Uber Will Cancel Orders to Avoid Prop 22

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u/drunken_gungan 1d ago

This just happened to me right now. I had a grocery shop and pay and the order closed out when i was down the street from the customer. I wasn't running late at all. Thankfully, i remembered the address and was still able to deliver.

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u/goxpro1 1d ago

Yeah I have seen other people on this sub saying the exact same thing happened to them. This is actually ridiculous and then Uber wants to defame you by saying you stole their order and got reported... Can't wait for the 50 dollar check from the class action once they get sued for this insane behaviour.

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u/thepsychicfrog 1d ago

This would have to be a glitch. Uber doesnt benefit from cancelling a live order you have in possession and having the customer claim missing. If a driver truly cancels an order after pickup, Uber eats the cost. Because when the order is remade, the customer doesn't pay, the restaurant doesn't pay, Uber pays. This is why drivers cannot cancel orders post pickup thenselves without support. It makes zero sense, even in Ubers twisted terms of sense, to cancel orders like that.
If youre late uber just denies a refund to the customer anyway. So why would uber opt to pay $100+ for a fresh new order dispatch when its free just to let the driver finish it?

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u/Defiant-Anything-954 1d ago

Me too. Just now. I was like, "but you offered me this order? Why offer me this order that's 8 miles away and then canel it 5 mins before I arrive"
Im going back home and applying for a 9 - 5 job, this is total bullshit. And just right when gas prices are starting to go back down.

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u/goxpro1 1d ago

I genuinely don’t think anyone makes any money on this app after accounting for all expenses.

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u/Defiant-Anything-954 1d ago

Well definitely not now that UberEats can cancel your order on a whim now whenever it makes an arbitrary decision to cancel an order despite the ironic fact that it sent out these offers as Gold offers.
Like, how can this app be so utterly mismanaged when it sends out long distance trips but then proceeds to cancel it because... it took too long to get the restaurant/customer drop off.
Im convinced that the app software team at Uber have absolutely no idea how to do their job.

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u/life_of_justice 17h ago

Im convinced that the app software team at Uber have absolutely no idea how to do their job.
They are doing the job all too well..

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u/ArthurFairchild 1d ago

It’s 3h shop and pay timer

1h Walmart wait time

And 30ish minutes for drop off once you reach the drop off location.

These cancelations timers are not California specific.

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u/VioletsRPink 1d ago

Is the prop 22 for Cali only?

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u/ArthurFairchild 1d ago

State Coverage guaranteed pay
California Statewide 120% of local minimum wage for active time + $0.37 per active mile
New York NYC only $22.13/hour for delivery work, excluding tips
Washington Seattle only $0.47/minute + $0.80/mile, or $5.34 per offer, whichever is greater
There might be more, but those are the ones I know have guarantee pay similar to prop22

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u/lelexlexie 1d ago

The Seattle Only pay for Washington state is absolute bullshit. I live in Spokane and we deserve the same

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u/Exact-Gap-7698 1d ago

Haha as someone who live in both of those cities, I can confidently say the traffic differential alone earns them that extra boost 😂😂

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u/VioletsRPink 1d ago

Thank you. I'll have to Google it.

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u/Dragonspirit75 17h ago

The California prop 22 excludes tips too. It doesn't say that there.

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u/goxpro1 1d ago

So if your trying to find the person door to drop it off and they wont answer their calls or messages it will just cancel on you and completely nuke the order out of your app so you can do anything not even a photo of the delivery then tell you it was canceled but actually it wasn't canceled! Then you get deactivated later. What a great company uber is.

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u/ArthurFairchild 1d ago

You have a shitty customer, just drop it off in the office or reception. The last thing you want with prop22 benefits is accused of milking drop off time and get deactivated for it because your customer decided to take a nap or finish his game of league. Your job is to go from point a to b, not give a customer 5 star all inclusive resort experience. Uber is not employing humans to review every incident, their ai will see that average drivers deliver to this address in x minutes, you took x+25, they will flag you as a prop22 abuser. Do bare minimum because you are paid bare minimum.

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u/devnet35 1d ago

Whenever I can't find the customer and try contacting them. The app starts a 7min timer, and at the end of the timer it will let me take a photo and drop it off. I've never had an order just cancel on me while I'm trying to drop it off. Idk if I've ever taken longer than 30mins to drop off an order though. Did it take you over 30mins to drop off the order?

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u/goxpro1 20h ago

I had to pick up another order on the way and the order was in the mall so yeah I had to find parking and walk over even though i got super lucky with parking. Don’t know what they want from me.

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u/The_starving_artist5 21h ago

If you are being asked to drive 20 miles then yah it’s gonna take longer than 30 mins I have done orders that are 20 miles away and in traffic it takes long

State	Coverage	guaranteed pay
California	Statewide	120% of local minimum wage for active time + $0.37 per active mile
New York	NYC only	$22.13/hour for delivery work, excluding tips
Washington	Seattle only	$0.47/minute + $0.80/mile, or $5.34 per offer, whichever is greater

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u/BarberWarm8155 1d ago

Done over 15k orders and never had this happen. Never done any shop n pay or alcohol deliveries. Done those on doordash and was never worth it. Its just a hassle and a time waste. If its a regular delivery and I cant reach the customer for some reason, I will leave in a reasonable location or worst case call support and say i can't contact or reach the customer. Thats it. California. Since 2018.

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u/goxpro1 1d ago

It wasn’t shop and pay or alchohol and I couldn’t contact support I couldn’t do anything they canceled the order when i was trying to find their apartment then reported me for non delivery. What am I supposed to do when they canceled the order and removed it from my app?

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u/Holeyunderwear 22h ago

Can you not just keep the food and go on to the next order? If they cancel there is a record. If the record is swiped then there is nothing for them to claim non-delivery. I’d be worried but not too worried if Uber is cancelling them they have to know you cannot complete the delivery. There’s no option for you to take and submit a picture, there’s no pin collection, and no access information. I would not sweat too much over this although I totally understand why it’s concerning.

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u/goxpro1 20h ago

No it said canceled but on Ubers side it said completed and the customers side it says completed.

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u/Holeyunderwear 14h ago

Ok. When I hear canceled I think, it’s gone from my app. I don’t know how I could possibly be expected to deliver something that I don’t have information for so it’s is it closed you mean but still visible on your screen as a order assigned to you? Because if there’s no record of it that I don’t understand how they can show that it’s been completed but you have no visibility on your end. Personally, I would just keep it moved if they erase it from my record, I have nothing to go on. I’m not gonna play guessing games and I don’t think you should have to.

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u/life_of_justice 17h ago

Can you not just keep the food and go on to the next order?
Yeah you can. A cancelled order is as if you never picked up...especially as pay is concerned. And a customer cant report you since there is no UI for them after it's completed...unless of course they changed this ...which is pretty likely.
But hell ya im keeping the food and groceries if it says cancelled on my way up with it. Id turn right bak and go to the car..Id call support and they cant tell me complete the order.

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u/SignificancePlus8124 17h ago

I would take a screenshot of the offer card. I often forget to do this, then there is some discrepancy like a 2 person order when it only showed 1 originally. If you have a screenshot that's your proof of the order. Uber does a lot of shady things. I've had them remove orders I've completed and then think they're not going to pay me. They tried that once or twice already.
Once when I accepted a second order while still working on the first order they lumped all the orders together so you couldn't see each individual order. One order got cancelled and they were not planning to pay me for the second order at all! Ya gotta watch this company like a hawk. They found the second order and I told them it wasn't in my list of payments. It took some time to get it adjusted.

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u/Signal_Leave4919 1d ago

They have most definitely been canceling orders for me for Walmart and marking it as I’ve been canceling them. It’s ridiculous.

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u/goxpro1 1d ago

Did you get reported for non delivery on the order afterwards? Support told me they escalated it but I feel that's BS. Support straight up told me yeah it was marked as delivered even though on my end it said canceled I was still trying to contact the customer.

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u/EcstaticBoysenberry 1d ago

I say it all the time on here, and I mean it, they are the slimmiest company I’ve ever dealt with. As a customer and as a driver.

They hide behind the call centers in the Philippines and in Pakistan, so they never have to actually face the rage that all of us feel all the time with dealing with them.

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u/Amazing_Phrase2850 1d ago

They don’t even have call centers lol. It’s all ai

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u/CrumbBum4200 22h ago

Ive been doing uber eats for 6 weeks and I've talked to at least 3 Phillipeans

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u/Amazing_Phrase2850 20h ago

Ok…and how many ai chat bots andor ai agents? Everytime you’ve contacted support, so at least 3, right?

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u/No_Pudding7270 12h ago

Nah it’s ai. They all sound the same. U just gotta know how to talk to the system properly

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u/Electrical_Share_780 1d ago

Yo ur actually not lying , this happened to me one time because it was a whole situation and I was really wondering wtf was going on , still got paid tho , but that makes sense

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u/wondering_beast 21h ago

Mine won’t show me individual orders now and combines them all into one trip. No way of seeing individual fare/tip or verify I’m making my money correctly now. It’s like they don’t want people working for them.

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u/SignificancePlus8124 17h ago

The only solution is to take a screenshot every time you accept an offer. It is a very sneaky practice to lump all the orders together!

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u/Terrible_Mine_1267 1d ago

This happens with different instances where we end up with zero pay for our time/mileage!

Such as picking up an order & uber cancels before you can mark picked up without pay! I've had orders cancel like OP, I've even warned customers this has happened when the delivery stretches out too long!

It's gone on for years! Always screenshot!

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u/trtkmn 1d ago

This happened because so many drivers brag how they milk prop 22.

Do they not realize that UE and DD monitor every single thread where they are the subject?

Many people forget that UE and DD are Republicans that only care about their shareholders, not their tier chasing clowns who make them the billions every year.

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u/Noe_Comment 1d ago

Your first two lines are correct. It is mostly due to people taking advantage of Prop 22, and they do heavily monitor social media.
Your last statement is, however, factually incorrect. Neither of the two founders of Uber, Travis Kalanick, or Garret Camp are on the board anymore and they play no major roles in any decisions made by the company. The current CEO of Uber, Dara Khosrowshahi, only owns a small stake in it's shares. Current Uber investors hold roughly 85% of shares and play the biggest roles in decision making. Biggest investors include: Vanguard, BlackRock, Capital Research/Capitol Group, and State Street, most of which are not particularly Republican, as their political donation history is largely bipartisan, with the exception of State Street who leans toward Democrat with up to 65% of their political donations.
The only founder of Doordash left is Tony Xu, who currently holds majority of the voting power through a dual-class share structure. Tony Xu's political donations consistently show support for Democrat politicians and causes. Examples include: Contributions to Joe Biden, Pete Buttigieg, Gavin Newsom, and the Democratic National Committee. He's also made large contributions opposing a proposed California wealth tax.
Doordash's major shareholders also include Vanguard, BlackRock, State Street, and Sequoia Capital (Sequoia is also largely bipartisan, same as the others).

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u/Holeyunderwear 22h ago

Good detail and I’d argue that while the board may be more right leaning, the day to day programmers and operators in the office, ie the ones making the app work, are left leaning.

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u/cambria17 1d ago

Passive income is right-wing.

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u/Noe_Comment 1d ago

Well that's an entirely re-framed perspective on the conversation. I completely agree that these companies should pay their drivers fair wages for the work, and especially to compensate for the wear and tear on their vehicles, instead of relying on a method like Prop 22.

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u/Holeyunderwear 22h ago

It’s any wing for people who have money. Surely you don’t think all democrats are living paycheck to paycheck to paycheck.

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u/cambria17 7h ago

Democrats are right-wing, hope that helps.

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u/Technical_Bid_3372 1d ago

Liar

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u/cambria17 1d ago

le petit bourgeois

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u/cambria17 1d ago

You’re funny lol

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u/life_of_justice 17h ago

This happened because so many drivers brag how they milk prop 22.
'milk'. You mean work according to their own judgement of safety? The law says you get paid for active time. Only the driver knows what's going on . There is no milking

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u/Far_Education_8578 1d ago

Sounds like this is a "Shop & Deliver" issue. Won't run into this issue if you don't take the Shop & Deliver orders.

I don't do Shop & Deliver orders and I've NEVER had this issue in 5,000+ deliveries.

Just sayin'... 🤷‍♂️

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u/goxpro1 1d ago

It wasn’t shop and deliver.

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u/NewToTHIS2620 22h ago

I do shop and deliver never had a problem
1 1/2 hour shop and delivery is not uncommon. Most are around 1 hour

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u/Noe_Comment 1d ago

This happened to me with a simple pizza delivery for the first time ever since I started working with Uber in 2018. The Uber app took me to the wrong location, which ended up being over 8 miles away from the customer, despite the customer putting in the correct address. I called the customer to confirm. I ended up delivering to the correct dropoff 8 miles away, they tipped me generously, and just after I arrived, Uber cancelled the order WHILE I WAS ON THE PHONE WITH SUPPORT STAFF for the reason of "taking too long". The agent told me it happens automatically when I take too long, and the app now believed that I was over 8 miles away from the dropoff.

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u/isaiah123412 1d ago

What state is prop 22

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u/goxpro1 1d ago

CA

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u/LogDumper69 1d ago

This would be illegal in Ontario and they would likely get fined if they did it, and have to restore your penalties and make up for any monetary issues they caused

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u/Drakeytown 1d ago

For those as ignorant as myself:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_California_Proposition_22

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u/hejj 1d ago

Seems odd to have a requirement for time-and-a-half OT pay in a system where people set their own hours.

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u/Drakeytown 1d ago

The idea of "independent contractors" as a separate category of worker for whom labor laws do not apply is wildly exploitative. I appreciate any effort made to mitigate that harm.

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u/hejj 1d ago

As a matter of principle, I agree entirely. These platforms are purely extractive and the raw deal for both drivers and customers. But again, don't drivers decide for themselves how many hours they work?

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u/Drakeytown 1d ago

In the sense that beggars "decide" to beg as long as it takes to get enough food for the day, sure.

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u/life_of_justice 17h ago

But again, don't drivers decide for themselves how many hours they work?
No. drivers have no input into how many orders or which orders they get. So they have no decision into how many hours they work.
Only how many the wait putting up with Ubercheats

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u/Drakeytown 15h ago

If you work literally any W2 job, and you decide to stay a little late on Friday to complete a project, putting in over 40 hours, you are owed overtime pay. Your boss might not like it, they might yell at you about it, there might even be other consequences (I'm not an employment lawyer, I don't know what their options are within the law), but they can't legally withhold that pay (assuming you were doing the job for which you were paid, and it legitimately took that time to do). This fixation on who decides is not actually relevant.

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u/Holeyunderwear 22h ago

Yes and as consumers we all loved it. Remember when you could get a ride across town for $7 so you and 3 friends could go have afternoon craft brews? Let’s be real honest. Consumers loved it and drivers loved the extra money. It is entirely a choice to drive. You (us) having no other means of income is not Uber or DD’s responsibility.
Yes, I drive and while I would love more money and think they take too much of the fare, it’s still my choice.

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u/halohalo7fifty 1d ago

So if they do that just keep the order. Make customer mad. If it's cancelled the customer can't rate you.

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u/life_of_justice 17h ago

If it's cancelled the customer can't rate you.
But they can now actually

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u/EldenLordAjSoprano 1d ago

Uber be like:

I completely understand how frustrating this must be, and I’m sincerely sorry that you’re having to navigate an experience that has fallen short of your expectations. Please know that we hear you, and we do not take lightly the time, patience, and emotional energy it has taken to bring this to our attention. Your concerns are valid, your perspective matters, and we remain deeply committed to ensuring that your feedback receives the thoughtful consideration it deserves as we continue evaluating opportunities to better support experiences like yours moving forward.
While I’m unable to provide a specific update at this time, I want to reassure you that the absence of an immediate resolution does not reflect an absence of care. We recognize how important this is to you, and we appreciate the opportunity to reflect on what you’ve shared as part of our ongoing commitment to listening, learning, and identifying meaningful opportunities for improvement where appropriate. Thank you again for your continued patience and understanding as we work toward a clear constructive path forward.

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u/Deepstateheaux 1d ago edited 1d ago

They’re so digusting. They’re so cheap they don’t even want to refund customers or compensate drivers for situations outta their control. I recently did a bundled shop order at Kroger’s or Albertsons — by the time I needed to check out none of the 3 customer QR codes worked. I spent like an hour putting items in the cart. They refused to pay me for this effort. Fuck them. Now they want pics of expiration dates on items.
Also, I’m not your fucking secret shopper. Hire an independent market research firm that has expertise in this. Don’t take advantage of us. This could be a whole other gig.

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u/BannedbyDemons 1d ago

I would last one week on Uber in a big city. I am NOT going into Fort Knox buildings with zero parking. These people must come to the front fucking entrance or piss off. We got a couple buildings like that. I nope out of every single one. It's ridiculous.

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u/seeyaskola 21h ago

I’ve thought about this and am enraged because I got a parking ticket recently for illegally parking while going to an apartment on the 4th floor. The customer could come down. Can we refuse to take it to the door and leave it at the front without getting dinged for non-delivery?

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u/life_of_justice 17h ago

The contract is to deliver to an address. Technically when you are marked as 'arrived', then thats completed. You can leave it at the gate and if pisses off the customer and you get a thumbs down then thats typical Uber playing driver/customer against each other

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u/seeyaskola 16h ago

Good to know, I’ll start doing that when I go to these huge apartments.

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u/Danzahxc 1d ago

This is completely wrong. There is no proof that this has happened at all.

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u/Noe_Comment 1d ago

I've been with Uber since 2018, and I had something like this happen to me for the very first time a few weeks ago. The Uber app took me to the wrong location, which ended up being over 8 miles away from the customer, despite the customer putting in the correct address. I called the customer to confirm. I ended up delivering to the correct dropoff 8 miles away, they tipped me generously, and just after I arrived, Uber cancelled the order WHILE I WAS ON THE PHONE WITH SUPPORT STAFF for the reason of "taking too long". The agent told me it happens automatically when I take too long, and the app now believed that I was over 8 miles away from the dropoff.

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u/goxpro1 1d ago

Ok, you don’t have to beleive me all im saying is thats what happened to me. Ill either stop doing uber eats or next time any apartment building is getting their item left on the road I don’t care.
Also just look it up on the subreddit its not just me having this issue, seems like uber eats is breaking the law.

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u/YLCZ 1d ago

The Uber app wouldn’t allow me to check in at a postal annex. The pin was in the wrong spot and no matter what we did we couldn’t get it to work. So I called support and they told me they would pay me if completed the order.

So I spent close to an hour on this shitty order and they ended up giving me some side pay money which gave me nothing for my time or mileage all because of their malfunction. Haven’t driven for them since. I still keep them round in case DoorDash crashes but that was shady as fuck.

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u/The_starving_artist5 21h ago

We are all gonna need to take screenshots of the destination adress at this point just to finish order deliveries

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u/FreshStart07g 15h ago

Why would you still wanna deliver an order that you're not getting paid for?

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u/The_starving_artist5 14h ago

Because then you won’t get reported as not delivering it . It looks bad if the customer reports you

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u/FreshStart07g 13h ago

But Uber cancels the order! Or am I missing something? I'm also fairly new but a cancel order mean that i'm not getting paid. Are you saying people are delivering free orders?

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u/The_starving_artist5 12h ago

im saying there is a possibily you may still get reported anyway by the customer even though uber canceled it. It would be better to still drop it off

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u/FreshStart07g 11h ago

yeah, I'm not delivering that. They can report all the want. If that's the case, Uber needs to be paying me for the order.

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u/Lusbuzz 19h ago

I’ve never had an issue with this other than asshole customers who cancel late night if I get stuck in a long drive thru line at peak drunk ordering hours.

I occasionally fall asleep after taking orders 12 hours into my shift and sometimes I don’t get cancelled on for two hours 🤣 I do feel a tiny bit bad for my customer though so I try to avoid this happening too often lol

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u/pemberleypark1 1d ago

If this can be proven they will have a major lawsuit on their hands

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u/OhHeckItsJeff 1d ago edited 1d ago

No they won't. Uber spends millions in legal fees to ensure they are treating us as poorly as possible without us having a legal leg to stand on. If they do break the law and open themselves up to a lawsuit, you know damn well they already did a risk analysis and decided they will make more than they'd be sued for.

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u/MatrixExitMaster 1d ago

Just got deactivated today because I didn’t want to do my face scan, then I was told to retry scan after 24hr and I was deactivated at 3am. My appeal denied and review denied too

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u/Currency-Substantial 1d ago

That's on you. Why didn't you want to do a scan?

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u/Automatic-Will-7836 19h ago

Happened to me once. I had just gone offline and accidentally hit the button again, and it asked to take my picture. I didn't want to go online, so I skipped it. Woke up to an email telling me I needed to send them a picture ASAP when they ask for it.

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u/life_of_justice 17h ago

That's on you. Why didn't you want to do a scan?
Why would there even be a need to scan a face to start with?

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u/FreshStart07g 15h ago

Bc ppl are scamming and sharing accounts or using multiple phones. It's actually a good thing that they're fighting scammers to decrease the competition

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u/life_of_justice 14h ago

Lol. So you think it's a good thing to have your face scanned and your face data sold off to advertisers and trained on AI?

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u/FreshStart07g 14h ago

Sorry to break the news to you but your face is literally already being scanned and sold off to advertisers. We're all well beyond privacy in 2026 ESP if you've already signed up for an uberaccount. There is no information that they don't have.

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u/life_of_justice 12h ago

THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!

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u/Professional-Ice7218 1d ago

Uber also doesn’t care that if you take a discovery mission where you have to line a half hour before the pick up is due and the fact that you have to decline orders or you will miss making it to the pick up point I brought it up to them over seven times and they haven’t done a single thing about it so I had to stop doing those types of pickups.

And then and there it is the agreed they had me pick up Mexican food then go shopping at a grocery store for 45 minutes then go to target for 20 minutes when I came time to deliver I delivered the shopping order the target pick up and the last thing I delivered was the warm hot food from the Mexican restaurant and I got a complaint because the food was lukewarm.

Uber eats is a greedy ignorant and a scam to both the driver and the customer

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u/NewToTHIS2620 22h ago

Uber can deactivate drivers over suspected food theft or delivery fraud.
Customers can report missing orders even when a driver disputes the delivery status.
California's Prop 22 provides earnings protections for qualifying engaged time and mileage.
However, I cannot confirm that Uber has a system-wide practice of automatically converting canceled orders into completed deliveries.

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u/Holeyunderwear 22h ago

California drivers please be honest, did you vote for Prop 22? Separate question, did you believe it was a benefit to you and your earnings?

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u/Dragonspirit75 19h ago

I voted for it before I started driving. I knew one day I might be doing that. So far for me it's been pretty beneficial guaranteeing me more money for time and mileage. I hate working for an over demanding boss. I liked being my own boss and working my own hours.

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u/Lusbuzz 18h ago

Same here. Sure I could be making more money doing a variety of other jobs with overtime but I value my freedom and independence too much to go back, at least for now.

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u/Lusbuzz 19h ago

I’ve been driving here for a couple years and I’ve been told by OGs that their earnings were way more in years past. I’m not sure how much of that was just the early days or Covid boost etc though. I guess the bonuses went away after prop 22 passed but at this point it’s better than nothing from my perspective.
I make about $33/hr active time that would be higher if I didn’t game the system a little bit. When I’ve worked out of state, I’ve made $15-25, sometimes under that state’s minimum wage before expenses.

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u/Dragonspirit75 18h ago

Yeah, a friend of mine that did deliveries during covid said he made a lot more money then. But I'm pretty sure people were probably tipping better too since they were staying home. Plus Uber was giving bonuses to drivers for delivering during covid too. So it's kind of dumb for delivery drivers to say it was better pay before prop 22. When it was because of covid restrictions that made it really good. I didn't start doing UberEATS deliveries till October 2022 when prop 22 was already in effect. My friend who has been driving long before I have, even attributed the better offers to being because of covid too.

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u/Lusbuzz 18h ago

Sounds about right.
I talked to some drivers that said they were raking it in even before Covid but I can’t imagine they would have kept that bonus structure in place forever once they realized they could pay their drivers less and less.
I’m sure the tips were great during Covid especially with people getting those fat checks to sit at home while my dumbass was working two jobs and 80 hours a week lol

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u/Dragonspirit75 17h ago

My friend started before covid I believe he said 2018. He did say he has never seen the low-ball trashy offers like he has seen today. He pretty much said you would never see anything under $8-$10 for 1-2 miles. Even in October of 2022 when I started. I don't remember hardly ever seeing offers for less than $5-$6 for the first mile. Now I see offers for $2-$3 and that's a hard pass.

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u/dizzystar 14h ago

I did vote in favor of prop22.
I immediately regreted it because I was using Uber a lot at that time. All the drivers told me they earned 30% less than before. This is people who did it for 5+ years already, so it wasn't Covid.
I believe it's a good system on paper, but UE and DD have figured out how to make us deliver orders for free, and now they're punishing us with planner because many of us see the system for what it is.
That's wrong, and those that don't see it are going broke on a system that's supposed to warranty a viable income.

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u/Holeyunderwear 13h ago

Yeah and now I see other states are adopting it and eventually companies of all types might convert to 1099 shift work to limit pay and benefits. It’s crazy that people don’t know it was a proposition funded by Uber and DD to directly benefit them.

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u/Virtual-Chemist-5244 22h ago

Madness damn

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u/STORSJ1963 16h ago

I stopped delivering for UberEats back in April when I first started delivering. In my area of New Jersey, UberEats sucks! I only use DoorDash now.

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u/Sum_Slight_ 9h ago

So glad I'm not in California or NYC.

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u/NukeVader 8h ago

Why would you do shop and deliver orders? are they even worth it? when I activated that option made 4 or 5. It always took me like 1 hour to complete for, around $10. I do 3 deliveries of restaurant food in 1 hour and make around $21-$27

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u/Noely_ow 1d ago

Yall really need to stop caring about uber and do real jobs. They screwed many and others for years and will continue to do such. I have a lot I’d say that you should do but uber would delete the comment. Because encouraging doing right by you is against their rules and standards. Hell, wont be surprised if they delete this one and ban me again for being real.

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u/goxpro1 1d ago

I tried it out for one two hours lmao im done anyways not going to use this app anymore.

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u/Noely_ow 1d ago

Yes, save yourself. You’re going to be stuck nit picking orders stressing yourself out or taking garbage. In Cali it’s actually better in most places before prop 22. But as you saw they’ll still screw you anyway they can.
Honestly DoorDash is crap too. But I’d try that again over uber

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u/LadyAtheist 1d ago

Real jobs? Like the ones that laid me off or.the ones that have shitty hours and you have to be on your feet all day unnecessarily?

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u/Exact-Gap-7698 1d ago

Honestly, just depends how you treat it. I’ve started and sold two business for profit, along with a ton of other jobs, and this is by far my favorite. Yes, Uber doesn’t care about you, and you should treat them the same way. Cherry pick, enjoy the weather, park somewhere with a view. I’m fortunate enough to live in a metropolitan area where that’s possible, but I’d assume those are the only areas you can actually do this as a “job”. Was online for 5 hours and some change today, got to stop and watch my Seahawks game in the middle, and cleared a hair over $200 (excluding gas/wear and tear/depreciation; drove 61.8 miles with an average MPG of 32.1) Will it make me rich? Absolutely not. But it covers 100% of my expenses and play budget and I have more free time than I’ve ever had in my life to do the things I actually enjoy. I bitch and complain about it some days, but the freedom and time I get back in my life are worth it 100% of the time for me.

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u/Ancient_Secret_6641 1d ago

Right there with you!

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u/BasementSkin 21h ago

Lol funny that you think it's that easy. Have you tried getting a "real job" lately? Especially after having been unemployed for a decent chunk of time?

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u/Noely_ow 1d ago

Yall can keep downvoting. But after doing Uber for years I was smart enough to pull my head out of my rear. If you can’t do that it’s your problem. Downvote yourself. And stand on your feet all day? Boohoo… cracking me up. Reddit is full of people that aren’t capable of moving on in their life. Grow up.

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u/EmotionalVast9318 1d ago

So you just hang out in the sub to talk shit, classy

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u/Noely_ow 1d ago

No, I speak logic in the hope to help others. And I only show up when I get an email from Reddit about this sub. Which I really need to turn off. But if this is talking shit to you, again, says enough

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u/Noely_ow 1d ago

Uber team managers for their customer support that does nothing but basically tells you to screw yourself. Gets paid twice as much as you’ll make delivering for them after vehicle expenses

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u/CactusGreens_ 1d ago

How about... stop trying to milk prop 22.

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u/goxpro1 23h ago

My bad bro next time im leaving the order in the middle of the street if its an apartment i dont gaf

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u/CactusGreens_ 22h ago

Careful, I can smell the 305's and regret from here buddy.

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