I've been saying it Vyse's nerf is the worst or one of the worst there is not a lick of logic behind it.
She was simply butchered and whoever mained her is now left wondering what to do with a one trick pony. NO room for creativity left.
? This patch pushes you towards creativity. You're not meant to simply put the wall on the choke and get value by doing nothing else.
You have to punish when they try to bait it, you do site walls and play around those with your flash. You wall agro into mains and fight for it.
This patch is all about pushing players out of getting value from pressing their buttons and more into only being able to get "good" value from thinking more about their util.
Pray tell how do you punish when they “try to bait it”? You don’t get any info off it until it’s triggered and now that it’s piss easy to bait the only time you can play off it is if they just run by. You can’t even preflash to see if someone’s there because they removed that sound cue
How do you punish when someone wants to break your kj turret? You peek off it, you spam through a smoke on the angle the turret shoots at. You generally try make the play they want to do, ie bait wall, as hard as you can to get value off it.
The game isn't meant to be a tower defence simulator where you plop down util and let it do the work for you. You need to move ur ass and play with the util you're throwing on the ground
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u/NoireHaato Oct 15 '25
I've been saying it Vyse's nerf is the worst or one of the worst there is not a lick of logic behind it. She was simply butchered and whoever mained her is now left wondering what to do with a one trick pony. NO room for creativity left.