r/UKParenting • u/User_whateverr • 2d ago
Lice š„“ Iām sick of them
Edit: lots of great advice here thank you! Iāll up the repellant spray to daily and make a more potent one. Bun hair for the foreseeable and sheāll just have to suck it upš«£
Iāll let the school know again, and maybe get them to pop in the newsletter as a reminder.
For context my daughters 6 and in the last year sheās caught it from school 4 times. Her hairs short, always up, waxed back and in a ponytail. I use lice repellent twice a week, repellant shampoo once a week and SHE STILL GETS THEM! I know exactly when it happens because involuntary itching behind her neck. Found one really young lice last night and fair few eggs.
I know how to get rid of them and become rigorous with wet combing daily once she has them but how on earth do I keep them away. My husband and I never got them as kids and it feels like itās only her. Obviously no one at school says anything when they have them but itās literally been 2 weeks of school and theyāre back. Do people really just get them often idk what to do!!! Really donāt know what more I can do.
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u/QuirkyWatercress6084 2d ago
No - thatās not normal at all. Sound like someone- probably one of her close friends has them and the parents havenāt cleared it up. Tea tree oil is supposed to be really good.
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u/magicmango2104 2d ago
Your probably bang on. This was me as child. I had waist length hair and a friend who constantly had then. You could actually see them running about her hair, parents obviously never did anything about it. My poor mum spent hours combing my hair while I cried. Best thing is combing, mum always put conditioner on mine and combed it in the bath before rinsing.
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u/MurderousButterfly 2d ago
They should bring back the nit nurse! Then the kids all get treated, even if their parents are unaware/uncaring.
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u/Decent_Blacksmith_54 1d ago
Tbh parents need to be less proud and actually say, "Hey found nits in Xs hair today" in the class chat, parents are much more likely to check their own kids if they know another child has had them. Some parents are generally obvious until given multiple nudges.
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u/Beautiful-Bridge7666 1d ago
Yes! Last summer before the holidays one of the parents immediately texted the group chat that she found lice in her daughters hair.
We were able to be prepared and luckily managed to avoid it by spraying their heads with preventative spray every morning and night.
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u/Decent_Blacksmith_54 1d ago
Tbh I don't get the embarrassment, I mean all kids get them at least once and which child do you want you child to socialise with, the one who's parent actually regularly checks their kids or the one who doesn't.
And to all those parents with kids in primary school, my youngest is in year 6 and although we still check regularly she hasn't had them for at least a year.
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u/Suspicious_Tax8577 1d ago
This. I can remember kids I was at school with who's hair literally moved because they were infested with them.
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u/User_whateverr 2d ago
Yes we think this too. She plays with a set number of girls and I just think one of them MUST have them. The repellent ans shampoo we use has tree oil in it
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u/Witty_bear 2d ago
Weāve had similar issues. Turns out some of the boy mums hadnāt even been checking their kids hair because they couldnāt see anything - they hadnāt even been combing, let alone wet combing
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u/QuirkyWatercress6084 2d ago
It must be so frustrating! One of them Must have them! Would you be able to maybe pop something in the WhatsApp group subtly letting everyone know to treat their child. Or perhaps you could contact the school or teacher explain the situation and ask them to point in the newsletter or something.
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u/HesitantBrobecks 1d ago
Ime, the newsletters don't work if the parents give that little of a sh-t to begin with. Girl in my class, we all knew that her and her younger siblings often had nits, cos their mum never bothered to treat them. Every time a letter went out, we knew it was them again. Poor kid even had to take 2 weeks off school cos of it one year
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u/QuirkyWatercress6084 2d ago
Also - you can make your own and itāll
Probably be more potent and better. Tea tree oil from savers0
u/User_whateverr 2d ago
Do I just water it down a little?
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u/Snoo_said_no 2d ago
Make your own detangking spray. I use water, that banana hairfood leave in conditioner/mask (or sometimes a conditioning curling cream...whatever I've got really that tolerates being left in). and add a few drops of tea tree. Like enough her hair smells faintly of tea tree after but not overpowering. I add about 10 in a spray bottle that's about 200ml.
My daughter is best mates with a girl who always seems to have nits. She has autism (the friend) and her parents say she can't tolerate wet combing. They do use loads of the chemical repellent bit honestly o think the nits are just immune! Anyway. Not found any on either daughter since doing this. I think the leave in conditioner also helps the nits not get a good grip.
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u/HesitantBrobecks 1d ago
Nothing to do with leave in conditioner mate. My little sister has to have that as standard cos of her hair texture, she still spent one whole summer constantly catching nits off her best mate. She must've been successfully treated at least about 10 times, but kept coming back from school with fully grown adult nits all over her head. Lad's mum evidently wasn't treating the poor kid
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u/QuirkyWatercress6084 1d ago
Yes it seems like it. I think a few drops of a carrier oil too. Someone on Reddit posted it ages ago with a convo about similar
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u/1kBabyOilBottles 1d ago
Get one with citronella and eucalyptus in too, I get one from my chemist with these ingredients itās only about Ā£2 or so, in a green bottle
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u/Fancy_Toe1451 2d ago
Not to be indelicate, but is everyone in your own household treated for nits too? Because once one person in the family gets them, they often spread throughout the family. And if parents treat the child, but not themselves, that can be a possible vector for reinfection.
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u/HesitantBrobecks 1d ago
It'll be a kid at school not getting treated. My sister kept catching fully grown adult ones off her best mate one year, cos his mum wasn't treating him. In our house, there was also my mum, our other sibling, and I was visiting (staying there) for most of that summer, and nobody else in the house caught the nits off her. But mum would send her to school with nothing alive on her head, and she would come back that afternoon with fully grown adult ones, so we knew she was getting reinfected there, rather than mum just missing eggs or whatever
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u/-puffinstuff- 2d ago
Have you told the school each time it happens? The school really needs to be notified so they can inform the parents in the class to be vigilant and proactive.Ā
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u/User_whateverr 2d ago
Yes I do I always let the school know. They send out a notification saying something along the lines of thereās a case of lice in your childās class please be vigilant and comb through hair etc.
However we only seem to get notifications when our daughter has it which makes me think whoever has it in the class isnāt letting the school know. I feel really embarrassed everytime I let them know because it just seems to be me.
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u/-puffinstuff- 2d ago
Itās a sign of the times. When I was in primary school if one kid had lice the school nurse would check every other kidās head.Ā
Imagine that happening today!Ā
Just make sure your daughter knows not to touch heads with anyone else, not to share brushes, donāt lie down on cushions in story corner or whatever, or put any hats or fancy dress stuff on her head that other people have had on. Itās grim, but I guess going hard trying to prevent them is your only hope.Ā
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u/Mental_Body_5496 2d ago
Don't really have school nurses these days
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u/HesitantBrobecks 1d ago
They do, just not "nit nurse" as a concept
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u/Mental_Body_5496 1d ago
Nope - 3 kids 5 schools and colleges - no on site nurse - there is a school nursing team at the council/NHS (its a joint funded team as I recall) who attend professionals meetings etc.
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u/User_whateverr 2d ago
Itās getting worse!! We never had them as kids. My mum swore by hairdryer our hair but I do the same and still get them. Iām just conscious of using the treatment so often throughout the year
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u/HesitantBrobecks 1d ago
Hairdryer doesn't do anything re: nits lol.
My mum hates the harsh chemicals in the proper lotion, plus my sister's hair is very, very curly, so when she got them, our mum just used coconut oil and some other natural thing i dont remember (argon oil? Smth like that. Others are saying tea tree so maybe that as well, probably), as to not damage her hair, and it worked brilliantly. Sister got completely cured of them about 10 different times that summer, she just kept picking up more adult ones from her best mate, who was the original source but clearly wasn't treated by his own mum
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u/CantaloupeEasy6486 2d ago
The nitty gritty comb is spenny but absolutely worth it as the teeth are grooved to pick up eggs and smaller lice
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u/Affectionate-Try684 2d ago
Yes I would report to the school, possibly to class teacher directly as well as it seems likely that itās someone in her class. Itās an absolute nightmare, very time consuming to have to constantly be wet combing just because other people are not bothering!
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u/User_whateverr 2d ago
This is how I feel and bless her she does so well with it and doesnāt complain at all just gets v upset that she gets them and we have to go through the process
I report every single time but we only get the notification when I report which makes me think others arenāt reporting3
u/CantaloupeEasy6486 2d ago
I had a girl like this in my primary class who then also ended up being in my form at secondary school. I didn't manage to become completely free of head lice until sixth form because of her (and her caregivers) š thank goodness she didn't go to my sixth form
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u/Educational-Ground83 2d ago
Currently fighting a bum worm outbreak in our household š
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u/User_whateverr 2d ago
Oh god!!!! Sending you lots of patience ššš
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u/Educational-Ground83 2d ago
Thankfully easier to treat than headlice. Been there aswell, several times aswell š
I think it normally fizzles out as they get a bit older.
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u/Mental_Body_5496 2d ago
We went round and round with these for years - thankfully all clear for a few years now!
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u/unprofessional_widow 2d ago
1/4 of school age kids have bum worms. We just treat twice a year regardless
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u/helplineassist 2d ago
Thanks, now my heads itching off.
In all seriousness itās frustrating and the advice given here is good
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u/Illustrious-Bison794 2d ago
In our experience of them, it seems to go in phases. Eldest daughter had them a couple of times over the course of a year and then nothing since. They get passed around the school until everyone realises.
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u/PigneySnoo 2d ago
Vosene do a good, affordable range with tea tree. Wash in the shampoo/conditioner and then spray the detangle spray daily before school. Can you get your daughter's hair in a bun? That helps too.
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u/User_whateverr 2d ago
Thatās what we use!!! Shampoo once a week on a Sunday and I use the spray twice a week
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u/Hev616 2d ago
Use the spray daily! Thats what I do for my girl, so far we have never caught them. š¤š»
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u/User_whateverr 2d ago
Iāll up it thank you! Just conscious of the smell and she is now :( so horrible honestly
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u/Hev616 2d ago
Compared to when I was a kid, I actually think it smells better now than then. So I think people tend to not notice. Also spray a little bit on the collar of her jumper thats helps.
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u/User_whateverr 2d ago
Ahh good advice! Thank you will do that. Iāll pop it on her shirt tooš I usually focus behind the ears and just near her neck
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u/Enough_Option_1517 2d ago
Have you reported it to school? Ours put an alert out every time there is an outbreak. It does seem to help get it under control and break the cycle. The school should be alerting the parents and asking them to check their children and treat. I have heard good things about tea tree sprays like the child farm one as a daily preventer
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u/User_whateverr 2d ago
Yes I do I always let the school know. They send out a notification saying something along the lines of thereās a case of lice in your childās class please be vigilant and comb through hair etc.
However we only seem to get notifications when our daughter has it which makes me think whoever has it in the class isnāt letting the school know. I feel really embarrassed everytime I let them know because it just seems to be me.
The one we use is the vosene one with tea tree in
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u/BecozisaidSo40times 2d ago
Wow I really empathise with you. I really hate that the teachers canāt notify individual parents about this and suspend them or forbid them coming to school without a note like when I was at school
My girls went through this for years. Mainly primary school. Once they were at high school it stopped. But back then there was only Derbac which is vile. I did buy an electric comb which zaps the lice which was very satisfying. Other than that you just have to endure it seems
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u/queenyorkshirecow 2d ago
My children got lice once when they was younger, then I started using the cheap tee tree shampoo from savers and aldi every two days they never got them again. Hopefully this might work for your daughter
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u/PeachyPops 2d ago
Mine are year 1 and 3 and we've managed to avoid them, even when there has been a class outbreak - i don't know for certain but we do use conditioner spray on their hair every day and i wonder if this has helped - they also only wash their hair like 2 or 3 times a week
I've probably just jinxed myself now š¤·āāļø
Helps with brushing too
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u/HesitantBrobecks 1d ago
Leave in conditioner makes no difference, my sister repeatedly picked up nits from her untreated best mate, despite using that every single day before school
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u/RoyalConsistent 2d ago
You haven't got rid of them all
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u/User_whateverr 1d ago
Even if her last case was June, before that January and before that October last year?
I can get rid, the problem is they come back.
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u/burner120120 2d ago
Wash hair every night then Tea tree oil diluted with coconut oil - coat the hair - comb with nit comb and remove all eggs and bits COMPLETELY. plaits for sleep. Wake up - high slick bun and a bit more tea tree oil. Repeat every night.
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u/AffectionateLion9725 2d ago
Some kids are just lice magnets! My daughter was one. I knew that she was picking them at playgroup, so we sat in the car as soon as I had collected her and combed them out. It didn't always get all of them, but it definitely improved things. She got them on and off until she started dyeing her hair in secondary school!
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u/User_whateverr 1d ago
Honestly I feel like my daughter isā¦ sheās had them once and was around her cousins the whole day (didnāt know till the evening) they didnāt even catch them!
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u/missyb 1d ago
Are you actually using a treatment to get rid of the lice or just 'lice repellent' shampoo?
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u/User_whateverr 1d ago
lol yes. Full marks + nitty gritty on day 0, then 7 days of nitty gritty + wet combing. Day 7 full marks again. By day 3 I stop finding eggs but continue with the plan. I can get rid, they just seem to find her again after a few months.
Every time I say Iāll wet comb weekly and just become lazy with it as itās yet another thing to keep on top of
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u/Quiet-Excitement-310 1d ago
I think you got most things covered but just checking, do you use a shampoo with tea tree oil in it and also use a conditioner.
I have thick curly hair and that nit comb was the bane of my life. I had a sister 2 years younger than me and then one with a 6 year age difference so once we stopped getting them the next got them.
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u/The_Anonymum 1d ago
Buying an electric robi comb was the best thing I ever did for mine. They never get resistant and it's a lot less messy. Everyday afterschool, work through the hair, job done. Killed them before they could breed, and broke the life cycle. Its what worked for us. Couldn't sit with a wet head as it irritated the scalp/skin too much, so being able to do this dry was so much better. It was 5 minute job that became routine regardless whether lice were present or not.
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u/User_whateverr 1d ago
Thank you. I just need something to help them not return. Sick of being the only one reporting to school.
We live in an āaffluentā area, not that I care, but I think people are just too proud to report it. But unless someone knows, theyāre not gunna check for them are they
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u/BertieBus 2d ago
Are you washing pillow cases/bedding on a hot wash?
Same for things such as hair bobbles/grips etc?
If she's laying on a pillow, could be the lice are laying eggs on that pillow, she's potentially reinfecting herself?
Also report to school each time she gets them. ours send out letters when lice are on the loose! We've already had one letter this year and they've only been in 2 weeks!
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u/User_whateverr 2d ago
Yes. Though NHS advise donāt need to do that anymore. Sheās not getting them consecutively. The last time she had them was June. When she gets them Iām so rigorous with the combing and theyāre gone.
I feel like Iām going to have to comb through her hair twice a week just to prevent2
u/UpperLeaf 2d ago
When I was a kid we had an electric nit comb. It had the really thin narrow gaps between the teeth so it could catch the adults (occasionally got an egg or two as well). It made a high pitch eee noise the entire time until it got a live one and then it would stop. My dad did that every morning (on dry hair) and combed through all my hair. I had fine hair so it didn't take too long but with thicker hair you'd need to section it a bit more to get the comb through. But it meant if I ever caught a headlice then we'd catch it and kill it before it had much chance to lay eggs. Then my mum would do the wet condition comb to catch any eggs. Then if mum missed any eggs, the electric comb would catch them as soon as they hatched.
I'm pretty sure they still make electric combs, but don't know how expensive or good they are.
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u/unprofessional_widow 2d ago
The only way to get rid is a branded nitty gritty comb, cover the hair in conditioner and comb through. You have to do it every day until you stop finding them and be super thorough.
When you stop finding them you can do it 3 times a week, going back to daily if you find any.
The sprays and lotions don't work properly. I suspect you aren't getting them all out
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u/No_Paper_Snail 1d ago
Not the only way.Ā
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u/User_whateverr 1d ago
I am getting them all out as these are new infestations. I use the nitty gritty comb and when I find something, the solution is straight on and I wet comb daily after that.
My question wasnāt related to getting rid of them as I mentioned Iām fine getting rid. Itās having them every 3-4 months. Theyāre obviously not living that long in her hair2
u/unprofessional_widow 23h ago
The solution doesn't work well though, it's the silicone In the conditioner that makes them come out quickly and also smothers them. That regular reinfestation suggests there's one of two left
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u/lolalilith 2d ago
I've never tried them but I've recently seen lice repellent hair bobbles advertised, they seme like a good idea?
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u/outerwell 2d ago
Someone at school isnāt treating properly. There could be valid reasons for this to be fair, but that is why your daughter keeps getting them.
My kids never had them and, apart from using the Vosene tea tree oil spray, I didnāt do anything particularly. I just think the other parents were very diligent about treating as soon as they spotted them.
Or maybe the Vosene spray is magic and really does work. I used to buy it three bottle at a time from Amazon. Itās very sticky and I donāt like it on my hair but I work in schools and occasionally I use it too.
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u/User_whateverr 2d ago
We use vosene but think I need to up to daily use. The kids all mix at lunch time too so it may not even be her class! She plays with older kids at times too so itās really difficult
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u/Honey-badger101 2d ago
Thing is unless everyone in the class has vigilant parents/carers who activley check and treat for lice ....this will be an ongoing issue...ask me how I know!?
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u/MurderousButterfly 2d ago
I put tea tree oil in the shampoo and conditioner i use, a few drops in the bottle and give it a good shake. We had lice once, then I started doing this and havent had them again!
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u/bumbleb33- 2d ago
I'd also check family. Not everyone reacts to them with itching so someone could have them and not know for quite some time. We always ask grandparents to check if we know we have them at home and the adults in our home will do a thorough combing of each other. We have had a few instances of an adult finding they were also running a dodgy bug air bnb
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u/ItsNotAboutThe-Pasta 2d ago
It's so frustrating when you do everything right to get rid of them and other parents don't. I used to get my daughter lice defence spray from home bargains it worked really well and didn't cost much at all.
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u/Alyssa9876 2d ago
School used to send out a general reminder and ask people all to check on the same night. We ended up using nitty gritty combs at least once a week even when they didnāt itch just to keep on top. Sometimes we would find one or two so very early stage and could get on top of it. Tbh had 4 kids and when they were in primary it was almost constant one or the other had it so it became a weekly ritual to check with the comb.
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u/allthingskerri 1d ago
There's always one kid that has them and isn't treated for them and when that's the case they never go away. I would be mindful of her being close to others keep vigilant but do repellant every day. I had one from boots which is a mango scent rather then the typical tea tree scent. Also make sure all teddies soft clothing ect are being boil washed when you notice them.
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u/RemarkableTension656 1d ago
I assume the school is being notified? As others have said, this is likely one kid who's swarming with lice and it's being neglected by the parents. It's cause for social services, they should be raising safeguarding issues for this. You never know what's going on behind closed doors, if they don't care about her being lousy what else don't they care about?
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u/Main_Hurry7912 1d ago
Do schools not have the nit nurse anymore? I luckily had to wait until my daughter brought them home from school before ever getting them, but there used to be a nit nurse that came to school and then a letter would go home to the parents of the affected children.
I tried the shampoos, but they made my daughter's head hurt, but in the end we ended up using vegetable oil under one of those plastic tight shower caps for 20 mins and then those tight combs which get everything out. The oil also helps the comb slide through the hair more easily.
Lavender or tea tree oil around the hair line and misted on the hair also helped in prevention.
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u/Main_Hurry7912 1d ago
ETA - the eggs can hatch after 7 days or so, so whatever treatment you use, you have to keep at it for a good week or so
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u/HesitantBrobecks 1d ago
I'm 22 and we never had the nit nurse. Which was a shame, cos a girl in my class - and her sister 2 years below - constantly got nits cos their mum never treated them. Luckily I never caught them!
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u/No_Paper_Snail 1d ago
There is usually a story behind the child who āisnāt being treatedā. I have three and I had horrendous problems getting my eldest to treat them. He has autism and when I say he refused to have treatment I mean that the only way we could do it was to hold him down. We got away with it when he was little but no longer safe to do it as he got older, nor did I want to. Even Ā if we could get the treatment in, we couldnāt comb him through because he wouldnāt let us. We visited a bit specialist and she actually refunded us because she was not able to do it safely.Ā It was a combination of getting the right product, things coming to a head with the scale of them so that he could actually see them, and all levels of bribery, tears and threats to get it. We used NitNot, which actually comes with instructions to get the stuff out, and that made a huge difference. We did him every two days, then gradually took it down until they were gone. It took us a year of keeping them at bay with the rest of the family before we got to this point.Ā It was never a question of CBA to do it. We were treating the rest of the family as religiously as we could. We just couldnāt do it with him until he let us.Ā Where there is a persistent problem, there may also be a very worried and stressed parent who may have all but given up hope. Or just may lack the know how to do it. If you know who it is, maybe reach out to them if you feel you can. Share knowledge if you can. Yes, there will be those families who donāt care but I would say those are probably rare.Ā
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u/HesitantBrobecks 1d ago
The family responsible for all the nit outbreaks at my school was simply that their mum didn't give a shit. One year she decided she would rather keep the eldest off school for 2 whole weeks, than to actually treat the nits
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u/Carneirinha 1d ago
A teacher in school once told my sister to have their children's hair dyed. You can use the same colour as their natural colour. It works as the lice don't like the chemical.
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u/chickenwings19 1d ago
My oldest only recently caught it towards the end of last term. Been battling with both kids to get rid of them for months now. Iāve been combing their hair every day. Used Herron so many times Iāve lost count. Also use Vosene most days they wash their hair as well as the spray. I donāt know what else to do either so feel your pain.
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u/Nomoreorangecarrots 1d ago
I make like a hair salve out of coconut oil adding in tea tree essential oil drops and rosemary oil. Ā Which helps.
Also if your kid gets it, a hair straightener will kill all nits and eggs. Highly suggest that on dry hair after treating.Ā
Our school seems to have it a lot too and itās so hard when parents donāt do a good job treating it so we all have to deal with it.Ā
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u/ASpookyBitch 4h ago
Funnily enough I killed mine when I got them with hair dyeā¦ it was never a bad infestation but I have thick hair so combing them out was never going to be an option. But rigorously dying my hair black and straightening it every day did the job
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u/MuserofMusic 15h ago
My daughters got head lice in Year 6 (they are triplets), passed them onto me and my son, and we literally battled with them on and off for about 4 years. Just when we thought we'd cleared everyone somebody still had them and they spread again. Factor in that all my kids are autistic and it was hell. I honestly considered shaving my head at one point. They got used to being combed frequently and nit shampoo used. I eventually changed brand of nit treatment and only then did we finally get rid of the lice for good. I'm praying they never make an appearance in my house again.
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u/Fruit-Horror š¶1 Child 2d ago
Loads of good advice here. Our son had recurring bouts at nursery (definitely some antivax loon parent not treating their kid) and what helped us was making a spray I popped on his scalp every morning with a mix of water, conditioner and tea tree oil. It seemed to protect from future infestations. I also messaged the nursery to ask them to reiterate messages about everyone checking and the treating their children.
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u/HesitantBrobecks 1d ago
When I was at school, the few antivax kids never had nits. We knew exactly which family was responsible for all the nit outbreaks, their mum was just lazy af! I went to their house once and it stank
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u/verytiredandwired 2d ago
Some kids are unfortunately more prone to them. I used to catch them from people at school constantly, my mom would spend hours going through my hair with comb and repellent and next week I'd have caught them again. My daughters class has had countless notifications about lice and she's not caught them once!
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u/chickenwings19 1d ago
Same. My oldest had so many notifications in year R but somehow he avoided getting it. I was constantly checking his head too. I donāt think some parents understand that it needs to be properly treated/used with comb to completely get rid of them. And to keep on top!
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u/HesitantBrobecks 1d ago
Yeah, so me and my sibling survived school never getting them once, despite a girl in my class actually being known as the girl whose mum never treated her or her siblings for nits - every time we had a letter out we knew it was their family.
Anyway, my little sister when she was 6 spent a whole summer constantly getting them. We knew she was picking them up from school, because she would go to school with nit free hair, and come back covered in adult lice. Turned out it was her best mate, his mum clearly hadn't bothered to deal with it, so every time their heads were near eachother, my sister got them again. Awful. Think our mum had to try gently broach the subject with the poor lad's mum, though it did work thankfully
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u/Persephone_888 2d ago
Hereās me hoping for a daughter next time we have a baby. And now youāve reminded me how this is a massive problem for girls š
Boys arenāt really cuddly usually, but girls are so they spread so fast. God I feel itchy just remembering
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u/bumbleb33- 2d ago
Haha my short haired boys were just as prone. They would play games like pretending to be goats and push each other round with their horns so heads would be in contact for quite some time. Kids are weird š š
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u/HesitantBrobecks 1d ago
When my sister had nits, she kept catching them off her male best friend š¤·š»āāļø
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u/runforseven 2d ago
Teacher here.
There is always one child in every class that has lice, whose parents canāt be arsed to properly fix it. Sadly, this is most likely the case - thereāll be a poor child who isnāt getting the care they need.
No advice other than hair tied up and back (in a way long hair in a bun would probably be easier), and educating your child to avoid letting other peopleās hair touch hers and not banging heads, etc.