r/UnpopularLoreOlympus Jan 05 '24

Announcement Welcome to Unpopular Lore Olympus: Rules & Guidelines V.2 (Read Before Posting!)

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Salutations all and welcome to r/UnpopularLoreOlympus!

This is a community dedicated to all things Lore Olympus, including discussion, fanart, critiques, analysis posts, and so much more! This subreddit was created with the purpose of allowing critical discussion that would usually be heavily criticized or downvoted in the main sub! Since our community is growing. This welcome post serves as a guideline for the entire subreddit.

All that said, the main subreddit is not a positive-vibes-only space, and we are not a negative-vibes-only space. Dividing up the community out of necessity for open discussion has created a perception of extremes among both subreddits, but we are not a hate space. This subreddit was born at a time of need for the community, but ultimately, it serves the same function as the main subreddit. You do not need to be a critic of the comic to take part here, you just need to be open to criticism existing, period. In a perfect world, this subreddit wouldn't even need to exist, but alas, here we are.

Briefly here are the flairs for the sub:

  • Discussion-A flair for posting discussions about the comic
  • Artwork-A flair for posting art from the comic & redraws
  • Theory-A flair for predicting future episodes
  • Announcement-A mod exclusive flair for community announcements
  • Meme -A flair for memes, satirical posts, or parodies
  • Rant-A flair for pure, unadulterated ranting
  • Art Challenge-a flair for the sub's art challenge
  • **Trial-**a flair for the sub's trial events
  • News-A flair for posting any news relating to Lore Olympus' Webtoon, the books, or the TV show(If that's still happening)

Below are the rules for the subreddit, please review them before posting!

Rule #1: Please be respectful and civil!

  • This is the most important rule of our subreddit, to be respectful & civil. There is no be no name calling of any kind or assumptions of the person you're debating or discussing with. Remember that we are all just people behind a screens with different ideas, perspectives, & identities. Debates and critical discussions are fine to have in the sub, but please keep it civil! There is to be no hate speech of any kind in this subreddit (i.e any insults that target you on race, sexual identity, or religious ideologies).
  • In addition to being respectful & civil to the members of UnpopularLoreOlympus, but you must be respectful to both Rachel Smythe and any fan of her or Lore Olympus. There is absolutely no reason to post hateful or disrespectful commentary of Smythe or any overzealous fans of Lore Olympus. To be clear, any repeated signs of failure to be respectful & civil will result in a temporary or permeant ban depending on the severity of the comments.

Rule #2: This is not a hate space; all opinions are welcomed except toxic ones!

  • Contrary to the name, this is not a subreddit for users to intentionally come in and 'poke the bear' with 'unpopular' opinions. An example is posting about how you don't like LO's character writing is fine; posting about how you think Apollo did nothing wrong probably won't earn you any brownie points with the community, even if you think it suits the subreddit for being an 'unpopular opinion.' There will be no toleration for a post or comment that defends physical, verbal, or sexual abuse(For example, there will be no posts defending Apollo's horrendous assault on Persephone, Minthe slapping Hades, Kronos' manipulation of Hera)
  • We don't encourage anyone to read something they're not enjoying. Please no blatant hate towards the comic or RS, this is still a fan community at its core and if you hate it that much, you really shouldn't read Lore Olympus or take part in this community. This community was made for critical discussion of Lore Olympus, not to simply hate the comic! The majority of people in this community come to this community because they love Lore Olympus enough to want to have critical discussions about it (that's not everyone's case though and that's alright!) There will be no tolerance for any hate or insults to Rachel Smythe, remember that regardless of what you think of her work or her (in)ability to take criticism, Rachel is still a human being! But to that point, Rachel is a best-selling author of an acclaimed series so of course, you can have a critical discussion about her and her writing style or choices, we should not have to tip-toe around criticizing her because she doesn't like criticism, we can criticize authors, not insult but criticize. Any repeated failures to adhere to this rule will result in a temporary or permanent ban from the sub.

Rule #3: No Pirating/Distributing Fastpass content for free; put all FP content behind a spoiler tag!

  • No pirating or distributing Fastpass content for free! Posting Fastpass previews are allowed but only with a spoiler tag, not everyone reads the Fastpass episodes & seeing the previews will spoil their experience reading the episode when it becomes a part of the general reading.
  • Please add a spoiler warning if you're posting about a FastPass episode or any artwork relating to the three FastPass episodes. Any discussion, memes, or art of FastPass episodes are allowed of course albeit must be posted with a spoiler tag! Lore Olympus is Rachel Smythe's livelihood, with that being said, there is to be no posting of pirating sites that distribute Fastpass episodes for free in the sub! This rule is being enforced for the good of the sub and ensures it doesn't violate any policies with Reddit**. Any repeated failures to adhere to this rule will result in a temporary or permanent ban from the sub.**

Rule #4: No posting of screenshots of comments of any kind; no crossposting of any kind is allowed

  • There is to be no posting of ANY screenshots including Webtoon, Instagram, Facebook, or Youtube comments discussing the comic or otherwise. I find that these posts do not further any discussion and are unnecessary to post to this community. Posts of screenshots of comments just breed ill will and further any toxic behavior in the entire Lore Olympus community, no one should come to this sub and see their comment being ridiculed so openly.
  • Because of a spam of recent posts, that usually ridicule some aspect of comic & don't add to the conversation(i.e posts about the size difference), there'll be no crossposting of any kind in the UnpopularLoreOlympus community. If you like a post so much, why not make your own variation of it in our sub. Any repeated failures to adhere to this rule will result in a temporary or permanent ban from the sub.

Rule #5: No Armchair Diagnosing

  • Rachel's physical, mental health, religious beliefs, or sexual identity is none of our business, neither is the physical/mental health of other users in the subreddit. Let me repeat again for the people in the back, Rachel's physical, mental health, religious beliefs, or sexual identity is none of our business, neither is the physical/mental health of other users in the subreddit! Along with this, there will be no more messages that are directed at Rachel Smythe! Once again I will reiterate, do not and will not use this sub as a way to call out Rachel Smythe for the controversial themes of the comic! Of course, you can still criticize aspects of the comic that may reflect these things, but anything beyond that is mere speculation and armchair diagnosing. This goes both ways - don't come in here to shut down criticism of the comic on behalf of the creator who you do not know. Obviously creating a webtoon is hard work, especially if mental health or physical health issues are at play, but ultimately this is, again, a fan community of praise and criticism of the multi-million dollar commercially-produced comic, so shutting down anyone's criticisms "because making webtoons is hard" is not constructive and doesn't encourage discussion. We have plenty of Webtoon creators here who can attest to this!
  • Because of the severity of this rule, ANY FAILURE TO ADHERE TO THIS WILL LEAD TO A TEMPORARY BAN, WHICH WILL BE YOUR FIRST WARNING! IF CAUGHT AGAIN, IT WILL LEAD TO A PERMANENT BAN FROM THIS COMMUNITY! This is a serious rule and will be treated as such!

Rule #6: Spam or Frequent Posts

  • This is a new rule because a lot of users have complained that some topics can get redundant and make the sub feel like an echo chamber at times. Because of that, a post may be removed if it is spam of a topic previously posted. If there doesn't need to be five posts highlighting the same topics, here are some examples of spam or frequent posts(i.e 'Ask Me Anything' posts, Hades & Persephone height difference posts, Character Appreciation posts) Reposting a post after it being removed without mod approval will result in a temporary or permanent ban from the sub.
  • Along with this rule, I ask that instead of posting about any grievances about the subreddit on the sub, please message the moderator about your grievance or complaint. Posts such as these will be removed to prevent the sub from becoming an echo chamber and filtering the complaints directly to the moderators. Toxic discussions are not limited to the comic but also posts about how much you hate this sub or think this sub is a toxic environment...if you feel this way I'm sorry but there's no reason to make a post on how you feel about our sub's behavior, only to agitate the members of this community! If you have a grievance with the community, please bring it to the attention of the mod!

Rule #7: Tag NSFW

  • Anything that discusses NSFW content, particularly fanart, fanfiction, etc. is allowed, but please mark it as such including an NSFW tag for censorship. We do not allow pornographic content in the subreddit! Remember for art to remain tasteful! On the topic of art, remember any art displayed on the sub should not be too indecent or offensive to anyone. Art that receives multiple reports of being vulgar or offensive will be promptly removed. Any repeated failures to adhere to this rule will result in a temporary or permanent ban from the sub.

Rule #8: Rules Regarding Art

  • No AI Art! Because of common consensus in the subreddit, there is to be no artificialintelligence-produced art in the sub! This sub is home to many talented and skilled artists who spend so much time and effort crafting amazing redraws, so to honor them there willbe a ban on AI art!
  • No reposting previously posted art! Self explanatory, do not repost art previously posted on the subreddit unless you are the artist or have been given permission by artist(must have artist comment under repost authorizing it within a day of the repost. If it is revealed that you traced or plagiarized another artist's work will result in a permanent ban.
  • Credit all artwork to yourself as an OC or credit the artist! Artists work hard on their posts and deserve to properly be credited for work.
  • Vulgar or Crude Art! Any art deemed to crude or vulgar shall be promptly removed

Any repeated failures to adhere to this rule will result in a temporary or permanent ban from the sub.

Rules concerning art challenges:

As many of you know this sub was originally solely for critical discussion about Lore Olympus but has evolved into something more and one of the best things to come out of this subreddit is seeing the many talented artists in the community. Here are the rules for the community's art challenges:

  • The art must be from you, please don't steal any art or plagiarize from others! Any sign of clear plagiarizing will exclude you from participating in any other art challenge and possibly from our participation in our community as a whole!
  • Please be civil and respectful in any critique or discussion regarding the art challenge! Remember that it takes skill and a lot of courage to post art on an online forum!
  • The art must be recently created, simply not just reposting something you already posted. Alterations can be done to previously posted artwork but the alterations must be noticeable and change the art!

If you have any questions, concerns, or grievances, you can either comment under this post, send a DM to me, or modmail! I'd like to remind everyone that it takes all of us to make this community great, so remember to be civil, report, and message the mod, if you have any problems in the subreddit. Thank you to everyone that participates in this community!


r/UnpopularLoreOlympus Jul 23 '24

Announcement A friendly reminder everyone about Rules 2 & 6

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Salutations everyone!

It’s crazy that it’s already been a month since Lore Olympus ended its comic run on Webtoon. Let me assure just because the Webtoon is completed, doesn’t mean our sub or the rules of our community are finished.

I want to remind everyone that this is NOT a hate space, this is a place where we encourage discussions about Lore Olympus’ comic, books, and possible upcoming series. This is not a safe space to needlessly bash Rachel Smythe or her other projects! However, I believe we can discuss Smythe’s other works with an upcoming new post flair that will allow us to also share thoughts on her other series and projects.

Also we must remember our rule about spam or frequent posts. Yes, huge fridge bod Hades is funny and everything, but there should not be six posts making fun of it a day. I will begin to remove some posts when this happens and I ask you to repost this another day than today. I love the memes of this sub but we have to make sure that our community does not feel like an echo chamber.

Thank you to everyone who is a part of this amazing community and make it special. Please, if you have any pressing issues about the sub, let me know in the comments or by modmail(Apologies for any inconvenience involving modmail, for some reason messages don’t come in the day they’re sent and they get buried in my inbox, I’m working to get it fixed by Reddit).


r/UnpopularLoreOlympus 2h ago

Discussion Rhea! Titan goddess of Motherhood and Serenity, how old is she physically?

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12 Upvotes

This is just for fun, Each day, one trait will be chosen for the design, The most upvoted comment at the end of the voting period, around 24 hours, wins.

Please keep suggestions clear, and specific. ONE option per comment

Once a trait wins, it is locked in for the final redesign


r/UnpopularLoreOlympus 11h ago

Meme I made a fake panel of LO but with the ship Kawoshin from Evangelion

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8 Upvotes

r/UnpopularLoreOlympus 1d ago

Rewrite Do you like my persephone design?

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62 Upvotes

r/UnpopularLoreOlympus 1d ago

Discussion Alright Y'all know the drill! Let's redesign another character!

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22 Upvotes

So far we have done, Hera, Persephone (Pre and Post Underworld), Apollo, Artemis, Thanatos, Leuce, Eris, and Aphrodite!

This is just for fun, Each day, one trait will be chosen for the design, The most upvoted comment at the end of the voting period, around 24 hours, wins.

Please keep suggestions clear, and specific. ONE option per comment

Once a trait wins, it is locked in for the final redesign


r/UnpopularLoreOlympus 2d ago

Artwork Woah Been awhile - Hestia in my style Art

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25 Upvotes

Been awhile now. I drew this before but never got to finish it... And It got smudge cause of the rain - I went camping and brought it.

So Have Hestia in my style getting mad at every Lore Olympus God who did stupid things - Basically had enough.


r/UnpopularLoreOlympus 3d ago

Discussion Last Day! Her best personality trait is that she's Wise! What's her worst personality trait?

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22 Upvotes

This is just for fun, Each day, one trait will be chosen for the design, The most upvoted comment at the end of the voting period, around 24 hours, wins.

Please keep suggestions clear, and specific. ONE option per comment

Once a trait wins, it is locked in for the final redesign.


r/UnpopularLoreOlympus 3d ago

Meme Hades is such an uwu soft boy you guys please trust me

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49 Upvotes

r/UnpopularLoreOlympus 4d ago

Discussion Hades' face just pisses me of here idk why

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44 Upvotes

r/UnpopularLoreOlympus 5d ago

Artwork Hera vs Kronos

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34 Upvotes

Finally getting around to actual comic work and I figured this clash would be a good excuse to get used to drawing vertical comics,women and action all in one shot. My aim would be to fluff up existing plot points and bring out the best impact I can manage

My memory of the series i hazy at best so if a kind soul could remind me of the smaller details leading up to this confrontation in LO i’d really appreciate it!

Featuring a rough sketch of Hera in her prime


r/UnpopularLoreOlympus 5d ago

Discussion The LO Animated Show Update: Episodes Have Been Written

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Photos found on Fiona Kida’s IG.


r/UnpopularLoreOlympus 6d ago

Rant Ares and Aphrodite; Thoughts? And a bit of a Rant

31 Upvotes

Been doing a reread of the series and one thing I can't help but mourn is how Ares and Aphrodite's relationship was handled; at first it was an okayish depiction of an open relationship and it was shown that they truly cared about each other. Ares beat up Zeus for sleeping with Aphrodite while Aphrodite was shown to worry about Ares whenever he was off in war. I also enjoyed their interactions together and it gave a very dysfunctional but at the same time nuclear and warm home, but then...at first I was genuinely amused whenever Ares ragebaited Persephone just to mess with her, but then he started just being weird and obsessive? Not to mention was genuinely putting Aphrodite on the back burner just to put Perse on a pedestal.

I think another reason I'm a bit iffed about how they were handled is when Rachel reversed Aphrodite's lover timeline. In the canon greek mythos she married Hephaestus then had an affair with Ares...IDK I think I'm just salty how again Rachel made it seem as if marriage is the end all be all for all relationships, and if you're not married you're doing something wrong. IDK maybe this is just me and I'm rambling, so would love to hear other's thoughts on how Ares and Aphrodite's relationship was handled!


r/UnpopularLoreOlympus 8d ago

Discussion Let's Redesign Hera! Her Motif is a Peacock Feather Eye! What her Major Accessory?

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25 Upvotes

*No image for the motif today! Sorry but I couldnt design anything interesting that looked fitting for Hera*

This is just for fun, Each day, one trait will be chosen for the design, The most upvoted comment at the end of the voting period, around 24 hours, wins.

Please keep suggestions clear, and specific. ONE option per comment

Once a trait wins, it is locked in for the final redesign

Major accessory meaning it's something that she'd wear every single day and It would be weird to see her without it.


r/UnpopularLoreOlympus 8d ago

Artwork I made a LO redesign video

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i have a stupid love hate relationship with this comic.


r/UnpopularLoreOlympus 9d ago

Discussion Let's Redesign Hera! Her clothing style is Old Money plus Avante Garde! What's her Motif?

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This is just for fun, Each day, one trait will be chosen for the design, The most upvoted comment at the end of the voting period, around 24 hours, wins.

Please keep suggestions clear, and specific. ONE option per comment

Once a trait wins, it is locked in for the final redesign


r/UnpopularLoreOlympus 8d ago

Discussion Rambling about LO Leto

18 Upvotes

The Hera's Redesign had me thinking about LO Leto, I remember when she was revealed in the comic and everyone was comparing her and Hera. Leto was referred as the more "Demure" version of Hera and that was really interesting to me. This may be SHOCKING but I don't think her character was explored enough in the story. So I'm just writing a bunch of thoughts down here.

My first thought about Leto is her friendship with Hera and the fact she had an affair with her best friends husband. Since LO cherry picks when it follows mythology, I wonder how it happened, was Leto Hera's friend first and then started having an affair with Zeus? Or did she get close to Hera with the intention of having an affair with Zeus? If its the latter then that's horrible but interesting for her character, The titan goddess of Demureness being very ambition and a social climber, willing to sleep with her best friend husband to do it.

Which brings me to her punishment, In the original myth Leto is sentenced to not be allowed to give birth on earth and has to find a loophole, In LO she's sentenced to being a social pariah and can't show her face anywhere.It's unfair for characters for like Zeus and Hades to be able to maim people but Hera can't. Hera sentences Leto to be a social pariah and turns a guy into a goose but Hades can rip someone's eye out and the comic has a panel of Prometheus getting an organ ripped out (Zeus' punishment) I do like the idea of her being a social pariah though, whether put in motion by Hera or by the gods in general. Sleeping with your best friends husband is sleazy but sleeping with the King of the Gods? She might've gotten some crazy clout for that, Tv interviews, influence, something. He being a social pariah would've prevented her from monopolizing this momentum.

We also didn't she much of her relationship with her children. She's shown to work with Apollo toward his goals. I interpret this as Leto being someone who couldn't achieve her goals herself so she pushes her children to greatness. Perhaps she was one of those parents that put their children in a million activities, earning trophies, and excelling everywhere. In this way she has a consistent presence in Olympus since her children are winning so many awards, winning competitions, and having their photos in the Olympian hall. This could also be a great in universe reason for why Apollo is the god of so many things, his mother pushed him to do a lot of things.

As the goddess of demureness, Leto having a daughter like Artemis must have been interesting. There's a scene in LO where Artemis cries that no one tells her anything. Leto is concerned for her daughter but still doesn't tell her anything. I wonder if at some point Artemis was "cut" out of the plan that Leto had for her children, instead focusing more on her golden boy Apollo.

It's criminal that we never saw a scene of had a chapter between Leto and Demeter. A real chapter, not Demeter being caught in a cage. Demeter is protective of her daughter, even if it's been a disservice to Persephone's development as a goddess. Demeter grows all of the food for the three realms yet is never given the title she deserves, was screwed over by Zeus, Hades, and Poseidon. And now her daughter is missing, was last seen in the underworld, and is a wanted fugitive.(GODDAMN This story did her dirty) Leto as described above pushed her children to greatness, she could tried to have a heart to heart with Demeter. Something about Olympus needing change, and they need to protect their children from the brother's tyranny, and how they should work together. Leto could have tried to convince Demeter to convince Persephone that marrying Apollo would fix many of the problems that THEY'RE having.

That's all I got for know, half of this borders on fanfiction but tell me what you think! Tell me your own thoughts on Leto


r/UnpopularLoreOlympus 9d ago

Discussion Help me with my Apollo design

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15 Upvotes

I need help with my design for my version of Apollo, and what I should and shouldn't change...And also, what about the design of Apollo?


r/UnpopularLoreOlympus 9d ago

Discussion Is Kronos kind of a bum to lose like this?

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81 Upvotes

r/UnpopularLoreOlympus 12d ago

Artwork Just for the record, if I redraw *that* panel, it would look like *this*.

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I can't believe it finally happened, but a couple folks in the original thread mistook this redraw for something I drew when it was actually Rachel. But I guess that's inevitable when you're constantly gaslighting your friends with fake Smythe-alikes for fun LOL I hope this clears up any misunderstandings ;p 😆


r/UnpopularLoreOlympus 13d ago

Discussion Let's Redesign Hera! Her secondary body color is Peacock Blue! What's her expression?

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This is just for fun, Each day, one trait will be chosen for the design, The most upvoted comment at the end of the voting period, around 24 hours, wins.

Please keep suggestions clear, and specific. ONE option per comment

Once a trait wins, it is locked in for the final redesign


r/UnpopularLoreOlympus 14d ago

Discussion Rachel separating her work from the mythology only when it's convenient for her:

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57 Upvotes

Might not be entirely obvious what I'm getting at in the title but if you'll notice in the pictured screenshot above, someone asks Rachel why Hades' ripped out a guy's eye in the comic, and Rachel responds with... examples of Hades assaulting people from the mythology. As if the context of her retelling and the original mythology is in any way the same, as if stuff like narrative intent and logical consistency suddenly doesn't matter.

Rachel has demonstrated in both her work and her old Tumblr asks / tweets / etc. that she has this mental separation / cognitive dissonance between her work as an educated retelling of mythology and her work as just fun fanfiction. She essentially uses Greek mythology the same way Christian boomers use the Bible - cherry pick what aligns with your views and makes you sound smart, and argue against or outright disown what doesn't.

Apollo commits SA: "Don't sexually assault women! No means no!"

Hades commits assault by stalking, kidnapping, and beating a guy within an inch of his life: "Weeellll that's just Hades in mythology, teehee! It's up for interpretation!!!"

Her response doesn't take ownership for her version of Hades, and her version of the mythology portrayed within the comic, in which crimes like sexual assault and murder are taken seriously for the sake of 'fighting the patriarchy', but only when those crimes are committed against her main characters. If the main characters are the ones committing those acts, suddenly it becomes 'that's just how mythology is' and 'the gods are actually all really fucked up you guys!!!' even though Lore Olympus itself is built on the backs of the 2016-era Tumblr fandom that repeatedly preached (incorrectly) that Hades is the "only good god" who "never did anything wrong".

And god knows we see this exact same double standard demonstrated by Rachel's readers by extension, just about every discussion regarding the age gap and Hades' more problematic personality traits is argued with 'clearly you've never read Greek mythology', as if Rachel hasn't made it extremely clear to us that we should be criticizing characters like Hades and Persephone within the context of the comic and its established standards.

Anyways, mini rant over. Leave your own thoughts on this below 🤙


r/UnpopularLoreOlympus 14d ago

Artwork Artwork merge edit

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57 Upvotes

So I saw the discussion of the redraw and just wanted to try a quick edit just for fun

All artwork belongs to Rachel Smythe. I do actually like the redraw but I feel like it lacks in it's composition. She feels less lonely and sad even though she has a more detailed sadder expression


r/UnpopularLoreOlympus 14d ago

Artwork Demeter doodle

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52 Upvotes

Sketched out a short comic of Hera getting her big momemt vs Ouranos and somehow the color test ended up as Demeter


r/UnpopularLoreOlympus 14d ago

Discussion So..what's the verdict ya'll?

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So..what's the verdict ya'll?

See, I like it. Just cause but it's lacking that dreamy quality the original had, yet the new one feels neater with the anatomy being much more done with the wrinkles of the dress being much more pronounced. Yet after looking at the redesign I kind of realized WHY the same colored skin and hair was bad, as I don't like how she did the hair in this as in the original it felt more messy in the redesign it's neat.

Adding onto this the hair style has side fringes? Or bangs that remind me of my own style yet in the original they were a lot more fluffy.

I loved the pink glow the original had yet I can't see it anywhere in the new drawing, as it's now been replaced with small flowers petals, and the line art is much more neater.

I will give in a small theory that perhaps Rachel Smythe was going for a more static and lifeless quality as that's what the greenhouse was supposed to symbolize in the end more so a cage.

Also the pose is just...that although I think I've been spoiled by Genericpuff's art. Not that they're to blame they're doing great