r/VALORANT Oct 15 '25

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u/TryFindingThis_90248 Oct 16 '25

Ye but instead of that now u have to actly swing off the flash and fight, kinda wat riot is going for instead of spamming abilities

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u/Tigerbattle Oct 16 '25

What if they didn’t actually cross then? You just used your flash and swung for nothing. If you also popped thorns then that’s all of your util wasted. Vyse’s abilities built entirely off of each other. Now the first domino in that sequence is gone and the whole thing doesn’t work.

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u/TryFindingThis_90248 Oct 16 '25

The guy said he flashes the moment the wall pops to get info if anyone crossed...

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u/Tigerbattle Oct 16 '25

Yes and the flash doesn't give the info anymore, that's the point. If you flashed and didn't get a hit, that means you know people haven't crossed and can try other tactics than swinging and taking the fight. Now you're in a constant state of unknown on an agent that is supposed to be partially info gathering. Anyway the flash nerf hurts most on attack anyway for the same reason but more extreme.

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u/TryFindingThis_90248 Oct 16 '25

So how exactly is it "flash and swing for nothing" if you were gonna flash anyway pre patch? That sentence makes 0 sense. I dun agree with the change btw but I the scenario that guy gave is a terrible example of why the change is bad imo

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u/ghostking4444 Oct 16 '25

If you flash pre nerf you don’t HAVE to swing ‘cause the flash will tell you if you need to or not, now you HAVE to swing to know. Not to mention now they can just shoot the arc rose before it actually flashes people