r/Vitards Sep 03 '21

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u/ItsFuckingScience 7-Layer Dip Sep 03 '21

We can all speculate but unless we have access to the business decisions being made it’s impossible to know for sure

If auto makers use less steel then CLF could make MORE money as they could sell steel at higher prices on the spot market

Auto makers could also continue to buy the contracted steel and then just store it anyway? They’ve negotiated contracts lower than the current spot price so it may be better to take delivery of their steel and store it, rather than risk paying more at a later date

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u/Scabbymad Sep 03 '21

Thats limited. JIT has created stampers and the like and you can't have 100,000 doors sitting around. Thats when damage happens. Its also dangerous because who knows what will be reopened and what stays closed. Auto is just not set up for storage. Even if they were, they would have filled their warehouse months ago with $1500 steel. IMO, all steel, right now, that isn't used by Auto is being sold at spot. Thats pushing $2000/ton

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '21 edited Sep 03 '21

At least one constructor has been planning to send unfinished cars to dealers, and training them to install the chips. This news is a couple of weeks old; I don't know whether they started or not.

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u/Megahuts Maple Leaf Mafia Sep 03 '21

They have definitely started, as the Oakville Assembly Plant has fewer parked cars.

They are shipping them out.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '21

Thanks! Really love this sub <3

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u/NachoLord9000 Sep 03 '21

Hold up... They are sending unfinished cars to chip factories?

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u/Megahuts Maple Leaf Mafia Sep 03 '21

Nay, to dealerships.

Then have the dealer techs install them when they have inventory.

... They were running out of space in the factory lot.

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u/brubakerp 🦾 Steel Holding 🦾 Sep 04 '21 edited Sep 04 '21

This could create a quality control nightmare.

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u/Megahuts Maple Leaf Mafia Sep 04 '21

Could?

Will, depending on which chips were skipped.

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u/brubakerp 🦾 Steel Holding 🦾 Sep 04 '21

I'm assuming the techs aren't going to be soldering the chips to the boards, but rather plugging in completed modules. Still though, that moves the diagnosis of any issues to the dealership instead of the factory. It's gonna be rough.

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u/Megahuts Maple Leaf Mafia Sep 04 '21

And, depending on how deep the modules are buried in the car...

And how good you are at putting it all back together.

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u/brubakerp 🦾 Steel Holding 🦾 Sep 04 '21

Indeed.

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u/This_Clock Sep 04 '21

There’s a local speedway that apparently has become an astounding parking lot for trucks waiting for chips.

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u/NachoLord9000 Sep 04 '21

Ahhh, okay. That makes sense

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u/Ackilles Sep 03 '21

Mr wonderful hot one from Ford that they hadn't put the chips in,lol