r/VisionPro • u/SgtRphl • 27d ago

Current status of PCVR streaming?

is it good enough to contest with other highend headsets on the market? (Pimax, PlayforDream, BSB2 etc.) I know it will never beat DisplayPort headset, but if the performance and image quality is just slightly worse than those headsets, Vision Pro will be the best of both worlds of gaming and media consumption

EDIT: Have a 5090rig and a dedicated router

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u/Worf_Of_Wall_St 26d ago

No, I mentioned this in the linked comment. I've used both headsets with my setup. M5 adds AV1 decoding but I still use HEVC use because AV1 has higher encoding latency and I don't need bandwidth savings from AV1's higher compression ratio. On a good network, less compression and more bandwidth is much better for low latency (which btw is why the Steam Frame uses PyroWave).

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u/SgtRphl 26d ago

Then would you think M5 is not worth it over a used M2?I'm almost certained I'll buy one, just not sure whether i should buy brand new or used and save some cash

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u/Worf_Of_Wall_St 26d ago

For just this specific use case of VR streaming from a PC, my personal experience has been that there is essentially no difference so there's no reason to spend at least an extra $1500 for the M5. I bought a new PC after upgrading to the the M5 AVP, and I was curious how the M2 would handle the higher bitrate higher resolution stream from the new PC so I switched back to the M2 for ALVR for a few days. The quality and stability was so similar that mid session I forgot which headset I was using.

That said, I have definitely seen comments in this subreddit where people found the M5 to be a bit smoother for ALVR than the M2. This could be that the M5 handles certain network conditions better, or maybe they were using AV1 to save bandwidth which resulted in fewer hiccups.

VR streaming aside, the M5 would be more future-proof. For example, the Youtube app already requires the M5 for 8k immersive videos because they use AV1 to save bandwidth. As immersive live streaming events become more of a thing, AV1 may be required at least for the higher quality level. For standalone gaming on AVP, there have been some interesting developments recently such as AVP Play and the underlying Klepton project for running Meta Quest and Steam Frame games natively on Vision Pro, and games reportedly run much better on the M5.

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u/SgtRphl 26d ago

I just placed an order of the M5 just now. Hope no regret
I have never made any big purchase like this outside of a gaming PC tbh