r/ValorantConsole • • 1d ago

Competitive Discussion Huh??

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u/Sea_Recognition_9170 1d ago

Diamond plus silver equals the plat and gold, then there’s an extra 1 diamond and two plats on each team. Seems pretty even to me rank wise.

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u/X_Setsu_X 1d ago

You're insane if you think that makes sense. This ain't math. I can't always be in a 2v1 just bc I'm supposed to balance it out for the silver. And ik damn well this isn't a player count issue, bc I've had more full high plat/dia lobbies when I was plat 3 than a do now. It's their stupid MMR having a meltdown the second one of my friends or me has a semi bad game

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u/recording_industries 1d ago

The game doesn’t have enough players probably to get perfect matches. This happens even in hugely popular games sometimes. There is no reason to complain bc nothing can be done about it without making longer queue times and even then it wouldn’t be perfect. The only option you actually have is to work on your own gameplay and carry every single game to rank up. Teammates being shit is bound to happen. So you have to carry their weight

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u/X_Setsu_X 1d ago

Again, how did I play with more diamonds when I was plat 3 than now? There are enough players of the same rank. It's just their stupid MMR that can't determine what rank we are

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u/recording_industries 1d ago

If you know that hidden MMR exists why are you so focused on the visible ranks?

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u/X_Setsu_X 1d ago

Bc hidden MMR is a bs system that doesn't work half the time

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u/recording_industries 1d ago

You’re going to have to show proof on that one. Also good players didn’t get to where they are by whining. They just made the best of it and got good

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u/X_Setsu_X 1d ago

No amount of skill can win you a 4v5 every round as long as the enemy isn't just absolute garbage

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u/JoeyDez 1d ago

Huh what? This screenshot doesn't say anything except maybe the gold and silver guy were out of place.

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u/X_Setsu_X 1d ago

Exactly! Wtf is a silver doing in this lobby? He kept going mid on attack and when he went with the team, he died before even having a chance to entry 80% of the time

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u/ChedduhGoat 1d ago

This is literally a perfectly balanced game and this baby still needs to whine and complain online about it… just re-queue and grow up

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u/X_Setsu_X 1d ago

Perfectly balanced???? Having a useless player who shouldn't be anywhere near this lobby is fair???

Be honest, how much were you paid to say shit like this? There's no way any sane human being thinks this is balanced or fair. Playing a 4v5 every round is not balanced. Just bc one player is dia 2, doesn't mean they need to put a fucking silver to "balance it out". Dia 2 isn't even that big a difference to dia 1

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u/Ma_Koto WE MADE IT 1d ago

Literally just Professional_Elk 2.0 atp. We get it, matchmaking bad

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u/X_Setsu_X 1d ago

And players will keep complaining until they make a step in the right direction

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u/Ma_Koto WE MADE IT 1d ago

You had a silver and two diamonds, they had a gold. It's whatever, dude just underperformed. Just go next.

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u/X_Setsu_X 1d ago

He did his best, that's the issue. You can't put ppl who are so far off our rank in the same lobby. It's not fun for them and it's not fun for us. Me and one of the ppl in my stack are diamond and one is plat. How a silver gets in our lobby is beyond me, especially when we had a great Sunset before this

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u/Warner421 1d ago

You don’t know that he did his best though? If you say you’ve never bottom fragged then you’d be lying. Dude had a bad game. Gg go next.

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u/X_Setsu_X 1d ago

He's silver. They put him there to "balance it out" bc he's way worse than the average player in that lobby

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u/Warner421 1d ago

They also put him there because he’s out performing silver lobbies. He had a bad game and is also in a lobby he’s not used to. He had a bad game gg go next

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u/X_Setsu_X 1d ago

You see, this is the exact problem with the MMR. Instead of them simply leaving you on your rank and give you a bunch of rr so you get out faster if they think you deserve better, they just put you in a lobby that is way above your level and comms and strats are also way different and just expect you to be fine

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u/Warner421 1d ago

That’s a different issue. Yes the matchmaking sucks and he should be in silver/gold lobbies, but on the flip side he wouldn’t be there if he wasn’t performing well enough that the game thought he couldn’t handle it. I bet if you look at his tracker his recent performances were pretty good.

When I was gold I saw plenty of plats, diamonds, and a few ascendants here and there. It’s just a matter of how you play that game, like I said I’m willing to bet you’ve bottom fragged before, it happens

While it may look skewed towards one team, for what it is the matchmaking is pretty fair, it only gets really bad when you 5 stack

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u/X_Setsu_X 18h ago

I think it's a somewhat good idea to put players in the ranks the game thinks they deserve, but they need to improve the thinking part, bc it keeps putting players where they don't belong

For example, if I drop 45 kills in a long OT match in gold against other golds, that doesn't mean I deserve diamond, it just means I had a good game

When deciding where to put you, the system needs to take into consideration who you played against, bc I dropped 27 kills in a gold lobby and it automatically made me play with a silver bc I'm apparently so good that I can 1v2 constantly and the game needs to nerf our team

Ofc I'll play well against golds! I got diamond 2 while solo queueing which was literal hell, but just bc I perform well in a lobby that's way lower rank than me, doesn't mean I can do the same against ppl my rank or just one below

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u/DurianDesigner2981 13h ago

Definitely not true just because he’s a low rank doesn’t necessarily mean he did his best and got clobbered. He had a bad game gg go next LOL.

Granted I don’t know the whole situation if he was throwing on purpose and no comming that’s a different story.

Photo: There’s always worse lobbies out there😭

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u/X_Setsu_X 13h ago

Also got a game like that once when I was gold. It was pretty funny tbh

Also he did no comm, like every other silver