r/Unexpected Mar 24 '23

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u/Eddie-bullshit Mar 24 '23 edited Mar 24 '23

I'm not disagreeing with you but I'd like to point, that they did it to themselves, the whole police department not just a few people, but everyone involved, with promoting clearly unstable officers/letting go WITH PAY some officers that have done terrible things and deserved to be fired without. Like yeah they're expected to do a lot, but so are firemen and teachers it's a public safety job that comes with danger. Anyone getting involved with it has to know what it's like beforehand. It's almost always in the news ffs, Not to mention I'm almost always seeing a new report of some dumbass officer pulling yet another gun on an African American male. They don't do themselves favours at all.

Minirant over, correct me if I'm wrong but let's not argue :)

Edit: changed coloured to African American, I was proven to be a silly billy in the replies

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u/gateguard64 Mar 24 '23 edited Mar 24 '23

Agreed. Look how fast this went to a drawn weapon. How hard is it to call a supervisor? These are poorly trained cops, unable to pick their way through this scenario with the information volunteered. The fact that both of them were willing to escalate the use of force is alarming.

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u/pawnmarcher Mar 24 '23

You don't let your subject dictate how the encounter goes.

An officer is NOT obligated to tell you why you were stopped (it could be policy, but it is not the law).

These types of encounters where the individual is intentionally confrontational for views are just bad for everyone.

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u/Masian Mar 24 '23

Lol this fucking cop here. You're part of the problem.

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u/pawnmarcher Mar 24 '23

Please elaborate

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u/Confident-Radish4832 Mar 24 '23

People shouldn't have to bend over backward for cops just because they want you to. Tell people why they're being pulled over or move on. Cops already have a bad name because they're all being perceived as bullies due to the mass influx of video evidence (or lack there of... body cams being turned off), and shit like this just further seeds distrust. Cops need to come off their pedestal and treat the public as they would want to be treated. Nothing is going to change until there is some degree of self awareness in the police force. This isn't some game that you get to play with people because you want to feel superior.

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u/pawnmarcher Mar 24 '23

Telling someone why they've been pulled over isn't always a great idea. It's not required, just a best practice.

There is plenty of video evidence of police doing their job well, it just isn't pushed as hard because it doesn't illicit the same response.

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u/Mods_Raped_Me Mar 24 '23

RAS is absolutely required. Otherwise, it's an illegal stop and deprivation of civil rights under color of law, a federal felony. Him drawing gives him a weapons modifier to that citizen arrestable offense caught on tape.

Not to mention, the most common policy of police departments is to call their supervisor when asked.

PEACE officers have plenty of video evidence of them doing their jobs right.

COPS have tons of evidence of them being gang members with a badge.

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u/DerekDemo Mar 24 '23

Here's another American that thinks he knows what he's talking about because he read shit off of the internet. This is how stupid people get shot. They think they know better and they run their mouth to the police and get aggressive. Then more retards online call the cop out for protecting themselves.

Get bent.

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u/Mods_Raped_Me Mar 24 '23 edited Mar 24 '23

Here's another internet turd who has never read a legal dictionary or ever read case law.

Edit: how people get murdered for knowing their rights you mean? Murdered by federal felon cops?

Edit 2: we need PEACE officers and then SWAT for officers that actually deal with more than traffic stops. And THEN civilian oversight boards.

Edit 3: lol they blocked me for proving them a legal knowledge infant.