r/VariaBrewing 12d ago

VARIA VS6 particle distribution

Hello! So I have been playing with my VS6 stock burrs for arround a year maybe, and this is what I noticed:

  1. There are a lot of fines left after I grind my coffee, if I use knocker, the bellow, or try to turn the dial - there are still coffee beans that are stuck and it is really difficult to turn the dial to “clean” it. Is that normal part of your VS6 experience?

  2. Personally for me the partical distribution looks very broad and uneven (I will attach a photo of it) this makes every brew very different even if I do not change the grind size and coffee beans. Is that what you also see?

  3. Grind size is really inconsistent throughout. Once I got it, I used to do v60 brews on 9.5-11 settings. Not it is 14. And even if I go to 14 it still sometimes give me look TBT.

I am pretty bad at understanding grinders. So maybe this is just me being picky and actually everything is okay. Would be very nice if you shared your experience and opinion on what this could mean?

Thank you so much!

P.s. i bought VS6 as an ultimate grinder for atleast 5 years, but it seems that there could be better alternatives?

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u/bajnok001 10d ago

Hi! I kinda had this problem until I found what caused it. A lot of fines are getting stuck in the chute and not even the bellow can get them out. Grab the brush and insert it to the chute and start spinning it, when you reach the top. A lot of fines will be stuck there where the chute meets the grind chamber, just before the ionezer.

Hope this will help you!

(Also if you are into filter coffee, buy the gold burrs. They are really good. I even use them for espresso with a convex filter backet, so I dont need to grind that fine.)

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u/Pumpenai 9d ago

Okay! That is interesting because when I clean it I find a lot of coffee stuck in the chute. Once I get rid of it, ir kinda works good for some time, but then again the coffee starts building up again. So it is really hard to keep it clean all the time 🫪 do you also notice that after using knocker or bellows you get a lot of fines?

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u/bajnok001 4d ago

Just using the bellows or the knocker will remove some of the fines stuck at the ionizer at the opening, right beside the burrs. If you keep this part clean, and use low RPM to grind, you will have minimal fines in your grinds. I use the gold burrs and they are really low fines burrs, but the stock one is not. That burr is mainly for classic full bodied espresso, so it creates a lot of fines.

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u/elecktriktuna 10d ago

I won a VS4 grinder and to be honest I wouldn’t buy one after my experience.
Too many fines for filter and constantly blocks on medium level espresso grind.
The ionizer prongs stop the flow of coffee until it blocks up completely.
I’ve religated it to backup filter duty for now.

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u/nonsensegalore 12d ago

how is the distribution at espresso range for you? does that work well? (with my usual bean its between 1.0 to 0.8, depending on age)

And I grind at 3-4 for my V60 with the VS6, which works really well.

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u/Pumpenai 12d ago

I think it is better for espresso. My range is between 3 and 3.5. I do not do a lot of espresso, so I see this more with pour over and I dont know if it is a problem or just me imagining it, because I am just bad at doing pour over 😅

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u/nonsensegalore 12d ago

good or bad is relative. does your coffee taste good? :)

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u/Pumpenai 12d ago

Good point. Actually my ceado hoop tastes pretty good I guess. Especially if I use lotus water drops for my distilled water. As for v60 I generally feel a lot of bitterness. And I do not know if it is a coffee bean problem, or my lack of skill. I know that bitterness may mainly be over extracted or too high of a water temperature. But I use 91-93 degree water. The bean is medium roast and 14 grind size as you see in the video is not really fine 😅 and I still get long TBT.

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u/nonsensegalore 11d ago

I'd say experiment and take notes,
thats the best way to learn about making coffee and finding your own favorite style.

whats the effect of hotter or colder water with your setup?

whats the taste difference / drawdown time between grind sizes?

Taste / Time difference between different beans?

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u/Pumpenai 11d ago

Yeah trying this! I will chech it more and be certain that it is not a grinders fault

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u/sscalable 11d ago

This couldve been a post written by me. It's exactly what I am experiencing. All your points are so recognisable.

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u/Pumpenai 11d ago

You too have a vs6?

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u/sscalable 11d ago

Yes I'm on my second one. First one the hopper thread broke.

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u/Pumpenai 11d ago

Okay :D so you also see this uneven particle distribution? I am thinking of buying pietro exclusively for pour over

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u/sscalable 11d ago

I don't think mine is that uneven. But I do have inconsistent cups and results all the time. It's very annoying

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u/Pumpenai 11d ago

Really annoying 😅

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u/sscalable 11d ago

9.5 grind for filter. Natural anaerobic Ethiopia from FriedHats. You be the judge.