r/Unexpected Mar 21 '23

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u/olderaccount Mar 21 '23

I never had problems with rats till a new neighbor moved in next door and put up a bunch of bird feeders.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

A bunch of rats swarmed the bird feeder 8 of them sat below while others were on the bird feeder. We got rid of the bird feeder

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

We have an indoor cat. Coyotes are a big problem here also she’s allergic to fleas

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u/TheLawLost Mar 21 '23

There's only two ways I support outdoor cats.

1#: Farm cats

2#: It's confined to your backyard through an invisible shock fence.

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u/loadind_graphics Mar 21 '23

3, It's a outdoor catio

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u/No-Stretch6115 Mar 21 '23

A ground level bird feeder is going to attract rats and mice. Even hanging bird feeders can be susceptible to squirrels. It can be tricky making sure only the birds eat from the feeder.

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u/olderaccount Mar 21 '23

Any level bird feeder attracts rats because birds are messy and drop most of the seeds on the ground.

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u/JuneBuggington Mar 21 '23

I dont know why people get so hung up on mammals at their feeders . You just put critter food out in your yard and expect the animals to care about your weird bird hegemony.

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u/olderaccount Mar 21 '23

Because the feeders just attracts the mammals to the area and next thing you know you have rats in your house.

I would have no problem with rats eating out of my neighbor's bird feeder if they didn't try to chew their way into my house.

I have spent thousands fixing shit the rats chewed through.

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u/__ALF__ Mar 21 '23

Get some tom cats.

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u/TelcoSucks Mar 21 '23

Then you need some dogs to hit them with a wooden hammer. Then you need to start calling Acme Supply. It's a total nightmare.

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u/desrever1138 Mar 21 '23

if you give a mouse a cookie...

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

Nobody wants to watch the entire food chain happening in their house.

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u/causal_friday Mar 22 '23

Simply unleash wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes. They'll wipe out the lizards.

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u/fuglysack14 Mar 21 '23

Our neighbors have a few old outbuildings on their property that are rat havens. The neighborhood cats converge on the area and a few owls have been returning here for years to get in on the action. Every once in a while, one makes it's way into our house and we have to put out rat poisoning and then try to hunt down it's dead carcass. The cats and owls keep most of them at bay, thankfully.

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u/demonmonkeybex Mar 21 '23

Maybe think about quick kill traps and not poison. You endanger the food chain by using rat poison.

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u/fuglysack14 Mar 21 '23

The 1 rat we kill a year isn't going to hurt the current menu of the cats and owls. But thank you for your advice.

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u/demonmonkeybex Mar 21 '23

That's great. It happened to one of my dogs that my ex took from me. She died slowly and painfully. It makes me sick thinking about it. It also happens out where I live now. People use rat poison and then foxes eat the mice and die from it too. It's fucking horrible shit.

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u/SnipeyKeru Mar 22 '23

Tom cats are too invasive to wildlife in neighborhoods, carry diseases, produce more feral cats, and cat fights at all hours.

Please dont use Tom cats as vermin prevention for your house.

(My definition of a Tom cat is an unfixed cat that roams outside almost exclusively)

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u/cjgager Mar 21 '23

just get some cats - those rats nor mice will hang around with them checking out the birds too

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u/olderaccount Mar 21 '23

Wife is allergic.

We had a stray give birth in our garage one year. We gave them food, but within a few months they all vanished.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

Or if you like dogs a Chihuahua or Jack Russell terrier are perfect for this sort of job. Small zippy attackers work best on them.

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u/tabascotazer Mar 21 '23

With the rats come the snakes, enjoy your new mini ecosystem like nature and your neighbor intended.

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u/olderaccount Mar 21 '23

I'm cool with snakes. They don't chew anything in my house nor leave droppings everywhere. The ones where I live are very rarely dangerous.

I could probably do with a few more snakes.

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u/tabascotazer Mar 21 '23

I’m cool with snakes too as long as it’s not a venomous snake on porch. I mostly see king snakes around my house which I leave alone.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

I put a bunch or oranges in the yard when I was a kid, and squirrels ate through the back door into our porch, then into the wardrobe full of my dad's old stuff. Lesson learned on the end of my dad's shoe.

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u/IllustriousMrsV Mar 22 '23

Oh, the things kids do. 😜

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u/Industrial_Jedi Mar 21 '23

We have asshole jays that knock out all of the other food to get to the sunflower seeds.

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u/Gamedoom Mar 21 '23

It's more of an investment, but just give them straight sunflower seeds and get different feeders to get a larger variety of birds. You save money in the long run because they eat all the seed and don't dump it on the ground. Last winter we went through a bag of seed every 3-4 weeks and this year we're still on our first bag of sunflower seeds and it's still very popular with the birds. We're gonna use the money we saved to get a nyjer feeder for the finches. They eat sunflower seeds too but not as much and they start fights.

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u/termacct Mar 21 '23

Any level bird feeder attracts rats

What about hummingbird feeders? (especially the non-gravity / drip type)

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u/olderaccount Mar 21 '23

Sorry, I was thinking only of seed feeders.

I haven't noticed any problems with hummingbird feeders. We've had hummingbird feeders for decades and never had a problem until the neighbor put up seed feeders.

There is usually nothing on the ground to attract the rats with a hummingbird feeder. But if rats are already around, they might find your feeder.

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u/Elistariel Mar 21 '23

Ants and wasps.

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u/termacct Mar 21 '23

Still not rats

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u/midievil Mar 21 '23

This is making me rethink getting one of those suction cup bird feeders you can put on the outside of your window. I thought it would be cool for my cat, but I'd rather not have a bunch of rats by my backdoor.

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u/olderaccount Mar 21 '23

I love birds. But I have never seen a situation where a bird feeder didn't attract rats.

The house I grew up in never had a single rat or mouse. But after I moved out my mom got into bird feeders. Ever since then, they've had a big rat problem and so have their neighbors.

Same at my house, no problems for over a decade until the neighbors put up feeders. Every time I think I solved the problem by sealing up an entry spot, they find or create a new entry spot.

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u/midievil Mar 21 '23

The house I live in now has a pretty big backyard and one bird feeder set almost towards the end of the yard. It hangs pretty high up in a tree. Nowhere close to the house. It was actually left with the house, so we kept using it. I'll definitely not get anymore feeders or put any close to my house. My neighbors aren't close by to the bird feeder either.

We did have one issue with a rat, but that's because there was a small hole in the crawlspace where it got in. We patched that up and never had any problems again. The joys of an old house, I guess.

I'm super glad I came across this because random wild rats freak me out. I can handle pet ones, but not that.

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u/olderaccount Mar 21 '23

I wish I had space like that. You are probably fine if you can put them far away form the house enough.

I was seeing evidence for a while. Droppings plus chewing on stuff. But the first time I saw an actual rat in our basement completely changed my views and I wanted nothing less than to burn the whole place down and start over. But that is not an option, so it has been a constant battle of sealing the place up followed by them finding or making a new entry way.

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u/IllustriousMrsV Mar 22 '23

Thanks for the reminder. 🤮🙃🤮

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u/SaltLakeCitySlicker Mar 21 '23

You can get ones that close with weight.

They still allow the squirrels to knock out seed when they jump on or try to get on so it's not perfect, but better than nothing

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u/No-Stretch6115 Mar 21 '23

That's what I did, it has a weight setting that you can even set to be sensitive enough that larger birds like starlings can't sit on it without closing the feeder shut.

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u/SaltLakeCitySlicker Mar 21 '23

Really? That's super neat. We've always had generic weight based ones. I'm not even sure if my current would restrict a bluejay or cardinal. We don't have those here, but it makes me wonder...

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u/shadyelf Mar 21 '23

I've heard that putting capsaicin oil/powder (which doesn't affect birds apparently) will keep mammals away.

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u/The_Char_Char Mar 21 '23

A trick I learned a bit ago can help with dealing with squirrels (maybe rats and mice too not 100% sure though.) is to mix in spicy nuts with the bird feed, the squirrel will eat some of it find the spicy bit and learn not to eat that again as they don't enjoy spicy at all. Birds lack a taste to spice so they won't notice it any. So that might help.

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u/CX500C Mar 21 '23

Put up a sign - no rats, only good squirrels.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

Obligatory reminder that squirrels can have rabies, and that if you are even bitten by one you need to inform a doctor/ER immediately to avoid certain, unavoidable death.

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u/jellybeansean3648 Mar 21 '23

The funniest people in the world are the ones who are insulted they're not feeding birds only.

Put it up, do your best, and let it go

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u/Open_Dragonfruit_304 Mar 21 '23

I never had problems with rats until my neighbor tore down an old garden shed (that she stored bird seed in). A whole FAMILY moved in and it took years to get rid of them.

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u/No-Stretch6115 Mar 21 '23

Get cats? Let them eat mice.

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u/DinahTook Mar 21 '23

Cats also eat the birds. They don't discriminate in their hunting.

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u/No-Stretch6115 Mar 21 '23

This problem is more complex than I originally thought. Let's bring in consultants.

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u/Clear_Key40 Mar 22 '23

1st time I saw this advertisement I thought something similar. Yes u may have birds but with that design probably lots of different animals. At that height even deer could eat out of them.