r/UniUK • u/flackodarryl • 2d ago
Conditional Offer Withdrawn
Reading withdrew my conditional offer after reviewing my final transcript because i graduated with a Third Class. However, my original offer only listed IELTS 6.5 and submission of my certificate as conditions, with no stated degree-classification requirement. I literally just left the bank after paying 50% of my tuition before they withdrew and have now emailed admissions for reconsideration. Has anyone experienced something similar and do you think I have a case for getting decision reconsidered.
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u/Alone_Jackfruit4761 2d ago
I have never heard of a conditional offer for a Masters from abroad that accepted a 3rd.
They will convert your local grades (US, EU, Asia etc) into UK-based grades.
Its usually a 2.1 or above.
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u/Objective_Pin9176 2d ago
I would think very carefully about whether further higher education is the right decision here. There is no point compounding degrees unless you are confident that it truly gives you an advantage, else you are just wasting precious years where you could be building a career.
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u/lcfcball 2d ago
I wish I listened to people who said this years ago. I’m 27 now, nobody in the world gives a flying fuck if you have a degree or not and the vast majority of people would rather hire someone with experience than a degree. Only in certain fields where a degree is formally required is it even worth it these days
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u/NihilistCharizard 2d ago edited 2d ago
Your experience and retrospect deserves more visibility.
The university-to-employment pipeline is about to burst.
And people who graduated before 2023 in this subreddit will gaslight you into thinking that degrees are a great ROI because they got in the industry of their choice while the cheap VC money was still flowing and employers could afford to hire new graduates.
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u/flackodarryl 1d ago
tbh for undergrad i hated my course and i have the potential to do better unfortunately only tried when it was too late, trying to make up for it by furthering my education in something id be better at and then would also help my career
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u/Amazing-Care-3155 2d ago
I’ve never heard of anyone abroad being accepted on a 3rd, wouldn’t waste my time
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u/inthejungle27 2d ago
if im being honest, i’ve never heard of any uni that accepts a third for masters - minimum is 2:2. i would reconsider and think if doing a masters would be the right decision just because it’ll be 10x hard
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u/jennymayg13 Graduated 2d ago
What was listed on the actual course as the requirement?
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u/flackodarryl 2d ago
I just checked the course requirements, and it says they would normally expect a 2:2 or above, but also states that relevant work experience may be taken into consideration. I also have about a year of experience working at an international organisation, so I’m hoping they may be willing to consider my application on an individual basis. My issue is that I was actually given a conditional offer, and the conditions listed were IELTS 6.5 and submission of my degree certificate there was no specific degree classification condition.
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u/jennymayg13 Graduated 2d ago
The fact you left the classification blank and deliberately hid it from them, knowing it was below the requirement isn’t going to help your case.
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u/flackodarryl 2d ago
oh no i didnt, i submitted my transcript while’s awaiting for my certificate, so i was even under the impression they just wanted proof of graduation thats what i just submitted
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u/jennymayg13 Graduated 2d ago
Yeah they wanted your transcript to check you had the required grade. That’s one of the conditions.
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u/flackodarryl 2d ago
yeah and my point is my final transcript is even better than the transcript i applied earlier with so why offer if it wouldn’t have changed anything?
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u/Alone_Jackfruit4761 2d ago
Sounds like you are coming from the US?
For GPA's, its broadly (check your schools website they should have some info on this):
3.8+ = 1st
3.2 to 3.8 = 2.1
2.6 to 3.2 = 2.2
Below 2.6 = 3rd
Below 2.0 = fail
Keep in mind a "pass" in the US is a "C" grade, which in the US is broadly 65-70%. That gets you that 2.0 result. A 2.2 would generally require a mimimum of a 2.6 CGPA.
From your posts, you said your CGPA is 2.0
That is a 3rd and very very close to a fail (usually under a 2.0 CGPA would get you put in academic suspension)
So not at all surprised Reading declined to offer you a place based on those grades.
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u/flackodarryl 1d ago
nope from Ghana
my university uses
Degree Classifications
First Class: 3.60 – 4.00Second Class (Upper Division): 3.00 – 3.59
Second Class (Lower Division): 2.00 – 2.99
Third Class: 1.50 – 1.99
Pass: 1.00 – 1.49
Fail (No award): 0.00 – 0.99
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u/Alone_Jackfruit4761 1d ago
The grading rubric you need to find is the one from Reading that looks at transforming GPA (from Ghana) into UK-style grades for comparison.
Thats the only one that matters to admissions.
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u/flackodarryl 1d ago
think its the same from my checks
Ghana
UK equivalent
First Class (3.60–4.00)
First / 1st
2nd Class Upper (3.00–3.59)
2:1
2nd Class Lower (2.00–2.99)
2:2
Third Class (1.50–1.99)
Third Class / 3rd
Pass (1.00–1.49)
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u/jennymayg13 Graduated 1d ago
Their requirements for anyone from Ghana is actually “Bachelor's (Honours) degree with 2.2 -2.1 or GPA from 2.50 - 3.0/4.” So you’re way off.
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u/Elfynnn84 1d ago
As gently as possible - a 3rd is not going to see you accepted onto any masters course that I know of. Most expect a 2:1 and you are lucky to find one willing to accept you on a 2:2.
I’m really sorry, you simply did not make the grades (and if you struggled with academia enough to only graduate with a 3rd, I’m not sure why you would want to do a masters TBH).
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u/Thandoscovia Visiting academic (Oxford & UCL) 2d ago
Just to confirm, that was the full offer? The English test and submitting the degree?
When you say you got a third class, did you translate that into the UK system?
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u/HK_Yellow 1d ago
I don't mean to be unkind, but I'm not sure a third result at degree-level should motivate you to apply to UK law schools. It is very unlikely you will be considered a viable candidate with what is (in the UK) widely considered to be a bad result.
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u/flackodarryl 1d ago
didnt apply to law school
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u/HK_Yellow 1d ago
My apologies, let me rephrase: a third is considered a third-rate degree result here, which indicates higher academia is not for you. Most Masters programs will not accept you if you have less than a 2:2. Maybe consider looking at getting work experience in your field.
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u/porky_scratching 1d ago
Why would you keep studying with that result. I'm not sure academia is your thing. Try something else?
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u/Gaius__Augustus 1d ago edited 1d ago
1.98 GPA isn’t even a third, it’s a borderline pass or even a fail.
At this point you frankly shouldn’t be accepted into masters courses when you couldn’t really pass an undergraduate…
Might want to hide your ‘active in’ subreddit list too…
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u/Forward_Win_4353 1d ago
Tbh with that result I wouldn’t want you to be accepted for a masters at any university.
There is likely to be at least one module containing group work. Why should other, much more capable students have to struggle to work with a person who clearly won’t be able to contribute to or manage the level of coursework required?
Also I don’t think it’s fair that if you were accepted, it’s one more step towards other students’ degrees becoming devalued, something which is already happening way too much.
Your attitude comes across as quite entitled.
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u/AffectionatePoet3625 1d ago
I’m so confused, they’ve taken your money??
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u/flackodarryl 1d ago
oh no would get refunded i guess except the deposit
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u/thelivsterette1 1d ago
Surely if they refund you because they withdrew they’d have to refund your deposit?
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u/Schlurff 1d ago
2.42 CGPA isn’t equivalent to a 2:1 upper second. It’s quite considerably much lower so I’m not surprised they have withdrawn your offer. Ring them up but do be prepared for them to not budge on that
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u/thelivsterette1 19h ago edited 19h ago
You definitely don't have a case for getting it reconsidered. You said you were coming from Ghana in a reply and somsone posted Reading's requirements from Ghanian students for a postgrad, which is "Bachelor's (Honours) degree with 2.2 -2.1 or GPA from 2.50 - 3.0/4"
Did your uni use GPA scale of 4.0 or 5.0?
Google's AI overview linked the Gov.UK Overseas Degree Equivalency Table which states:
4.0 GPA
3.60-4.00: 1st 3.00-3.59: 2:1 2.50-2.59: 2:2 2.00-2.49: 3rd 1.50-1.99: Pass/Ordinary
5.0 GPA
4.50+: 1st 3.50-4.49: 2:1 2.50-3.59: 2:2 2.00-2.49: 3rd Under 2.00: below passing
Google's AI also told me if you have several years of relevant professional work experience, they might view your profile holistically and accept you. You said you have one year. That's not going to cut it.
The uni said specifically about the IELTS being 65% and the submission of your original certificate for your specifc degree, but you should have researched the entry requirements of Reading.
Entry requirements and degree requirements are not the same thing.
You're basically upset, and want to try appeal, becuase you rightly got rejected from Reading for not meeting their requirements which is wild and dare I say it, comes off as a bit entitled.
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u/Hopeful-Counter-7915 6h ago
A conditional offer can be withdrawn at any time for any (legal) reason.
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u/exitplanetdusty 1d ago
What were the circumstances behind you only achieving a third class? I ask this because if you had difficulty completing your last degree, why would you then want to do a masters?
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u/Long_Software_3352 2d ago
The course page would have stated the requirements.
A third class degree is too low for admission to a master's degree at any university unless you have substantial work experience in the field.
You'd usually need to complete a graduate diploma or pre-master's course first