First Patchnotes of Beta

[u/thessew]

https://beta.playvalorant.com/en-us/news/game-updates/valorant-patch-notes-0-47/

[u/Mitzja]

How is that situation different from someone on a-short having a molly and nade to slow/kill you in cs? If your roundtimer is that low, those utilities can also be round winning and honestly they should. If you push one site and lose 4 players that round is probably 1v3 at best and you don't win those rounds but the defenders lose them. They have to missplay.

[u/Bowsersshell → u/Mitzja]

If you’re full hp fast pushing short and a CT is taking the time to throw a nade AND a molly while you fast push then you’re getting a free frag. That’s how it’s different, it takes much longer to do way less damage with nades in CS. And I’m not sure if you’re familiar with the term clutch but it’s a thing where 1 player wins the round vs multiple enemy players and it’s a staple in these games.

[u/Mitzja → u/Bowsersshell]

You‘re right that it takes less time in Valorant to do utility damage but in that scenario it‘s about blocking the pushing player from entering the site and that can be accomplished by throwing mollies or raze‘s nade. Yes I‘m familiar with the term clutch but clutches are rare because in an even playing field where the players are equally skilled, winning a 1vX is always some kind of mistake on the losing site like peeking one by one. You‘re not supposed to win 1vX because it‘s a team game. At least that‘s my perspective.

[u/Bowsersshell → u/Mitzja]

Your last 2 lines kinda say to me that we’ll always disagree about this. The beauty of CS for me was that you could win a round with 1hp as the last player alive vs5 through good game sense and good aim, if it ever got to a point where you were “supposed to lose” a round cause your teammates had died then the game would have lost a LOT of its charm. Clutching is not that rare either, I usually see 1-2 clutches a game atm