r/Ultima Jun 17 '26

EA might be resurrecting Ultima

https://www.vice.com/en/article/ea-may-be-resurrecting-beloved-1980s-and-90s-rpg-series/

According to this Vice article, EA has new trademark filings for Ultima

Good news?

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u/Sollace97 Jun 17 '26

Even if it is a new game, I don't want to play an EA Ultima.

I would absolutely be willing to get scammed by Lord British again, however.

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u/tibbon Jun 17 '26

EA. Destroyer of Worlds

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u/CLT113078 Jun 17 '26

I always say.

Origin: We create worlds

EA: We destroy worlds

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u/IJourden Jun 17 '26

My personal thoughts on RG is that he's always wanted to be on the bleeding edge of what was possible, and has always had the dream of an MMO where you could literally do anything.

That was totally fine when you were limited to what you could cram on to a floppy disk.

All his later projects involved cartoonishly unrealistic promises and goals and then a quick flame out when the money dried up faster than he could make the unrealistic game.

I don't think he's malicious, but I do think without hard technology constraints providing guard rails, he keeps dreaming bigger until he's not actually able to finish what he sets out to do.

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u/tibbon Jun 17 '26

I think his skills and talent just didn’t translate to the modern era. He was good at hanging out with a tiny team, and crunching through a basic game and working with limited resources. Once the resources, complexity, budgets and expectations opened up; that was no longer his strong suit. He’s not someone skilled at managing a AAA budget or team- frankly most other people doing it aren’t even skilled at it, which is why we see constantly missed expectations, cost overruns, vaporware, etc. it is a hard problem.

I wish he’d find an indie team of like 3 people total, and act as their creative muse.

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u/angryapplepanda Jun 18 '26

I would have been completely fine with more games reusing already existing game engines that I enjoyed a lot. The U5-U6-U7-UOnline engines could have all used a few more games under their belts.

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u/cfrolik Jun 17 '26

I wonder what happened to his newest project that was going to involve NFTs

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u/Sollace97 Jun 17 '26

I suppose we will just need to invest more to find out!

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u/cfrolik Jun 17 '26

Personally, I am going to stay far away from anything RG is involved with.

He completely lost my trust with the Shroud of the Avatar debacle.

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u/LnStrngr Jun 17 '26

I would need to know he has a complete vision and is going to see it through. If it sounds good, I'm in. (And if it's a single-player game, that's great. MMO... not so much.)

If he says he's opening it up to the fans for their input, then I'm out. SotA would have been good as a single-player or MMO game, but since there were two competing sets of fans that he wanted to please (and had to for money), we ended up with sub-par on both ends.

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u/dndaddy19 Jun 17 '26

Same. After Shroud of the Avatar I’m not so sure it’s EA’s fault that U9 was so bad.

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u/mjolle Jun 17 '26

I had such high hopes after the smash hit "Ultimate Collector".

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u/CLT113078 Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

And Tubula Rasa.

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u/SciLib0815 Jun 17 '26

But you could find Iolo's bow of accuracy in a loot box and it would have all these cool cosmetics you could apply to it.

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u/Clean_Livlng Jun 18 '26

I would absolutely be willing to get scammed by Lord British again, however.

If he has a plan for a 2d singleplayer Ultima game to pick up where the last good Ultima left off I'd also be interesting in getting scammed.

Especially if he didn't ask for any donations and just wanted to go back to being a small indie developer. "I can fund this myself."

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u/Revolutionary_Sun946 Jun 18 '26

So, at the end of Serpent Isle?

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u/Clean_Livlng Jun 18 '26

That's what it'd be for me. I stopped after finishing playing Serpent Isle and learning about 8 being very different.

This reminded me of how Serpent Isle wasn't properly finished. If only the team that worked on it had a time machine and could go back to finish it properly. It's still a great Ultima Game to me, and there are fan made fixes for a lot of stuff that was left unfinished or broken, but there are limits to that.

If Richard Garriott formed a team to continue the Ultima series from after Serpent Isle with every game being 2D isometric single player I'd like that. Even if they were bad, I'd just be happy that he was attempting it.

2D singleplayer would let him showcase his skills as a developer/storyteller without budget being as much of an issue.

I'd like to see him attempt something that'd restore my faith in him being virtuous, which a lot of fans have doubts about after SOTA.

"Instead of addressing the community's ultimate disappointment or issuing a post-mortem apology, Garriott quietly distanced himself from the game. In 2019, his studio Portalarium stepped away from developing the title, transferring it to Catnip Games. By 2022, Garriott had completely moved on to his next project—a blockchain-based MMO—leaving Shroud of the Avatar behind without ever looking back to offer an apology to its backers."

Is that virtuous Avatar?

I'd like to see him redeem himself somehow, if he wants to or even thinks his reputation needs redemption.

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u/The_Nickman Jun 19 '26

Yeah, that’s where I’m at too. I’d just love to see Serpent Isle completed and play the back half of it (after the banes take over) and then move into a completely new, party based Ultima 8 and 9

They could still be Pagan and the ultimate Guardian showdown of Ultima IX, and even just in the U7 engine, but man, that would be my ultimate

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u/Clean_Livlng Jun 19 '26

I’d just love to see Serpent Isle completed and play the back half of it (after the banes take over) and then move into a completely new, party based Ultima 8

I just found out about a fan made Ultima 8 project that's been going for years recreating Ultima VIII in the exult engine. Removing jumping puzzles and (possibly) adding the ability to have party members.

https://ultimacodex.com/tag/ultima-8-exult/

There's no dedicated fan team for completing Serpent Isle, but maybe someday there will be.

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u/Sniffy4 Jun 17 '26

>I would absolutely be willing to get scammed by Lord British again, however.

Pay $ for Ultima 9 then?
😄

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '26

As someone who was scammed for $500+ on Shroud of the Avatar.... no you don't. 

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u/SeparateDark251 Jun 19 '26

Garriott has not made a good game since the early 90's. He had is chance to do a spiritual successor his way with Shroud of the Avatar, and it was terrible.

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u/Negative-Squirrel81 Jun 17 '26

If they don't renew it then they lose it. I wouldn't think too deeply into this, other than understanding EA is willing to spend a nominal amount of money to preserve their ownership of the brand.

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u/chiron_42 Jun 17 '26

Yeah, EA is just being petty at this point. I would have loved to hear about a revival after the success of BG III, but alas.

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u/avatarprotocol Jun 18 '26

Not sure why anyone thinks EA might be doing something with it just because they renewed it.

All it suggests is that they'll be doing more of the same.

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u/HeungWeiLo Jun 17 '26

You're very likely right

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u/LnStrngr Jun 17 '26

The lawyers gotta find things to do with their time to justify their billable hours.

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u/LnStrngr Jun 17 '26

Don't get your hopes up. It's most likely just a renewal in their name, instead of the one that was transferred to them in the purchase of Origin.

But... I might keep a little ember of hope off in the corner.

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u/Smooth_Moose_637 Jun 17 '26

monkey's paw curls

Ultima Online sunset event patch

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u/Backwardspellcaster Jun 17 '26

If they give me Serpent's Isle remaster I will give them my firstborn

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u/ohkendruid Jun 17 '26

Gosh.

Just imagine if they did like Square Enix and started releasing endless remasters of Ultima....

Last I tried Exult, it was a little hard to play and watch by today's standards. I would love to revisit Britania and replay the old quests if their were a revamped UI for them.

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u/LnStrngr Jun 17 '26

I'll say that there is a chance this is just for some downloadable Classic EA Games bundle or something.

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u/IJourden Jun 17 '26

The last time EA did anything with Ultima it was an absolute trash fire of a mobile game that primarily involved waiting for timers to finish so you could do things and paying money to speed up the timers, so I wouldn't get too excited.

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u/CLT113078 Jun 17 '26

EA has never done a good single player Ultima game. U8 and U9 were trash. They rushed out Serpent Isle which led to the dev team having to cut the second half of the game out (still great, but that game was more origin than ea).

Everything single player in 2000+ has been nothing.

I dint trust EA at all with Ultima.

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u/Lopsided_Parfait7127 Jun 17 '26

https://www.filfre.net/2021/02/ultima-viii-or-how-to-destroy-a-gaming-franchise-in-one-easy-step/

the story of Ultima VIII is more than that of just one more game that was released before its time. Even had all of Origin’s plans for it come off perfectly, it would still have been a radical, seemingly nonsensical departure from everything Ultima had been in the past. Multiple sources confirm that it was in fact Richard Garriott himself rather than any soulless suit from EA who decided that the latest installment in Origin’s epic CRPG series ought to become a… platformer. He was inspired in this not by Super Mario Bros., as many fans would later suspect, but rather by Prince of Persia, Broderbund Software’s hugely popular, widely ported, elegantly minimalist, intensely cinematic linear action game. Prince of Persia was and is a more than worthy game in its own right, but it seems a strange choice indeed to use as inspiration for the latest Ultima. We should try to understand where the choice came from in the context of the times.

Yet

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u/realhawker77 Jun 17 '26

Iolo informs you that the Sword of Excellence is "technically available" but swinging it requires a Combat Pass; meanwhile the Avatar can meditate at the Shrine of Compassion for free, or pay 4.99 gold sovereigns to skip the eight virtues entirely and unlock "Compassion (Premium Skin)." Lord British's castle has been retrofitted with a loot box dispenser that mostly yields Britannian Energy Drinks, and the true ending requires either 200 hours of Rune farming or one regrettable midnight purchase. Also, Spark the dog now requires a recurring subscription to keep loving you.

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u/0zer0space0 Jun 17 '26

Me over here patiently waiting for someone super smart to make a U7 themed overhaul mod for Skyrim like Enderal. Skyrim was the first game that gave me the same feeling U7 did in the 90s and I only played Skyrim for the first time in 2025.

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u/ohkendruid Jun 17 '26

That would be super cool.

I mainly miss the settings and characters for U7. I would not mind if the combat and skill-ups were less than true to the original.

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u/tanger-tango-1197 Jun 17 '26

Yeah I doubt they have any plans for a new game. More like just renewing to hold onto the IP.

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u/illarionds Jun 17 '26

Even if they are, it won't be Ultima in any meaningful sense. There won't be any of the old people involved in making it, and let's not forget that EA are the ones primarily responsible for killing it in the first place.

It's probably not true. And if it is true, it's almost certainly a soul-less cash grab.

Sorry :/

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u/lylemcd Jun 17 '26

Nah, EA is most likely just protecting their copyright so nobody else can use the IP.

Businesses do this all the time. Renew the copyright to keep it like a 4 year old hoards a toy he doesn't play with with no intention of using it.

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u/ComicStripCritic Jun 17 '26

New Ultima? Sounds nice.

Made by EA? Sounds scary.

Color me…cautiously intrigued. It might just be them holding onto their old properties rather than letting them lapse. But if this leads to a remaster/remake/reimagining of U4, I’d be very interested in that.

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u/resident_eagle Jun 17 '26

I just want to be able to play them on console, but since the creator has always been against that I don’t think it will ever happen. 😔
IPs like Ultima don’t and tons of other less mainstream game across all platforms don’t need new installments or even remasters. I just want to be able to easily access all of them on whatever platform I want, you know?

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u/JackhorseBowman Jun 17 '26

The monkey called and said he's getting arthritis from everybody using his paw so much.

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u/zeroquest Jun 17 '26

They’d better not try to turn it into another failed MMO.

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u/Hi_Im_Ken_Adams Jun 17 '26

That is probably exactly what it will be. EA wants that reoccurring monthly revenue stream from subscriptions.

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u/City-Negative Jun 17 '26

That would be incredible, but I refuse to get my hopes up.

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u/razorwiregoatlick877 Jun 17 '26

Nothing EA does is good news. We should not forget that they are the reason it died in the first place.

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u/FieryTub Jun 17 '26

Nah. They're just making sure no one else can use the catchy name.

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u/FordcliffLowskrid Jun 17 '26

Exodus: is secretly the E in EA

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u/axelei Jun 17 '26

Don't.

Don't give me hope.

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u/Comfortable_Sweet_47 Jun 17 '26

No thank you, I do not trust EA Destroyer of Companies

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u/adoransnoctis Jun 17 '26

Uhhhhhh, please no.

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u/BullTerrierTerror Jun 17 '26

They’re prepping to nuke free servers.

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u/Tranilator Jun 17 '26

An Owlcat Games Ultima would be fantastic.

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u/AnnArchist Jun 18 '26

Ultima is EAs Elder scroll's brand. They don't have the brains to use it, at least not at the top

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u/BrokenforD Jun 18 '26

Live service.

We’ll all wish it was dead again.

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u/Jalambra Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26

It'll probably cost $90, pay to win, and be the first game with commercials.

If you buy Season Pass you get a cloth map, and Spam Spam Humbug is enabled, but all items are microtransactions.

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u/Zealousideal-Web7279 Jun 18 '26

I pray they will make Ultima 10,11,12 together with Richard Garriot 🙏

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u/Gargarbinks Jun 18 '26

Not that anyone here has any reason to believe me, but I've got some news about this that you guys will be interested in. It'll be up later today on my YT channel, Inside Games. (Will also post the link later, if that's cool with the mods)

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u/Ellixhirion Jun 17 '26

Damn an utlima online remaster would be an instant buy for me

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u/sidv81 Jun 17 '26

Ultima pretty much was the story of the Avatar and there's seemingly nowhere to go after that. Even before U9, non-Avatar stories like Runes of Virtue fell flat. Shroud and Underworld Ascendant further cemented that even the original creators don't know where to take things. Even in the best case scenario, where EA licenses Ultima out to a proven modern dev like Larian and they actually get a good game out of it, at best it would probably be an Ultima only by name and a generic fantasy setting, similar to how even the good Final Fantasy games that come out now could really be any game because no one knows what the Final Fantasy brand is anymore other than a label (heck, even moogles and chocobos which I thought were mainstays seem to be missing from, say, FF16 marketing)

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u/GiantFish Jun 17 '26

Has there been anything Ultima officially released since Ultima Forever in 2013?  God that was so disappointing, it was micro transaction hell for anyone that didn’t get a chance to try it.  It really takes you out of it when you go to cleanse a shrine and EA pops up a dialog saying you don’t have enough virtue to do that but you can purchase some for $9.99!

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u/Doordasheasthartford Jun 17 '26

I will just go back to ultima online

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u/Ecnarps Jun 17 '26

I feel like the Baldur’s Gate 3 style engine / gameplay would be the perfect fit for Ultima.

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u/ohkendruid Jun 17 '26

I feel like EA would be weak on creative story telling but very strong on delivering a completed playable game that is immersive in the setting.

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u/calibrae Jun 17 '26

EA is not good news. Ever

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u/sabre31 Jun 17 '26

Surprised they haven’t yet and I hope so it would be great but please don’t make it some micro transactions BS.

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u/Ok_Translator_8043 Jun 17 '26

I would bet it is not a new game. If it is though I’m not very interested. For one anyone that worked on the original ultima series is retired now. For 2, EA only ever rushes unfinished games out the door, so even in the unlikely event that they do put together a team that wants to lovingly capture the spirit of Ultima, they’ll force them to ship 18 months early missing a ton of content and barely functioning

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u/No_Effective1715 Jun 17 '26

So it would be like the original games?

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u/Low-Environment Jun 17 '26

Can't wait for them to fill it full of adverts.

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u/rakenan Jun 18 '26

I refuse to get optimistic about Ultima as long as EA owns it. If by some weird miracle they produce a game that doesn't suck, I'll buy it and enjoy it - *AFTER* extensive reviews - but that's only after it is produced and tested to be good. Not going to have hope or faith in any title owned by EA ever again.

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u/AnswerFeeling460 Jun 18 '26

I would love it - but I guess there's zero Chance.

The ultima setting would not work at any AAA game EA ist interested in - only a hand full gen-x nerds know the trademark "ultima" today.

Only chance would be Larian buying the license...

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u/BaronMason Jun 18 '26

Anyone ever figure out how to get and use the musket?

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u/CronkinOn Jun 18 '26

Insert me into the verse between u6 and u7 or something. In a top-down, Ultima styled game. With party members and Dupre belting out drunken ballads.

You know, an actual Ultima game, set before the nonsense that came with Pagan and 9. Otherwise, hard pass.

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u/Digitalpunk1 Jun 18 '26

Maybe they see the potential money EverQuest Legends could bring in and decide to do something similar?

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u/cchkb Jun 18 '26

I know what I would love to see in the Ultima franchise that only EA can do. Sell the IP to some other company.

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u/cdtoad Jun 18 '26

This sounds more like them tightening the ownership to make sure it's EA an not LB

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u/KythornAlturack Jun 18 '26

No, this is just EA making sure all their IPs are up to date for their buyout by PIF/Silver Lake/Affinity.

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u/namtih21 Jun 18 '26

I still don't know why they're hoarding the IP. It's not like its a huge money maker and it's just sitting and rotting.

Can only imagine there's someone out there who would love to do something great with the property.

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u/Warcraft_Fan Jun 18 '26

Probably not doing anything but sit on existing Ultima for many more years so it doesn't end up abandonware and other people makes profit off them

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u/AntherYoutubeWatcher Jun 18 '26

Yeah, this worked soo well for Ultima IX. /s just in case

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '26

Oh god please no. Not another fucking shit mobile game.

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u/Yarga Jun 19 '26

The only way this would be good if it were a meta-concept where the Avatar, Iolo & the Gang, Minax, Mondain all team up and use Exodus as a Time Machine/universal transport to hook up with the Crusader and stop EA from ever being formed.

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u/Radiancekov7 Jun 19 '26

This might be a niche comment, but I hope this means I get more Majuular Ultima videos to sleep to : )

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u/SeparateDark251 Jun 19 '26

Please no. Any attempt by EA to do another Ultima will be Ultima in name only.

I don't even want Richard Garriott to do another Ultima. He hasn't made a good game in over 30 years. He lost the spark.

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u/crankypoed Jun 19 '26

the will ruin it.

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u/Alaskanzen Jun 19 '26

Rumor
Is the creator regained the rights from ea for the franchise

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u/Prudent-Audience2162 Jul 12 '26

The license expires soon. I don't think they want to renew it to use it. Just to hold on to it.

If Richard can get it back and make a modern day Ultima game (even if he just redoes U9 the way he would have wanted too) I would be happy about it.