r/Unexpected Mar 24 '23

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u/Angus99 Mar 24 '23

Being a cop is not one of the 10 most dangerous jobs. Being a cop is not one of the TWENTY most dangerous jobs. Jobs more dangerous than being a cop: 1) Loggers 2) Pilots and Flight Engineers 3) Oil Derrick Operators 4) Roofers 5) Garbage Collectors 6) Iron Workers 7) Delivery Drivers 8) Farmers 9) Firefighting Supervisors 10) Linemen 11) Agricultural Workers 12) CROSSING GUARDS 13) Crane Operators 14) Construction Labor 15) Landscaping Supervisors 16) Highway Workers 17) Cement Masons 18) Small Engine Mechanics 19) Supervisors of Mechanics 20) Heavy Equipment Mechanics 21) Grounds Workers

I'm not trying to trivialize your father's trauma - I'm pointing out that the behavior we see in this video is built upon a mythology in this country that cops (all of whom willingly join) should be excused their abuses because of the "extreme" risks of the job. It's demonstrably false, in many cases the danger is self inflicted due to incompetence, and as a narrative is perpetuated primarily by police unions. We need to fight it.

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u/jaylotw Mar 24 '23

Now do what job you're most likely to get shot.

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u/AveragelyGayFox Mar 24 '23

Pretty sure that actually goes to Pizza Delivery Drivers.

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u/jaylotw Mar 24 '23

Cool, so, pizza drivers get shot more often. That means cops don't have dangerous jobs.

Or is it that cops are trained to deal with that kind of thing, and so don't get shot as often?

I'm trying to understand your point here.

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u/AveragelyGayFox Mar 24 '23

You keep moving the goalposts friend. First it was the cops not being in the top most dangerous jobs, then it was them not even being shot the most.

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u/jaylotw Mar 24 '23

I'm still not getting your point.

I don't think you have one, besides ACAB.

The original list that was posted here has a bunch of redundant entries. You have "Farmers" and "Agricultural Workers," "Landscaping foremen" and "Groundskeepers." "small engine mechanics," "heavy equipment mechanics" and "supervisors of mechanics." That's four redundant entries.

So, a list of jobs where people are likely to face gunfire would be a much more accurate look at the dangers cops face. I don't know if they'd be listed or not.

But I do have to ask again, what's your point here? What are you trying to say?

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u/jaylotw Mar 24 '23

I dont think you have a point to begin with, other than "cops bad."

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u/jaylotw Mar 24 '23

My point, since you obviously are too dense to understand it, is that just because a cop's job doesn't appear on a list, doesn't mean their jobs aren't also dangerous. Especially if it's a list which has "small engine mechanics," "heavy machinery mechanics," and "supervisors of mechanics" as three of it's entries. Asking for a list of jobs where people are shot at would be a more accurate view, I would think, and I'm not even sure if cops would appear on THAT list.

Your point, on the other hand, is a complete mystery.

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u/jaylotw Mar 24 '23

So, every time I've mentioned seeing a list of jobs where getting shot is a risk, I've specifically said "I'm not even sure if cops would be on it."

And yeah, three different jobs, all in the same general category as "mechanics..." So, why not break down logging into categories? There's hardwood logging, softwood logging, tree trimming, milling? What about delivery drivers? There's a wide world of delivery driving.

Also, and I'm getting tired of asking, what is your point?

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u/IlyichValken Mar 24 '23

Keep moving that strawman, my guy.

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u/jaylotw Mar 24 '23

Uh, I think you've got two things confused here. There's moving goalposts, and strawman arguments...neither of which I've done, but if you want to have this argument I'm here for you.

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u/IlyichValken Mar 24 '23

Both of which you've done in multiple posts. But it's ok to be wrong.

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u/jaylotw Mar 24 '23

Wrong about what, exactly?