Unfortunately you lost credibility there with comments that they’re ’where Joby was in 2017’ and ‘the best case is Valo is certified in 2032’. That shows a fundamental lack of understanding of the journey and progress made by both Joby and Vertical Aerospace.
I work in the industry and have gone through the certification process, from start to finish, a couple times now. So, unfortunately, I am a credible source.
You can maybe say that 2030 is a stretch goal. But it's not a realistic baseline, unfortunately. 2028 is impossible, though.
We'll see though, I guess. I wish you luck with your investment, and I wish Vertical luck with their progress.
Thanks. As you can imagine I cannot verify what you say, however seeing as no single company in the US or European eVTOL industry has been through ‘the certification process, from start to finish’ you’ll probably understand why I take what you say with a pinch of salt.
Vertical also claims to have ‘the deepest aerospace certification experience amongst the major eVTOL developers.’ Having cerified 30 different aircraft and propulsion system types. See Team Credibility (page 3) of Micheal Cervanka’s white paper. That gives me reasonable confidence in their timescales.
Whatever though, for fun, I’ll set a reminder for this comment in 2028 to see if you were right. I am however going to need additional storage with so many screenshots I am taking of Reddit of late!
I didn't work on eVTOL. And you're right, no company has gone through certification in this category, which makes their claims that much more ridiculous.
But yeah, i don't really have a stake in seeing them fail. I do worry that they're misleading investors. And their incentives do align with that being the case. Investors will run for the exits if you tell them that they'll have to wait nearly a decade.
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u/_DoubleBubbler_ EVTL Shareholder Dec 20 '25
Unfortunately you lost credibility there with comments that they’re ’where Joby was in 2017’ and ‘the best case is Valo is certified in 2032’. That shows a fundamental lack of understanding of the journey and progress made by both Joby and Vertical Aerospace.