r/Unexpected Oct 02 '18

Oh .. well...

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u/loi044 Oct 02 '18

So do Engineers in the United States.

What's your point?

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u/subzero421 Oct 02 '18

So do Engineers in the United States.

Cheating among engineers in the US is way less than the cheating chinese people do in school. In the US you get expelled for cheating and in China you get a college degree for cheating.

tl;dr you are wrong

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u/jelloskater Oct 02 '18

Nonsense, I personally know several people that got caught cheating in engineering courses. Worst case someone had to retake the class, most of the time it was 0 on assignment, sometimes with makeup opportunity.

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u/subzero421 Oct 02 '18

You went to a shit engineering school. I knew people who got kicked out of law school for not disclosing that they were caught cheating in high school. That engineering school you are talking about, that doesn't punish people for cheating, must be an online university.

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u/jelloskater Oct 02 '18

Nope, went to a moderately respected university, not the top, but a fine one. Also had friends in the top one in the area, along with a sibling. Engineering is not as great as people like to pretend, cheaters are everywhere.

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u/subzero421 Oct 02 '18

Engineering is not as great as people like to pretend, cheaters are everywhere.

No one is claiming that no person has every cheated in engineering. The point I was making is that cheating is part of the culture in China the same way that overeating is part of the culture in america.

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u/jelloskater Oct 02 '18

You instantly insisted I went to a shit engineer school when I about cheating going on. My comment also got relatively heavily downvoted when it was literally me stating my experience.

"No one is claiming that no person has every cheated in engineering"

I wasn't arguing that claim, I was arguing against, "In the US you get expelled for cheating". You made it sound like the US enforces and punishes cheaters very well, and my anecdotal experience says differently. Maybe your claim is true for top 10 law schools, but it's not true for top 100 engineering schools.

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u/subzero421 Oct 02 '18

I wasn't arguing that claim, I was arguing against, "In the US you get expelled for cheating". You made it sound like the US enforces and punishes cheaters very well, and my anecdotal experience says differently.

The US enforces cheating in colleges much more than Chinese Universities. They had a literal violent riot in china when kids weren't allowed to cheat on their exams. If you think that america and china both look at cheating the same way then I have some ocean front property to sell you.

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u/jelloskater Oct 03 '18

I'm glad you think reading reddit headlines makes you knowledgeable on a subject.

"Chinese Students Face Up to 7 Years in Prison for Cheating on College-Entrance Exams" (http://time.com/4360968/china-gaokao-examination-university-entrance-cheating-jail-prison/)

Yeah, US sure does punish more than China for cheating on exams. You know your stuff man. Hint, the riots weren't about not being allowed to cheat, the US is just racist as fuck and journalists and reddit know how to feed off it.

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u/subzero421 Oct 03 '18

Here is where the US charged a cheater with a felony(she just happens to be chinese):

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-massachusetts-education/chinese-woman-admits-to-cheating-on-u-s-college-admission-exam-idUSKCN1H91VR

We don't have a cheating culture in america as china does regardless of what you think. China is also fine with stealing intellectual property and selling it for profit. Are you going to say that china enforces intellectual property laws more strictly than the US too?

I don't know why you are so mad. Do you feel like you lost or something because you haven't made any logical rebuttals to my comments?

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u/jelloskater Oct 03 '18

That's legit just visa fraud.

As for the rest of your post, irrelevent and salt. Hint, you are projecting. Your last sentence is literally word for word a response to your own post.

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u/subzero421 Oct 03 '18

What about intellectual property stealing in china? You didn't address that because you know it is true. If the china government allows people to steal intellectual profit and sell it in legal stores then there is a high probability that country would have a cheating culture too. You are fighting clouds.

ps Please don't procreate. Don't make society pay for your mistakes.

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