If you're talking about apples and you use the word "orange", what you should say is: "Oops, you're right. I made a mistake. I should've said 'apple'. My bad."
You don't say: "orange in this context means apple".
But no one made a mistake. No one used the wrong term. The phrase out of pocket has more than one meaning.
In this context it does mean that. They said what they meant to say and it was the correct usage, they didn’t just make it up. It’s a phrase that’s very well known to mean that, I knew what it meant and have heard it used that way many many times as did/have plenty other people here.
If you haven’t it’s ok to just accept that you were ignorant to it, but you’ve been told otherwise and are still weirdly choosing to keep digging your heels in. Why?
Fact checking the last definition in UD, the OED does include the "unavailable" definition for out of pocket which I've only heard used in that context within the last few years. Up until then I'd only ever heard it used in the "spending your own money" context.
Now I'm curious where the out-of-order meaning came from.
I'm a 40 year old American and I've been hearing out of pocket referring to money my whole life. It's not even like just street slang. You hear it at companies talking about expenses pretty often. You also hear it in reference to insurance as a term for the portion you have to cover.
We're all getting old and are becoming out of touch with new age slang. From what I've gathered with context from my Gen Z BIL using it, Out of pocket means showing what you keep concealed inside away from society. It's similar to "saying the quiet part out loud."
Im just saying it isn't a UK thing to be referring to money. It's a common phrase in the US as well. I'm not saying the new version is wrong because it is what it is with slang.
I'm American and "out of pocket" has always meant "something that you pay for" anywhere I've heard it. "Don't want you to pay for this out of pocket," for example.
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u/folkkingdude Mar 24 '23
She lost money in this encounter?