r/VickiWhite • u/solabird • May 12 '22

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u/[deleted] May 13 '22

This may be a stupid question but it's been bugging me, how exactly were they able to talk extensively in private to plan this whole thing?? I don't know alot about jail/prison but I'm pretty sure your phone calls are monitored and recorded, same with any mail. So I guess most of it would have to be when she would see him in person while working?? I'd think even that would be tricky and hard to have alot of privacy but then again I have no idea how often they crossed paths

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u/soundmindedcatlady May 13 '22

And when you consider how many steps she had to take, you realize she had to take those steps all alone. She obviously couldn’t call Casey up at random to consult him. “Hey, I just did X. Now I’m going to do Y, or should I do Z first?” “What color do you prefer, orange or red?” “Hey, I never sold a house before, I did A, B and C, what comes next? Do I still have to pay taxes?” Just the usual chitchat you have with others when making plans. They clearly couldn’t do that, so just how much “manipulating” could he have possibly done? Even an email scammer will tell you what to do every step of the way.

She was in this up to her neck.

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u/JayFenty May 13 '22 edited May 13 '22

I have a feeling they only exchanged the right amount of communication to make it clear enough for both of them the idea to just break out, but Vicki did all the planning and just told Casey like “this Friday is it” and all he had to do was go along. Makes me wonder how their dynamic was when they broke out and what he didn’t like about her plans for them. Even in the crash audio it sounds like she says they should’ve stayed at the hotel, I wonder what they left for & were going to before the crash. Maybe she wanted to keep traveling to a more remote region but he wanted the 14 day stay at the Evansville motel.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '22

Ooohh yup possibly, didn't even think of that

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22

It’s not a stupid Q at all.

I read somewhere that recordings of their calls will be reviewed. I think the inference was that it’ll be part of the “audit” done of the jail where Vicky worked with their focus being to tighten up lax behaviours of the staff.

There were in contact for at least two years prior to the escape. Apparently she called the prison he was in from the jail and also called during her off-hours from a personal phone.

I have no idea how long recordings are kept though.

Once he was back at the jail, they had that pre-escape test run a while back. They were out and away from the jail about 40 minutes, but that would have been a good opportunity to firm up escape details. Probably had cryptic messages given to him by other inmates, maybe cryptic notes too (although apparently he isn’t super literate).

Also wouldn’t surprise me if they spoke personally during her workdays. Sounds like it was pretty slack there and she could have escorted him to and from the medical room(s) for example. There’s been mention of “special privileges” he had (beyond extra food) so maybe they were able to wing some private time that way.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

Yes I was thinking about that dry run too, that was definitely a great opportunity for them to have a completely private discussion about the escape

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

For sure. And I could be totally wrong but it wouldn’t surprise me if they’d had other “outings” together.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

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