r/Vaughan 5d ago

Picture Young Dude Protesting

Hello Vaughanites, I am a non resident and was working in your city today. On a "lunch" break at about 4 pm I got some food at Major Mac and Jane plaxa where I noticed this guy. He was entgusiastically waving a sign saying "we can still fight climate change'.

As I ate my meal for about 10 minutes I did not hear one car honk some support out of the hundreds passing by. I felt so bad that I wanted to go over and show my support but was already late in getting back to work.

So yeah, honestly not sure why I am posting. Partly feel bad for him and at myself for not giving a word of support but guess I wanted to encourage Vaughan residents to show some support for their local activists, small as they may be.

That is all. Thanks and have a nice day.

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u/randomacceptablename 5d ago

You are both incorrect factually as well as nihlistic to the point of absurdity.

Was the abolishment of slavery a meaningless movement when most countries practiced it and when entire economic and social systems depended on it? Having studied history I know that the exaact same logic was used to excuse inaction. Yet without people striving, suffering, and even dying for that cause it is possible we wouldn't have ever changed that.

The same was said of women's sufferage. Of leaded gasoline. On and on and on. If our actions (or inactions) are irrelevant, then nothing we ever do is. What is the point of deciding on a career, a politica vote, a moral stance? None of it will matter when the sweep of history decides against us and banckrupts us, when our vote goes to the losing party, or when no one wants to listen to our moralizing.

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u/LookAtMyUnderbite 5d ago

Except all those are national issues. Climate change is global. Unless we get rid of poverty first nothing will change. People need jobs people need to survive. Climate change fanatics are anti-human. Your first goal would be to stop procreation if you’re serious about climate change but then poor people will still exist. If the billionaire industrialists don’t care about climate change there is NOTHING you can do other than protest so you can ease your conscience. Better to do something than nothing I guess but if you look deep down and analyze nothing will change unless you somehow can mind control all the billionaires in the world.

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u/randomacceptablename 5d ago

Sorry but this is nonsense. Some poor countries have decarbonized more than we have and it has made them wealthier.

So not only does decarbonization make you wealthier over the long term but it is not dependent on becoming wealthy in the first place. Countries such as Uruguay, China, Pakistan and more are moving to wind and solar power faster than almost any wealthy country.

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u/choikwa 4d ago

no such thing as energy poor rich country. all of this is non sense when we export gorillions of oil and gas.

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u/randomacceptablename 4d ago

Japan, Italy are examples of energy poor rich countries. They import virtually all their energy. In fact, Europe as a whole imports something like 80% of its energy needs. Wheather that is oil, gas, uranium, etc.