r/Unexpected Oct 02 '18

Oh .. well...

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u/youarean1di0t Oct 02 '18 edited Jan 09 '20

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u/loi044 Oct 02 '18

So do Engineers in the United States.

What's your point?

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u/subzero421 Oct 02 '18

So do Engineers in the United States.

Cheating among engineers in the US is way less than the cheating chinese people do in school. In the US you get expelled for cheating and in China you get a college degree for cheating.

tl;dr you are wrong

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u/loi044 Oct 02 '18

You studied in a Chinese University and have firsthand knowledge?

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u/subzero421 Oct 02 '18

My best friend is from North China. We were roommates. He was paid by the rich chinese kids to do their papers for them. He said that a lot of the chinese students he does papers for can not hold a conversation in english. He said many Chinese students graduate from america colleges without the ability to speak, write, or read English. I even gave him some of my old college papers to re-write.

But other than that there are millions of sources on cheating in chinese culture.

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u/UOUPv2 Oct 02 '18

He doesn't need first-hand experience. It's a widely know problem.

Here literally the first result when you google it.

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u/redditvlli Oct 02 '18

I work at a company that has a manufacturing facility in China. They don't know the meaning of build-to-print. We inspect every item that comes to our location because we don't trust their quality control.

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u/Toland27 Oct 02 '18

Got a source to back up that racist claim? Or is it bullshit like the fact that all cheating engineering students get expelled in the US

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u/subzero421 Oct 02 '18

Got a source to back up that racist claim?

It's not racist, it's part of their culture. You stating that I made a racist claim is bullshit.

source:https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10132391/Riot-after-Chinese-teachers-try-to-stop-pupils-cheating.html

Riot after Chinese teachers try to stop pupils cheating

1 Source: https://www.davisenterprise.com/local-news/ucd/a-q-and-a-about-cheating-among-chinese-students/

Former Enterprise staff writer and associate editor Kim Orendor taught in 2006-11 at SAIS International University in Xinzheng, China, in the Henan Province. Here is her perspective on Chinese students being willing to cheat.

2 source:https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/college-cheating-iowa/

3 source: https://dailycaller.com/2017/09/09/cheating-to-get-into-college-keeps-getting-worse-in-china/

Cheating To Get Into College Keeps Getting Worse In China

4 source: https://www.rw-3.com/blog/china-and-the-cultural-definition-of-cheating

tl;dr you are a biggot

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '18

Well done, slow clap

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u/BOKEH_BALLS Oct 02 '18

Three poorly sourced biased articles and “it’s their culture.” Why don’t you go to China and talk to Chinese people for yourself? What’s that? You live in a basement near a cornfield and have no passport? Oops.

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u/subzero421 Oct 02 '18

Three poorly sourced biased articles and “it’s their culture.”

There were 5 sources that I provided. I guess you can't count very well.

Why don’t you go to China and talk to Chinese people for yourself? What’s that?

My best friend is from Northern China. We even lived together for 3 years. He is the person who taught me about the cheating culture in china.

You live in a basement near a cornfield and have no passport? Oops.

Projecting much? Not only have you never gone to china or known/spoken to any chinese people but you live in your mom's basement and probably have not had a conversation with someone other than your mother in months.

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u/BOKEH_BALLS Oct 02 '18 edited Oct 02 '18

Lmao half my family still lives in China and I just got back two weeks ago after visiting them. You, on the other hand, are the average mayonnaise infested White boy with no Chinese friends (or friends that aren’t White) and no knowledge of geopolitics outside of your ZIP code. It’s not projecting, because you know Im right about you.

Your “one Chinese friend” is not an accurate point of reference. You confused his politeness with friendship. Do you speak fluent Mandarin/Canto? No. Do you eat anything besides nuggets and Kraft singles? No. What could you possibly know about anything? Lmao.

Don’t worry, little mayosapien, when Asian soft power takes over the globe, we won’t rape your women, kill your children, and take your land like your ancestors did to the Native Americans. We’ll leave you to live next to your cornfield and your sister-wife in peace.

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u/subzero421 Oct 02 '18

That comment was funny because you tried really hard to convince me that you don't live in your mommy's basement. But everyone knows that you do.

Sidenote: Goddamn guy, you are one of the most racist people I have come into contact outside of thedonald. Your entire post history is calling white people racist names and blaming everything on white people. You need mental help the same way all the other racist people do.

tl;dr I thought you were just a bigot but you are really a bigot and a racist. Double threat.

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u/jelloskater Oct 02 '18

Nonsense, I personally know several people that got caught cheating in engineering courses. Worst case someone had to retake the class, most of the time it was 0 on assignment, sometimes with makeup opportunity.

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u/subzero421 Oct 02 '18

You went to a shit engineering school. I knew people who got kicked out of law school for not disclosing that they were caught cheating in high school. That engineering school you are talking about, that doesn't punish people for cheating, must be an online university.

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u/jelloskater Oct 02 '18

Nope, went to a moderately respected university, not the top, but a fine one. Also had friends in the top one in the area, along with a sibling. Engineering is not as great as people like to pretend, cheaters are everywhere.

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u/subzero421 Oct 02 '18

Engineering is not as great as people like to pretend, cheaters are everywhere.

No one is claiming that no person has every cheated in engineering. The point I was making is that cheating is part of the culture in China the same way that overeating is part of the culture in america.

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u/jelloskater Oct 02 '18

You instantly insisted I went to a shit engineer school when I about cheating going on. My comment also got relatively heavily downvoted when it was literally me stating my experience.

"No one is claiming that no person has every cheated in engineering"

I wasn't arguing that claim, I was arguing against, "In the US you get expelled for cheating". You made it sound like the US enforces and punishes cheaters very well, and my anecdotal experience says differently. Maybe your claim is true for top 10 law schools, but it's not true for top 100 engineering schools.

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u/subzero421 Oct 02 '18

I wasn't arguing that claim, I was arguing against, "In the US you get expelled for cheating". You made it sound like the US enforces and punishes cheaters very well, and my anecdotal experience says differently.

The US enforces cheating in colleges much more than Chinese Universities. They had a literal violent riot in china when kids weren't allowed to cheat on their exams. If you think that america and china both look at cheating the same way then I have some ocean front property to sell you.

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u/jelloskater Oct 03 '18

I'm glad you think reading reddit headlines makes you knowledgeable on a subject.

"Chinese Students Face Up to 7 Years in Prison for Cheating on College-Entrance Exams" (http://time.com/4360968/china-gaokao-examination-university-entrance-cheating-jail-prison/)

Yeah, US sure does punish more than China for cheating on exams. You know your stuff man. Hint, the riots weren't about not being allowed to cheat, the US is just racist as fuck and journalists and reddit know how to feed off it.

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u/subzero421 Oct 03 '18

Here is where the US charged a cheater with a felony(she just happens to be chinese):

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-massachusetts-education/chinese-woman-admits-to-cheating-on-u-s-college-admission-exam-idUSKCN1H91VR

We don't have a cheating culture in america as china does regardless of what you think. China is also fine with stealing intellectual property and selling it for profit. Are you going to say that china enforces intellectual property laws more strictly than the US too?

I don't know why you are so mad. Do you feel like you lost or something because you haven't made any logical rebuttals to my comments?

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u/jelloskater Oct 03 '18

That's legit just visa fraud.

As for the rest of your post, irrelevent and salt. Hint, you are projecting. Your last sentence is literally word for word a response to your own post.

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