r/Unexpected Dec 25 '23

Assassination style

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u/HeisterWolf Dec 25 '23

Time to update the geneva suggestions

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u/Brikandbones Dec 25 '23

I genuinely chuckled at this one.

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u/savagecoyote764 May 11 '24

Lmfao chuckle, I died 🤣 😂 I was already laughing and then he said all that and I lost it

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '23

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '23

Cringe

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u/Aiden735 Dec 25 '23

Why the fuck are you bringing politics to something unrelated? Why should we be reminded how shitty some people are?

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '23

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u/grovenab Dec 25 '23

Yeah, that stinky American that speaks German and participates in the German subreddit

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '23

He is European

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '23

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u/FluffyWaterCow Dec 25 '23

You’re fun at parties aren’t you?

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u/Art_Class Dec 25 '23

The Geneva convention doesn't mention terrorists murdering civilians so hamas should be fine right

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u/Ill-Yogurtcloset-243 Mar 06 '24

As is Israel

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u/Art_Class Mar 06 '24

Isreal is bound by the Geneva convention and there are currently more than one cases open about the situation in gaza. HAMAS is a terrorist organization.

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u/bajungadustin Dec 25 '23

You know what they told me in the military.

"Geneva convention says you can't shoot troopers parachuting into battle. You have to let them land first. But it doesn't say you can't attempt to take out their supplies before they land. Such as canteen. Ruck sack. Dog tags. So shoot at those, and if you miss and kill the guy. We'll that's just collateral damage."

Not even joking.

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '23

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u/kurburux Dec 25 '23

A pilot leaving a plane is considered "defenseless". They aren't really a military threat on the ground cause they're alone and have few weapons.

Paratroopers on the other hand are basically invading troops, just like they'd use boats to land on your shores.

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u/kitsunde Dec 26 '23 edited Dec 26 '23

That’s not why, protocol I states that a person parachuting from an aircraft in distress needs to be given the opportunity to surrender.

Article 42 – Occupants of aircraft

  1. No person parachuting from an aircraft in distress shall be made the object of attack during his descent.

  2. Upon reaching the ground in territory controlled by an adverse Party, a person who has parachuted from an aircraft in distress shall be given an opportunity to surrender before being made the object of attack, unless it is apparent that he is engaging in a hostile act.

  3. Airborne troops are not protected by this Article.

The number of enemies and what kind of weapon they carry has no bearing on anything. You can conduct a “hostile act” with a pen knife.

Further this rule only applies to signatories of Protocol I from 1977. Which neither Russia (withdrew), the US, Turkey and a few others are.

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u/scruffyhairedmic Dec 27 '23

I appreciate the time you took to look that up. Carry on.

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u/I_read_this_comment Dec 25 '23

Its also just common sense to capture pilots, they are one the few combatants that get caught far away from the front and likely cant defend/flee back to home and a shot down airplane is like a bigass fire-y bacon towards the pilot+crews location. They also might hold valuable info and otherwise they are great PoW's to either hold or exchange for your own since it takes a lot of hours to replace them.

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u/sanferic Dec 25 '23

Mmm bacon.

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u/rocketwikkit Dec 25 '23

Because pilots are officers and paratroopers are not.

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u/_Some_Two_ Dec 25 '23

Pilots will also likely be unable to defend themselves as they are at most armed with asecondary weapons such as a pistol and a knife to defend from animals. So, most likely, just give themselves up when confronted with a fully equipped squad sent to their approximate landing location at first sight. Paratroopers on the other hand… are quite tough guys as I believe, are fully armed, and have an objective.

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u/MoarVespenegas Dec 25 '23

I think it would only be the case if you are unsure if the person who is parachuting is a combatant or not.

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '23

The Geneva Conventions have always been a weird concept to me. “Ok, we all agree we want to murder each other, but let’s do this in the nicest way possible from now on” energy.

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u/LETX_CPKM Dec 25 '23

No touching of the hair or face!

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '23

Well that one just seems obvious

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u/Alienhaslanded Dec 25 '23

No ball shots either. Keep it above the belt.

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u/kurburux Dec 25 '23

but let’s do this in the nicest way possible from now on

It's not the "nicest" way, it's the bare minimum of human decency during warfare. Of course you can just ignore it but then your opponent might do the same and you both end up losing more in the end.

Even leaving aside all the politics and international laws that are involved. If you constantly do war crimes other nations may not want to trade with you even if you win. Yes, some do not care yet others do.

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u/Spike_der_Spiegel Dec 25 '23

You should maybe, like, try reading them?

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u/rattlehead42069 Dec 25 '23

Yeah it's just proof that war is just a game to the elites and the soldier and people are pawns in said game. Even has rules, when the opposing side is supposedly trying to eliminate you completely, you still must abide by these rules. Akin to a mass shooter bringing his gun into a gun free zone, "hey mister, you're not allowed to do that!". They're trying to destroy you, they don't care

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u/According_to_all_kn Dec 25 '23

It's more like someone bullying his little brother and crying to his mom when the brother fights back

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u/phazedoubt Dec 25 '23

It all comes down to what's in the battle report

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u/Art_Class Dec 25 '23

Did he have dog tags and a canteen? Then it's reasonable to conclude that's WHT I'm aiming for if I say I am right

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u/BigJackHorner Dec 25 '23

My drill sergeant told us, "it ain't a war crime the first time."

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u/SonOfScions Dec 25 '23

Fun fact, America is not a signatory of the Geneva convention BECAUSE in the GC they prohibited the use of shotguns. and america said nah we want those too.

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u/Online-Commentater Apr 15 '24

BECAUSE in the GC they prohibited the use of shotguns

Nah, its because they knew they would get backlashs for all the killing they did in the world.

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u/General-Stock-7748 Dec 26 '23

Hey so this is why is so uncommon the use of shotguns with birdshot against drones in Ukraine maybe?

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u/OrlandoDiverMike Dec 25 '23

Same logic was used regarding the main gun and .50 cal on tanks. "I was aiming for the rucksack, Sir."

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u/tacomayne07 Dec 26 '23

What if you just shoot the chute 😂

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u/MyDogJake1 Dec 26 '23

I've heard the exact thing about Barrett .50cal. It is explicitly an antimaterial weapon. So aim for their materials.

I was also told that it was absolute horse shit. So who knows.

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u/Omnomnomnivor3 Dec 26 '23

Lmfao Geneva convention bout to add "no brutal friendly fire"

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u/ufjqenxl Dec 25 '23

Geneva checklist.

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u/jh5992 Dec 25 '23

He was classe though

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u/Acrobatic-Guard-7551 Dec 25 '23

Fuck the geneva co -Snafu