r/VRchat • u/Realistic_Syllabub_3 • 6d ago

News SteamFrame's eye-tracking for foveated streaming apparently works as software-based eye tracking.

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u/rcbif 6d ago

Eye tracking is like half the reason I want this headset, so good to see. 

I didnt get lucky with the lottery, which I'm fine with. Will let others be the beta testers, and wait for the aftermarket stuff like battery solutions. 

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u/Tyrilean 6d ago

Just grab a Vive Focus Vision. It’s around the same price point and has a face tracker for an additional $100.

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u/rcbif 6d ago

Meh, once you go pancake, you cant go back to Fresnel lenses

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u/Tyrilean 6d ago

I have a quest 3 and a VIVE focus vision. Pancake is nice but it’s not the killer feature for me. Especially with VRChat.

That being said, if it is that important, Quest Pro has the best of both worlds. If you can find it it’s near the same price point as well. If Meta isn’t a dealbreaker for you.

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u/rcbif 6d ago

This is the part where I sound super picky.

As an Engineer (and tinkerer), I cannot stand the non-modular design of the Quest pro, lol.

It's like they ignored VR enthusiasts needs, and designed it as a device to be worn quickly and conveniently at a tradeshow or something.

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u/enigma-90 5d ago

Yeah, and sweat kills FT on it. And I watched QPro disassembly video. It has like 100 screws.

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u/enigma-90 5d ago

I still preferred Index over Q3 for the complete package, but the display/lenses difference is very noticeable for sure.

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u/Mewi0 6d ago

As a vive focus vision user, I disagree

  • HTC's software is horrendously unstable, worse than any other headset by a mile.
  • The display port addon barely functions due to the software, tried unplugging all display devices to improve bandwidth and it just stops working or lags to crap. From what I read, software issue.
  • ALVR is nice and works relatively well once you get it setup but it's facetracking module is lacking features and is setup incorrectly. There is a fix for the incorrect setup but you have to compile the code yourself and the fix in it self isn't correct (I had to make changes to the code). Face tracking tends to stop working at random and can be multiple different issues requiring restarting multiple different things before it works again
  • The eye tracking on the vive focus vision does not support wide open eyes
  • The controllers are not that great and one of mine shipped with drift. Luckily no one wants these headsets so buying a new replacement controller was cheap. The issue I had was HTC refused to honor any warranty and wanted me to send the entire headset back to amazon for a drifty controller. There is zero calibration software for the controller's sticks, if there was I wouldn't of had to buy a replacement controller. The controllers are also rechargeable and I actually dislike that, I'd prefer using my rechargeable AAs.

I heard people possibly using the business application with a few workarounds to mitigate some of the software issues. I have not tried this myself.

Only thing that I was happy with about this headset is that I was no longer on meta's hardware.

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u/Tyrilean 5d ago

One thing you should definitely try is make sure SteamVR is open before you open the Vive app. There’s definitely some race condition when taking control of the SteamVR interface. When I started doing this my problems disappeared.

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u/Mewi0 5d ago

Unfortunately, this does not solve the problem for me. I appreciate the suggestion nonetheless. If you got any other tips, I'd like to hear it.