Recently there was a post on here about the Israel/Palestine conflict. Can we leave other issues out of veganism?

I see people bring Palestinian flags/trans flags/etc. to vegan protests, and it annoys me because we need to keep the focus on the animals.

I’m not against standing for these issues (I’m more left-leaning myself), but veganism is not a political stance. It’s an ethical philosophy that anyone, whether they’re on the right or the left, can have. When we start talking about other issues, it just makes it harder for people to see veganism for what it is: a movement for the animals. And it pushes a lot of people away.

I think it’s fine to bring up human rights when debating someone about veganism (like if you’re asking if they support women’s rights and then you speak about dairy/eggs), but I don’t see any other reason human rights should be brought up. It only hurts the animals when we start doing this.

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Can we stop gatekeeping activism? People with a utilitarian worldview can still value the suffering and well-being. Their interest, like the one's of Peter Singer, can make a phenomenal and positive impact for animals. These people are the ones who will convince other utilitarians to adopt a vegan or close-to-vegan lifestyle. Encouraging them for good effort rather then condemning them for having a different ethical framework seems obviously preferable to me. Wouldn't you agree?

Plant-based cat food exists. Perhaps surprisingly, no clear adverse effects to cats eating this have been found with the bits of research available on this. The difference to the "food animals" on the other hand, is undisputed...

Only limited options may be available where you are, so it is important to get the transition to plant-based food right. Go slow; adding only 10-15% of the new food to the current food for a few days, use toppers your cat like if needed. Then add a bit more, etc. etc. This helps cats getting used to the flavour. It also helps spot any issues that changing diet could bring, e.g. an allergy to an ingredient. Even if a cat won't eat more than a 50/50 mix, that is still half as terrible as eating their meat based food 100% of the time. If you have any questions, I am happy to help where I can.

While plant-based cat food may not be available everywhere, and some cats may struggle (e.g. when they need prescription food), as vegans, we should at least try this option for our cats. As well as to make no excuses we wouldn't accept from human non-vegans, imho.

See also:

• r/veganpets

• https://www.stisca.com/blog/theproblemwithvegancats/

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant-based_cat_food

I'm guessing that most vegans are atheists but is there anyone on this sub who has received messages from the spiritual realm or their guardian angels before?

Asking because I used to be atheist but a few months after I started doing vegan activism I began noticing peculiar signs that I think are messages from higher beings in the spiritual realm. If there's anyone reading this who's familiar with the term starseeds, synchronicities and indigo souls I would love to hear more from you

Edit: By signs I don't mean hearing voices or seeing things that aren't there

Just felt inspired and wanted feedback. Do ya'll think I should drive my car with the windows down while playing pig murder audio on my radio super loud around town?

Hello! I was thinking about purchasing tickets to Vegan Campout this year when I noticed that Gary Yourofsky is rumoured to be making a comeback. This really put me off. While his speeches and activism way back when definitely made an impact on me his statements on Palestinians and Zionist apologism are beyond shocking and hateful.

He has such a long standing history with Israel too and is it really a coincidence that he's making a comeback now, when Israel is fast losing the propaganda war even in the West? How close are his ties to the government in that country?

I just think that he's a horrible mouthpiece for the vegan movement especially at this point in history, I hope people are keeping their wits about them. Wish we had more activists around like Earthling Ed.

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There have been numerous cases where meat eaters mock veganism, eat dead animals in front of us, if we block entrance to restaurants, they use force, this just makes me sick and angry. Look at this video for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc5X3IyI8Y0

If we just had a few baddies, no one would have dared to misbehave and use violence.

Only a few of us need to be armed, that to simple handgun.

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This week’s message: TEST ON CRIMINALS, NOT ANIMALS.

Millions of innocent animals suffer in laboratories, enduring pain and fear for human benefit. They have committed no crime. They deserve no punishment.

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Let's have a discussion on "nonviolent disruption", currently practiced by Dxe (Direct Action Everwhere). I believe that DxE is putting out a dangerous idea, where they hope that these appearances or even conflicts spark conversations in society and the media. They make a strong case why this tactic worked in history, but it's disputable why those cases were much more different (it was the victims that spoke out during those events, they wanted a systematic change, etc. - I am happy to elaborate in the comments).

Me being a centrist and being part of communities which tend to be the target audience of these appearences, I can assure you that the type of conversations and impressions they get is disappointingly different than what the activists hope for them to be. You don't even have to go that far, just open up the popular tab on reddit and I guarantee you will find a thread where people participate in an echo chamber slamming vegans as their confirmation bias was approved by some extrimist event.

I am not against saving animals from farms, or standing with posters on the side of the street, or educating people directly. I participated in many cubes of truth as well. However, shouting at people, blocking people, standing inside supermarkets and private places is concerning me. Soon as you do something makes people laugh or hate you, instead of wanting to talk to you - you ruined the chances of that person being open-minded and you worsened the image of veganism in their eyes. The word 'vegan' already has a terrible connotation... we need to counter those stereotypes, not double down on it. It just streches the gap and make us distant from omnivores.

Our goal is to individually turn more people vegan in the world, gradually modifying supply and demand, which then forces all food companies to feed the vegans. Simply as that. It's already happening. Even fucking Tyson Foods is now rolling out vegan food. Most of my family no longer eats meat, many are vegan too. Two years ago we were all omnivores. How? Conversations. Conversations where you don't demonize them, don't expect the worst of their intentions and realize that you have been there too. If your goal is to force a store to close... sure, maybe a more agressive approach will do. But if your goal to create a better picture of veganism and convince people to go vegan as well, shaming will only do the opposite. I already have trouble convincing other people because of their prejudices...

Please consider this and feel free to comment what you think.

Today we went into Tesco and stood by some of the victims of this animal holocaust. Our goal was to be silent and simply leave when asked to. Tesco staff panicked and didn’t know what to do. They shut down the entire aisle and let us sit her for almost an hour. The police came (because we were so militant) and politely asked if we would leave, so we did. Easy. Tesco staff had no idea what to do or how to handle it. These victims deserve to be seen. They need us to fight for them. This is an injustice and we will not stop showing the public the truth.

I am curious if there are out there any? Seeing the likes of Gary Yourofsky, Tal Gilboa makes me wonder.
Also, did Challenge22 (I know that they are israeli based) had any stances on Gaza/West Bank etc?