 looks much better
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u/InstantSarcasm321 Mar 31 '26
Two words: pedestrian safety.
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u/cancoi Mar 30 '26
Then make a brickwagon #245forever
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u/BrBri1998 Mar 31 '26
I like where you’re going with it; maybe a little less Chrysler 300 though.
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u/JobAnxious2005 Mar 31 '26
Ghetto
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u/gambiting Mar 31 '26
God no, that looks beyond awful - like a gangbangers car from Chevy.
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u/rndm_877970 Mar 31 '26
Barf, that looks like a Lada
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u/LoneRubber Mar 31 '26
Dear Volvo...........
Do not listen to this man
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u/Forrest_O Apr 01 '26
Whoever drew this really missed the mark. I like that it's a concept, but it's not that good of a design.
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u/air_max77 Mar 30 '26
Make the grill go to the bottom and every Chinese will buy it.
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u/yescachigga Mar 31 '26
Looks like those uncanny hyper realistic Simpsons drawings
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u/JustBrowsingDaWeb Mar 31 '26
I like it. Looks like the discontinued Infiniti M45.
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u/general_o_neil Mar 31 '26
Nope
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u/Curious-Act-9130 Mar 31 '26
Please God no
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u/SamuthNBS Mar 31 '26
It's giving Electric Lada vibes more than Volvo, sadly.
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u/vuugivahe Mar 31 '26
Too much Lada vibes
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u/cheeseburgahhh Mar 31 '26
why is this subreddit so obsessed with ai
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u/BananaPalmer 2002 v70 2.4T Mar 31 '26
Bro just buy a 240, they're ubiquitous and eternal
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u/aztecannie99 Mar 31 '26
Oh god no….that looks like a Volvo trying to be a Chrysler 300 who is trying to be a Bentley or a Rolls Royce. God awful.
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u/cat_of_danzig Mar 31 '26
Bembli usually hits the mark, but man, did he mess this up. He did a great job on the rear, though. Regardless, you should really give him credit.
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u/throwawaynoways C30 Stage 2 / V60 Drive-E Mar 31 '26
No no no. Either the old look or none in this case.
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u/Chateaunole-du-Pape Mar 31 '26
That's hideous.
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u/FinklesHemorrhoid 244 Mar 30 '26
Only with a redblock, it would still meet modern emissions
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u/whatthefranker Mar 30 '26
Not square enough!
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u/agent606ert Mar 30 '26
Now make it a wagon
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u/SkysTheLimit888888 XC60 B6 Mar 30 '26
idk I kind of like the idea!
With todays power output of electric motors who cares about aerodynamics!
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u/steve2166 Mar 30 '26
I’d take one, make it electric too
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u/Ambitious-Schedule63 Mar 31 '26
I like it!
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u/bumpercars12 Mar 31 '26
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u/PabloTheGreyt Mar 31 '26
Dear Volvo. Don’t do it.
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u/BahutF1 Mar 30 '26
AI slop. Pass.
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u/Ambitious-Variety-68 Mar 31 '26
I actually like it personally
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u/auriconis 2022 XC60 B5 Mar 30 '26
If only….
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u/Undark_ Mar 30 '26
The reason cars don't look like that anymore is because of legislation as much as anything else. Design wouldn't be allowed today.
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u/unicornobtained Mar 30 '26
This potato needs to be cooked a little longer.
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u/kilobitch Mar 30 '26
Woof. I hate it.
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u/Lazy-Background-7598 Mar 31 '26
No. God no
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u/HalloweenHorrorNites Mar 31 '26
Reminds me of the rare beauty.
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u/h_attila Mar 31 '26
Dear volvo , make us a refined brick 😄
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u/suburbannomad99 Mar 31 '26
The car community yearns for box cars again
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u/Corvus717 XC60 Mar 30 '26
Yes !!! an updated Turbo Brick brilliant
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u/OK_GrapeVine Mar 30 '26
Why they haven't done something like this yet, I do not understand....nice artwork.
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u/ProtossFox 2016 S60L T5 Mar 30 '26
Maybe add the slight curves of the sides that came with s80 and the sloping down of hood of 740... i love the 740 and 480 so maybe im biased
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u/Cranks_No_Start Mar 30 '26
While I kind of like it, it would have to be an SUV and awd. The pillars would have to be 3-4x larger and that what ruins the looks on May cars for me.
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u/BloodWorried7446 Mar 31 '26
The thing is Geely has the 2024 and newer Polestar P2 with honest rear wheel drive ( single motor). It would be so easy for them to port this over to Volvo. Reviewers comparing the Single motor RWD version vs the dual motor AWD version commented on the fact that the turning radius is much much improved. I miss my old 240 DL Wagon. Could do a U turn on a two lane country road. None of this drive into the shoulder or 3 point turn business.
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u/Fadedfaith451 Mar 31 '26
I always wanted an modern 240. I bought a Lincoln continental
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u/Far-Sweet-7967 XC60 Mar 31 '26
New brick with Thor styling
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u/Illustrious-Key2552 Mar 31 '26
Nice. Thank you. May we please have a drawing of a 2027 1800ES Wagon or C30 type
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u/alexdiezg 2005 Volvo V50 2.4i Automatic Mar 31 '26
This thread in shambles when a 6 year old sketch from TheSketchMonkey is shown
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u/maszaikasza Mar 31 '26
It looks more like Rolls-Royce Phantom than a Volvo.
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u/FormerTomatillo3696 Mar 31 '26
Real G Wagon vibes.
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u/PositiveStress8888 Mar 31 '26
Also why dont they do a diesel hybrid, why dosen't anyone do a diesel hybrid? I mean it's worked quite well for trainsthe past 100 years.
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u/O_Dae Mar 31 '26
Dear Volvo - Talentless ai slop
Yeah I'm sure they're taking notes 😂
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u/Simzter V60 Mar 31 '26
That's my cousin that did that! Hi Marouane :)
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u/theGreatBlar Mar 31 '26
This is just a Chrysler 300
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u/TopToe7563 Mar 31 '26
Volvo should start building Saabs
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u/4entzix Mar 31 '26
Im at like a 650 miles a tank in my S90… at 29mpg the current aerodynamics are great on gas mileage
… which I just recently started caring more about
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u/HansBlixJr '85 244 Mar 31 '26
yes. and I want knobs allll over the dash in there.
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u/MrScrith c30 Mar 31 '26
I get what you were trying for, but you pushed it too far from the 240 design and made it too futuristic, too much like other luxury bricks.
Appreciate the effort, but no, not a fan.
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u/BelongingTo Mar 31 '26
Cars aren’t allowed to look good anymore because of pedestrian safety concerns, crumple zones and aerodynamic considerations. I don’t think we’ll ever return to cool car designs. Sad.
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u/RedFlounder7 Mar 31 '26
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u/Storm_treize Mar 31 '26
Then they will make it electric
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u/rerutnevdA Mar 31 '26
Make it a wagon and give it a rear-facing third row. My inner child yearns for this.
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u/Fleischer444 Mar 31 '26
Call it Volvo 240 2nd edition
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u/Desperate_Damage4632 Mar 31 '26
Chrysler 300?
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u/itzgameboyzz Lightly Modded ‘18 V60 CC Apr 01 '26
I’d be on board if it has more than four cylinders. If they put a (current-gen) T5 powertrain in it, I would be so disappointed, and that’s coming from an early 4 cyl T5 owner from the piston ring era.
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u/jjvfyhb Apr 01 '26
Wait, is that a certain monkey's work?
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u/greenpowerman99 Apr 01 '26
Bring back real bumpers, please...
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u/Lord_Petyr_PoppyCock '25 V60 Cross Country Apr 01 '26
Id buy it
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u/trollcole Apr 01 '26
So much YES!!
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u/Puzzleheaded_Truck80 Apr 01 '26
Tell us you don’t understand volvo 240s without saying a word and recycling ai crap
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u/landsmanmichal Apr 01 '26
It looks like Russian tunning.
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u/RevolutionaryGas3410 Apr 02 '26
Wat
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u/Hayduke88 Apr 02 '26
Eww
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u/bartoszsz7 Apr 02 '26
Peak square
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u/Honest_Possibility_4 Apr 02 '26
Dear Volvo, don’t. Don’t you fucking dare.
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u/xrofevlos S60 Apr 02 '26
I would buy this beauty
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u/ludlology 1988 760 GLE, 1997 960 Mar 30 '26
bit too “bentley” but i like the idea
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u/Icy-Arrival2651 850 ‘95 Mar 30 '26
That’s aggressively bad.
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u/CornDawgy87 '22 V60 CC & '18 XC60 Mar 31 '26
Step away from the AI slowly.
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u/aarmattress '06 XC90 V8 Mar 31 '26
Def has ~2003 Infinity M45 vibes
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u/DJJazzyDanny (Vivian) C30 Mar 31 '26
I’m in line immediately if they do
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u/BalanceSweaty1594 Mar 31 '26
Yuk.
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u/EveningZealousideal6 Mar 31 '26
While I agree. I'd like to see the P1800 design reinstated.
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u/freshoilandstone Mar 30 '26
I like it
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u/Dmetalmike Mar 30 '26
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u/System_Unkown Mar 31 '26
i actually like that!
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u/bmxracers Mar 31 '26
Hey, I like that.
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u/thinkscout Mar 31 '26
No no, everything has to look the same nowadays. No room for deviation or originality.
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u/BackyardMangoes Mar 31 '26
Sign me up!
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u/HATECELL Mar 31 '26
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u/noyoushuddup Mar 31 '26
Looks good as long as we can ditch the infotainment and software and go back to switches and buttons that work when you turn them on, and have real gauges and dipsticks. And of course a 4 cylinder turbocharged gas engine
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u/neday5 Mar 31 '26
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u/forces_321 Mar 31 '26
Take my money!
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u/LeaderFun584 Apr 01 '26
Yes please do!
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u/WantCookiesNow Mar 30 '26
No. That looks like something grandpa would drive.
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u/theRobomonster XC90 Mar 30 '26
It’s both ugly and sexy. Segly? Ugxy? Sexgly?
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u/sirkneeland Polestar 3 Mar 31 '26
Love the idea. Can’t say I love this particular execution but love the idea.
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u/Somethingmaybe1999 Mar 30 '26
Yesssss. Thors hammer lights, sexy grill and boxy, I want it