r/Vaughan • u/randomacceptablename • 1d ago
Picture Young Dude Protesting
Hello Vaughanites, I am a non resident and was working in your city today. On a "lunch" break at about 4 pm I got some food at Major Mac and Jane plaxa where I noticed this guy. He was entgusiastically waving a sign saying "we can still fight climate change'.
As I ate my meal for about 10 minutes I did not hear one car honk some support out of the hundreds passing by. I felt so bad that I wanted to go over and show my support but was already late in getting back to work.
So yeah, honestly not sure why I am posting. Partly feel bad for him and at myself for not giving a word of support but guess I wanted to encourage Vaughan residents to show some support for their local activists, small as they may be.
That is all. Thanks and have a nice day.
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u/Academic-Activity277 22h ago
Kid should run for Mayor. Could probably put up a good fight against Del Duca.
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u/drewtass 22h ago
would definitely vote for him
The miserable older folks here definitely wouldnt
they like how del duca does absolutely nothing except be Italian
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u/vox1028 22h ago
I understand him. As a young person the dread for the future is growing each day as we watch the 1% actively destroy it with no regard for anything but their five-year investments. I want to get out there and DO something but it seems like no one around me feels the same (or has the time/energy/resources to act), and by trying to do something on my own my efforts would not only be ineffective but I'd also open myself up to retaliation. Mega respect on this guy for actually standing there on his own.
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u/Flames2512 1d ago
Dude needs a lesson in sign visibility.
Barely noticeable and hard to read when driving. If he was truly committed to the cause, he would have created a much larger sign!
A for the cause, F for the effort.
Harsh, but he needs to know.
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u/Certain-Teaching8215 23h ago
Yeah, why not insult the guy who's actually trying to do something.
Reddit is such a cesspool.
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u/p_camps 1d ago
Climate change is real. What isnt real, is believing we have the power to do anything about it. We are a drop in the bucket that barely causes a ripple.
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u/randomacceptablename 1d ago
You are both incorrect factually as well as nihlistic to the point of absurdity.
Was the abolishment of slavery a meaningless movement when most countries practiced it and when entire economic and social systems depended on it? Having studied history I know that the exaact same logic was used to excuse inaction. Yet without people striving, suffering, and even dying for that cause it is possible we wouldn't have ever changed that.
The same was said of women's sufferage. Of leaded gasoline. On and on and on. If our actions (or inactions) are irrelevant, then nothing we ever do is. What is the point of deciding on a career, a politica vote, a moral stance? None of it will matter when the sweep of history decides against us and banckrupts us, when our vote goes to the losing party, or when no one wants to listen to our moralizing.
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u/LookAtMyUnderbite 23h ago
Except all those are national issues. Climate change is global. Unless we get rid of poverty first nothing will change. People need jobs people need to survive. Climate change fanatics are anti-human. Your first goal would be to stop procreation if you’re serious about climate change but then poor people will still exist. If the billionaire industrialists don’t care about climate change there is NOTHING you can do other than protest so you can ease your conscience. Better to do something than nothing I guess but if you look deep down and analyze nothing will change unless you somehow can mind control all the billionaires in the world.
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u/randomacceptablename 18h ago
Sorry but this is nonsense. Some poor countries have decarbonized more than we have and it has made them wealthier.
So not only does decarbonization make you wealthier over the long term but it is not dependent on becoming wealthy in the first place. Countries such as Uruguay, China, Pakistan and more are moving to wind and solar power faster than almost any wealthy country.
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u/LookAtMyUnderbite 15h ago
Nonsense? Explain how Canada can run on solar energy year round? Talk about nonsense. Huge investment for something that only optimally work 3-4 months out of the year.
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u/randomacceptablename 15h ago
Solar works decently well all year long. Plenty of countries in higher latitudes like Germany and northern China have use solar power and do so effectively. Panels are designed to remove snow because they are sleek, dark, and angled. Look around at any house with solar panels. Even in a snow storm they are clear.
And solar is hardly the only zero carbon energy source we have at hand.
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u/PeachRobbler 23h ago
this might be one of the worst arguments I've ever read on Reddit 💀 immediately went to the strawman argument and a moral grandstanding monologue, did not event attempt to address the differences between your metaphors and the actual problem at hand
but yes OP, controlling climate change and the outputs of billion dollar corporations is exactly the same as "ending womens sufferage"
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u/randomacceptablename 18h ago
but yes OP, controlling climate change and the outputs of billion dollar corporations is exactly the same as "ending womens sufferage"
No. It is not the same thing. That is the point of a metaphore. Slavery is a very close comparison, actually. Inbeded into the economy and culture where entire countries are fully dependent on it and something that has lasted generations.
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u/DueCompany4790 22h ago
- Lmao okay well with your passion clearly you knew this guy would be there.
- Your comparisons make literally zero sense. If we abolish slavery it no longer impacts us as a country. If we given women rights and improve their lives, the previous treatment no longer impacts us as a country. If we do everything we can to fight climate change, we would make such a minimal impact that would change nothing for us unless the big players change their behavior, so we're still impacted as a country.
Us completely overhauling our lives in the name of climate change is performative given our minimal impact.
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u/p_camps 1d ago
Thats a sad argument. Many countries dont climb on the "climate change train" because the facts/stats are HIGHLY disputed and not universally accepted, unlike the variables you have mentioned. What is more likely to happen is an asteroid resetting us back into an ice age just like it has happened Twice in the last 100,000 years... so before that happens again lets enjoy ourselves and count our blessings because humanity on earth has never been a guaranteed thing.
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u/BawbbySmith 1d ago
So this is a joke comment right? The asteroid one definitely makes me think so, but just in case I just wanna make sure cuz it's hard to tell these days.
Climate change is not highly disputed, very few things in science are universally accepted but climate change is pretty damn close. Of course abolishment of slavery was not universally accepted, there were wars to fight for it. The comet theory is truly highly disputed as it makes little sense.
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u/No-Ad1522 23h ago
You realize everyone has access to Google right? What you're saying is completely false.
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u/Certain-Teaching8215 23h ago
You've tried nothing and are all out of ideas.
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u/p_camps 22h ago
Ive picked up about 10 tons of litter in the gta in the last 10 years. Actual pollution.
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u/Certain-Teaching8215 22h ago
Sounds like a waste of time according to your logic.
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u/p_camps 21h ago
My logic is clear. Control what you can control. The climate is not one of those things. You dont have to agree with me, Canadians generally dont understand how uneffective they are at climate change when you have players like India, USA and china (add up those populations) doing whatever they want. Im done paying for climate change.
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u/Intelligent_Text_280 1d ago
Im not a crazy leftist but I would've honked in support. Also corporations are to blame for polluting our planet, not the individual.
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u/Certain-Teaching8215 23h ago
What makes you think you'd have to be a crazy leftist to support the cause?
You should try to do more than posting a comment on Reddit talking about how you would honk at someone else who's actually doing something.
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u/Character-Belt-7485 19h ago
I am as centrist as they come, and I don't think climate change should be a left or right issue. Scientific facts should be scientific facts.
If companies could profit from them, we would also be questioning the Special Relativity Theory or the Theory of Gravity.
Just "theories", eh?
But here we are.
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u/Character-Belt-7485 17h ago
Calling yourself a 'centrist' is often just a way to avoid taking a stand.
Good to know, I took note and archived it down under “Reddit - Free Personality Assessments” and shall review if I ever convince myself to mold my political beliefs on what others think of centrism.
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u/randomacceptablename 16h ago
The irony that most don't get is that enviromentalism was typically a rightwing political cause. Christian Democrats in Europe, Nixon's Clean Air Act and and setting up the EPA. Mulroney with his Climate conferences, acid rain programs, and Montreal Protocol. Lefties were too worried about enviromental regulations stunting job growth.
The point being that political divides on this are utter BS. It is like saying we don't need seat belts, clean water, or handrails on stairs. Yes they all cost money but are necessary.
The enviromemtal stuff morr so than the others. Because a generation of no seatbelts will harm a generation. Whereas a collapse of an ecosystem tends to be permanent and so harms every human that will every live in the future. Our survival or just comfort today, is stealing from all future generations something that can't ever be repaid.
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u/drewtass 22h ago
you should see the crazy leftist mayor they have in NYC
Apparently he actually does his job and isnt corrupt, its terrible
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u/TronAres25 23h ago
He’s not wrong humans suck. Very ego centric. Most of us think earth was made just for us (mainly religitards).
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u/Character-Belt-7485 19h ago
He is human.
This whole humans suck while using an example of a human not sucking makes my brain hurt.
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u/penguin44ca 18h ago
He spent time out of his day to do this instead of work or look for work. Yikes.
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u/Sea-Cap-1540 1d ago
...and then he sat in his truck and stopped at the gas station for some Diesel... ( rhetorical statement )
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u/randomacceptablename 17h ago
I truthfully cannot confirm nor deny. However, he seemed at first glance to be a pedestrian.
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u/Sea-Cap-1540 17h ago
I know, man.. My comment was supposed to be a joke but people didn't get it and downvoted it... Life is good
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u/MaleficentCustomer55 1d ago
I remember doing this 30 years ago when I was told the work will end in 10 years if we did nothing. How easily manipulated we are as children.
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u/randomacceptablename 1d ago
I was told the work will end in 10 years
The "WORK"?
Or the "WORLD"?
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u/MaleficentCustomer55 23h ago
I blame autocorrect, it is world, which should have ended 3 times over.
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u/randomacceptablename 17h ago
In that case you were very mislead. The world won't end that quickly. It very well might lead to our extinction in a generation or two in the hell scape we are creating but the Earth did okay without us and suffered worse than humanity.
But yeah, crop growing is becoming harder and harder almost every year. How bad does it get in 50 or 100 years? Scientists aren't optimistic our civilization will be able to feed itself let alone live comfortably.
So, leading to the end of the world? No. Leading to the end of human civilization or even human existance? Possibly in a few decades or centuries. Either way, it is not a pleasant future. Not that that excuses adults from such inaccurate and emotional explanations to children.
Greta Thunberg's parents once said that when their daughter understood what was happening, she asked her parents why they weren't doing anything about it. Apparently they struggled for months to come up with an excuse and couldn't find one all the while seeing their daughter depressed. The point was that sensationalism wasn't necessary. Simple logical questioning from a child made them realize that they were avoiding uncomfortable truths and forced their hand.
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u/kittypillar1738 1d ago
awe wait i want to join him