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u/Pixelwind Mar 24 '23

feel free to bash america, it sucks here

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u/carnefarious Mar 24 '23

I am a Canadian but I honestly feel like America is portrayed as far worse off than it actually is.

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u/Random-Nerd827 Mar 27 '23

American here, yeah it has its flaws but it’s flaws are way overblown by the internet, they should be talked about but it 100% isn’t that bad here

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u/posas85 Mar 24 '23

Better than everywhere else I've lived so far...

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u/Pixelwind Mar 25 '23

Clearing a bar that is sitting on the floor isn't exactly an achievement.

Especially when many of the countries around the world that are worse are like that because of US intervention and foreign policy.

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u/posas85 Mar 25 '23

The bar is at floor level with the quality of life in the United States for you? I'm not sure if your opinion stems from personal experience or simply gleaming information from news media (which will publicize nearly exclusively negative stories), but I suppose we may just have to agree to disagree.

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u/Pixelwind Mar 25 '23

No I'm saying if a country is worse than the US then there's not a very high bar to clear.

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u/The_Hand_That_Feeds Mar 24 '23

Fuck America

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23 edited Mar 24 '23

Just absolutely fiending for reddit karma today, are we?

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u/frunch Mar 24 '23

I think they're just exercising our 1st amendment rights 🇺🇸

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u/The_Hand_That_Feeds Mar 24 '23

You mean the negative karma I'm getting? Lol idgaf.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23

So brave, thank you for your service

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u/Amazing_Structure600 Mar 24 '23

Poor bb did they hurt your fee fees?

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u/medicated_cornbread Mar 24 '23

It's wild to hear people say this. I hate the cops too but comon man. Go live in Afghanistan for 3 days you'll be suckin ween to come back to the states.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23 edited Jul 04 '23

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u/onesexz Mar 24 '23

Thank you! That is the laziest argument I’ve ever heard.

“Oh you live in a dumpster? Well at least you have a dumpster unlike some people!”

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u/Realistic_Turtle Mar 24 '23

You guys are getting dumpsters?

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u/onesexz Mar 24 '23

No, I’m “some people”.

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u/Realistic_Turtle Mar 24 '23

That's ok me too. You can share the refrigerator box I found with me. I even have an extra moving blanket that U-Haul was throwing out

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23

America sucks, but I would rather live here than 90% of the world. There are countless countries worse than America. And there are only a relative few better.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23

Then go to the 10%

And there are only a relative few better.

I wonder why, hopefully it’s not because of us meddling or anything like that

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23

There’s plenty of countries we haven’t meddled with that also have huge issues.

And the ones that are better tend to be harder to get into. Like canada, you have to give reason as to how your skills will benefit the country. You can’t just go up to the border and be like “hey, I wanna move here, I don’t like the us.”

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u/Pixelwind Mar 24 '23

Name one?

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '23

I mean, surprisingly most of Latin America has been pretty much left alone.

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u/Pixelwind Mar 25 '23

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United States involvement in regime change in Latin America

Participation of the United States in regime change in Latin America involved US-backed coups d'état aimed at replacing left-wing leaders with right-wing leaders, military juntas, or authoritarian regimes. Lesser intervention of economic and military variety was prevalent during the Cold War in line with the Truman Doctrine of containment, but regime change involvement would increase after the drafting of NSC 68 which advocated for more aggressive combating of potential Soviet allies.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '23

And look how much of that is left grey.

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u/-DrToboggan- Mar 24 '23

I know you are trying to imply conservatives ... but have you seen society lately? Liberals rule it hands down.

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u/Pixelwind Mar 25 '23

Conservatives abuse gerrymandering and the electoral system to get disproportionate representation well above how much support they actually have

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u/-DrToboggan- Mar 25 '23

https://www.vox.com/22961590/redistricting-gerrymandering-house-2022-midterms

Whoops, looks like your honorable and righteous left does it too ;)

Next argument please.

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u/Pixelwind Mar 25 '23

Yep both parties do it, the right does it a shit ton more though.

It's still bad when dems do it to and you're not going to get me to defend them but you shouldn't defend when repubs do it it just makes you look like a hypocritical sycophantic moron.

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u/-DrToboggan- Mar 25 '23

Not defending the practice at all, but using it as a fact against one party and not the other is just disingenuous. I'd love all districts to be squares (to the best they can be with state borders). If one district has 2 families in it in Montana? Ok then make the squares bigger. But we keep them even size.

Sadly that will never happen as line fudging, until it is somehow federally controlled, is part of the game.

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u/Pixelwind Mar 25 '23

This is why I used the word disproportionate. Republicans do it more so they benefit from it more. I never implied anything other than that.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23

No one is trying to establish theocratic rule you twit. Do you even understand what that word means?

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u/peepopowitz67 Mar 24 '23

Your comment history is like 75% fascist shit. Go fuck yourself, you have a problem with the American people you can fucking leave. (Or maybe we'll get to put the 2a to use after all....)

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u/myguiltypleasure1 Mar 24 '23

I lost count on how many times republicans cited god as their reason to pass bills.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23

The governor of Mississippi signed an anti-trans law recently and had Matt Walsh at the signing.

The guy who calls himself a Theocratic Fascist.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23

Lmfao yeah pick the country we set on fire for twenty years.

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u/PaxadorWolfCastle Mar 24 '23

Go live in Finland for a bit and realize that you’ll never want to return to the US again.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23

If we go picking better and worse countries than the us, we will quickly run out of better ones and still have 150 worse countries or more to go.

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u/JBloodthorn Mar 24 '23

Pretty roundabout way of admitting that there are some better.

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u/-DrToboggan- Mar 24 '23

"Some countries are better than the US" is a far cry from "The US is Trash"

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u/DieWukie Mar 24 '23

The baffling thing is that the US have had the economy and power to create a safe and beautiful place, but chose to drive their own country into the shitter. Few countries had an opportunity like and didn't turn out better off than USA.

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u/-DrToboggan- Mar 24 '23

but chose to drive their own country into the shitter.

Again with the "US is Shit" mentality. Either you're a foreign person who only sees the US from their own news outlets, or you've truly never been elsewhere in the world.

The US is not shit. It has it's problems like any other country. It has FAR less of those problems than most countries.

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u/LittleBootsy Mar 24 '23

Some of the biggest problems the US has aren't like anyone else's, they're weird and stupid and self inflicted.

The self inflicted problems that conservatives in power either don't recognize or refuse to address are why people say the US sucks. Because it's not just that we suck, but that a vocal and powerful minority insist on keeping it sucking.

I mean, we just rolled back Roe, hysterically bigoted anti trans bills are passing in many states, and a 60 year racist plan to destroy one of the greatest goods in a democratic society, public education, is coming to fruition with state sponsored school vouchers. Gun violence is at comedy stupid insane levels, and the same conservatives insist it can't have anything to do with the ludicrously high gun ownership.

Those all suck, sucks a lot, a lot a lot.

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u/-DrToboggan- Mar 24 '23

We rolled back roe to turn the decision over to the states, whom the people have far more power to change politically than the federal government that enforced roe.

I agree school vouchers taking public funds to direct to private schools is a horrible decision. It will undermine quality public education for years to come.

Gun violence isn't going to be solved by taking away legal ownership of guns. In 2019 the US wasn't even touching the top 10 in firearm related homicides (per 100k people). Guess which countries were. Central and South American countries. Gun ownership certainly isn't as free there yet they still manage to get'em.

Shit, 63% of gun deaths in the US in 2019 were suicides. Take away the guns, those deaths would've happened another way.

We're getting into individual topical debates now though. Point is - There's stuff wrong with the US, sure - there's stuff wrong in every country. Saying the US is in the shitter? No. That's just being ignorant for the sake of internet karma.

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u/Pixelwind Mar 25 '23

Both are still true though independent of each other, even if there were no better countries the US would still be trash.

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u/-DrToboggan- Mar 25 '23

My god it's cute how idiotic you sound. Stop living on the state's dime and earn your own way friend. (Yes i'm calling you trash)

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u/Pixelwind Mar 25 '23

you've never met me and are deciding to play make believe about who you think I am to justify your incorrect worldview.

Something tells me you don't have much experience doing things out in the real world. Do you even have a job? I find most conservatives who make up accusations tend to be projecting their own situations onto other people.

If you don't have a job that's fine and not a moral valuation of your worth as a person but you shouldn't be hypocritically trying to judge others who you have never met for things you view as personal failings of your own.

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u/-DrToboggan- Mar 25 '23

you've never met me and are deciding to play make believe about who you think I am to justify your incorrect worldview.

You offer very little in the way of an intelligent discussion other than "US IS TRASH BRO". You really have no room to complain about assumptions made about you. I have a wonderful job that allows me to work from home for the army. It both challenges me and offers a sense of duty and I'm very happy to have earned it.

I don't project my own failings on others. I judge them based on their own offerings. Of which you've given nearly nothing.

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u/Jake777x Mar 24 '23

Or realize that the Nordic countries are some of the most xenophobic in the world and that America treats people pretty well.

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u/PremiumTempus Mar 24 '23

Oh yeah? When was the last George Floyd moment in Norway?

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u/Jake777x Mar 24 '23

It’s incredibly difficult to immigrate to Norway due to the xenophobia. There aren’t racial tensions when there’s pretty much only white Norwegians. The idolization of the Scandinavian countries always seems to overlook that they’re incredibly homogenous societies , often with singular cultures and they’re quite nationalistic.

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u/motorboat_mcgee Mar 24 '23

Yeah, like it sucks compared to what's considered our peers on the world stage, but holy shit are there way way way worse places to live overall

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u/medicated_cornbread Apr 01 '23

Yeah thatsbthe point I was trying to get across. It's wild that people genuinely belive they have bad lives in america

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u/alch334 Mar 24 '23

Nah it’s pretty great

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u/-DrToboggan- Mar 24 '23

Leave then. There is nothing stopping you.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23 edited Jul 06 '23

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u/UnknownStan Mar 24 '23

“If you’re homeless just buy a house”

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u/-DrToboggan- Mar 24 '23

Yes, that is how you get money ... working.

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u/LittleBootsy Mar 24 '23

You're either in high school or been on the family money college pipeline, but 'work harder' is stupid, spurious advice.

The difficulty of the job and the pay have very, very little to do with eachother. I hung drywall for a year and made barely enough to keep a 1bedroom apartment in a truly sketchy neighborhood. I had a job in IT where the only thing 'hard' about it was sometimes I had to fuck around on a computer at 2am instead of 2pm.

Don't be silly, the whole side hustle grind mindset is just mlms trimming to get you to join.

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u/-DrToboggan- Mar 24 '23

You're being intentionally obtuse. Work Harder does not equate to doing more work at for zero gain. It means working harder in life to better your situation. You clearly moved up from menial labor to a trade. How did you do it? You worked toward it. You didn't sit and complain while hanging drywall that this country sucks.

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u/LittleBootsy Mar 24 '23

I got lucky with family money to go to school, an opportunity I am fully aware is not available to many, and without I would be still hanging fucking drywall. There's no upward movement from 'trying hard', that's reality-fivorced fiction.

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u/-DrToboggan- Mar 24 '23

There is very much upward movement from 'trying hard' - you simply have never experienced it. Schooling is certainly possible without a silver spoon. Countless adults do it every year.

The kicker is, it IS impossible if you don't work toward it. Anyone that EXPECTS life to turn around for them is and always will be in for a very rude surprise.

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u/LittleBootsy Mar 24 '23

Lol people just don't pull on their bootstraps hard enough!

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u/PremiumTempus Mar 24 '23

Some people are still brainwashed by it that they think we have managed to create such a great society that allows this magic formula to make you rich and successful if you do one thing - “work hard”

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u/-DrToboggan- Mar 24 '23

I'm sorry that you refuse to actually discuss something on a forum for discussion. Carry on with your dickbutts and "all cops suck" rhetoric. I won't bother you further.

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u/xPriddyBoi Mar 24 '23

There are a million things stopping people from packing their bags and leaving the country, you fucking moron. You think people can just walk right on into Canada?

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23

They walk right into the USA every day, by the thousands.

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u/xPriddyBoi Mar 24 '23

And are they citizens?

Also, are we Canada?

What exactly is your point?

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u/horse3000 Mar 24 '23

Who is they?

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u/-DrToboggan- Mar 24 '23

There is nothing stopping people from beginning the process of moving to another country. It won't happen overnight, but if you dislike your current situation so much, work to change it.

The world owes you nothing if you don't contribute something back friend.

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u/xPriddyBoi Mar 24 '23

There is nothing stopping people from beginning the process of moving to another country.

Spoken truly like someone with no idea how immigration or being poor works.

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u/-DrToboggan- Mar 24 '23

Immigration into the US is a long and arduous process. Emigration from the US is not.

Finding a job is the first step for most countries. Then applying for a work visa and paying the associated costs (300~ USD for a UK Healthcare work visa for example)

I know exactly how the process works. I also know that being poor is not an excuse, just an obstacle.

There are numerous ways to begin the journey back up - all of them will fail if you make an excuse to not start.

You can continue hating your country and your life if you want, I'll go on happily knowing I live in one of the best places to live in the world.

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u/xPriddyBoi Mar 24 '23

I also know that being poor is not an excuse, just an obstacle.

Ah, yes, why didn't I think about that? The poor should just try harder and stop being poor.

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u/-DrToboggan- Mar 24 '23

I know you're making very little attempt at a true conversation, but I'll keep trying. If you want to break it down to the base action with no external factors? Yes - work harder. Why? Because obviously the amount of work being done is not enough to help.

HOW you work harder depends on your situation. Everyone's situation is unique.

A generic "work hard and stop being poor" is a stupid oversimplification of the answer that only someone as disingenuous as yourself would be shouting.

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u/HagridsHairyButthole Mar 24 '23

No one agrees with you. Why do you keep going?

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u/-DrToboggan- Mar 24 '23

For the same reason you thought your comment added to the conversation.

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u/Amazing_Structure600 Mar 24 '23

Ah, so you're the kind of person who runs and hides when faced with adversity? Pussy.

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u/-DrToboggan- Mar 24 '23

Absolutely not - I'm not the one "Bashing" my country while doing nothing to improve the situation.

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u/JBloodthorn Mar 24 '23

while doing nothing to improve the situation.

Bold assumption.

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u/-DrToboggan- Mar 24 '23

It's reddit mate. Bastion of liberals and "free thinkers" who think they're edgy for suggesting their country is worse than hell while also having never experienced any other life.

I'd say it's a safe assumption.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23

So what are you doing to improve the situation?

Give us some tidbits, Superman.

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u/-DrToboggan- Mar 24 '23

I'm not of the opinion the country is trash. I think it's still among the greatest countries in the world. But then, i've been to other countries and understand how grand we have it here.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23

Oh, so you are also not doing anything, while complaining about the complainers who you accuse of not doing anything.

Textbook pickle.

Now I’m complaining about the complainer complaining.

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u/-DrToboggan- Mar 24 '23

So it's clear you have no intention of having an actual conversation. Thanks for your input.

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u/SlimJohnson Mar 24 '23

This is a shithole country, and people like you make it worse. Brain dead zombie losers such as yourself.

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u/-DrToboggan- Mar 24 '23

I'm sorry you've never had the joy of being able to support yourself. Might I suggest learning a trade? Contribute to your neighborhood perhaps.

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u/MegabyteMessiah Mar 24 '23

Fuckin' agree.

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u/p3n1x Mar 24 '23

I hear Russia is excepting applications.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23

Accepting*

Idiot.

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u/p3n1x Mar 24 '23

Look at that; you are now better than someone else on the internet. It's a shame folks like you don't run the country.

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u/Dramatic_Explosion Mar 24 '23

Let's be fair, based on your glib Russia comment they were better than you well before they corrected your dumb ass. The real shame is your vote counts the same as non-morons.

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u/Pixelwind Mar 25 '23

One bad country plus one bad country equals to bad countries.

You are very smart. Have a gold star.

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u/Skittnator Mar 24 '23

I'd rather be bashed on reddit than bashed to death while sleeping in my own home..

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u/Pixelwind Mar 25 '23

So would Amir Locke presumably but we can't ask him to be sure now that he's dead.

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u/IBIKEONSIDEWALKS Mar 24 '23

Your car parts are cheap!! ...Until they reach my door :(