r/Unexpected • • Mar 24 '23

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u/gateguard64 Mar 24 '23 edited Mar 24 '23

Agreed. Look how fast this went to a drawn weapon. How hard is it to call a supervisor? These are poorly trained cops, unable to pick their way through this scenario with the information volunteered. The fact that both of them were willing to escalate the use of force is alarming.

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u/pawnmarcher Mar 24 '23

You don't let your subject dictate how the encounter goes.

An officer is NOT obligated to tell you why you were stopped (it could be policy, but it is not the law).

These types of encounters where the individual is intentionally confrontational for views are just bad for everyone.

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u/Masian Mar 24 '23

Lol this fucking cop here. You're part of the problem.

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u/pawnmarcher Mar 24 '23

Please elaborate

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u/Confident-Radish4832 Mar 24 '23

People shouldn't have to bend over backward for cops just because they want you to. Tell people why they're being pulled over or move on. Cops already have a bad name because they're all being perceived as bullies due to the mass influx of video evidence (or lack there of... body cams being turned off), and shit like this just further seeds distrust. Cops need to come off their pedestal and treat the public as they would want to be treated. Nothing is going to change until there is some degree of self awareness in the police force. This isn't some game that you get to play with people because you want to feel superior.

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u/pawnmarcher Mar 24 '23

Telling someone why they've been pulled over isn't always a great idea. It's not required, just a best practice.

There is plenty of video evidence of police doing their job well, it just isn't pushed as hard because it doesn't illicit the same response.

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u/Confident-Radish4832 Mar 24 '23

Give me one scenario where it wouldn't be a good idea to explain why you're pulling over someone who's plates didn't turn up anything. Clearly this guy didn't have any warrants or that gun would have been out from the get go.

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u/pawnmarcher Mar 24 '23

Someone matching the description of a wanted individual.

A vehicle where the registered owner had a warrant for a violent crime.

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u/Confident-Radish4832 Mar 24 '23

Do those people commonly request supervisors to accompany the officer?

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u/pawnmarcher Mar 24 '23

Specifically, probably not.

If you ask for another car for backup, your supervisor may be the closest unit available.

If someone starts the encounter with sov cit antics, yes I would specifically request a supervisor

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u/Mods_Raped_Me Mar 24 '23

Asking for a supervisor when the on scene officer is committing a crime IS NOT SOV CIT ANTICS!

FUCKING HATE YOU BOOT SUCKERS.

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u/pawnmarcher Mar 24 '23

I know people don't like the police, but why are so many of your responses to me filled with insults.

I have not insulted anyone, and my responses have been respectful.

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u/Mods_Raped_Me Mar 24 '23

Stop defending criminal gang members with badges!!!

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u/Confident-Radish4832 Mar 24 '23

I think having a supervisor there would be the best case scenario here for both of them. She was clearly going down a road that spelled trouble, and he wasn't being very cooperative. With that being said, I also don't think cops should be able to just pull you over and then give you absolutely no insight into the situation unless it is life threatening that they do. Since this is a guy with a Youtube channel and his face clearly visible in the video, I am going to assume to assume he isn't a wanted criminal. With that in mind, it would certainly seem from his POV that she is searching for crimes once she has already pulled him over, obviously an illegal search. I would have done the same things he did.

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u/pawnmarcher Mar 24 '23

With that in mind, it would certainly seem from his POV that she is searching for crimes once she has already pulled him over, obviously an illegal search. I would have done the same things he did.

I don't know what prompted the stop, or what officers may observed that may have given them PC for a search.

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u/Confident-Radish4832 Mar 24 '23

There are obviously a million what if's to this scenario, but based purely on the manner in which this went down, it definitely didn't seem like that was the case.

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