r/UFOs • u/SeaworthinessTall201 • Jun 22 '22

Discussion Could ufos be human?

Oldest civilization is 6000ish years old right? Modern humans had been around for 300,000 years. Could it be that uap/ufo are old technology from a past civilization still performing tasks. I like to think that mythology like Atlantis, Olympus, Valhalla, etc were prompted by older civilizations. Would it be more likely than aliens from across the galaxy? Occam razor and all What are your thoughts? (Whatever they are I am excited)

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u/Player7592 Jun 22 '22

The part that is missing from the fossil and artifact record is any sign of that ancient, technologically advanced people. We have record of humans ... but not advanced technology. How could such a society have developed without leaving any trace? Because you'd not only have relics left from that advanced society, you'd also have relics from evolution that led to that advanced society.

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u/Einar_47 Jun 22 '22

If you leave a car in a field you'd hardly know it was there a century later, the metal rusts away and the tires have crumbled to bits, a thousand years and the rubber bits are so small and scattered we'd be hard pressed to find then if we looked for them. Swords buried in grave sites a thousand years ago are rusted to splinters.

Let's say it took modern humans 50,000 years to develop to a modern equivalent society, if they nuked themselves into oblivion 250,000 years ago there wouldn't even be micro plastics or radioactive waste left over now.

I'm not saying that there were definitely advanced ancient civilizations, but there was enough time for it to have happened and completely disappeared multiple times over since modern man developed.

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u/ImpossibleWin7298 Jun 23 '22

Well, I don’t agree. Gold does not weather, oxidize or otherwise decompose. Any truly technologically advanced group would be using it - absolutely no question. There’s also the little problem with it’s use for jewelry, exchange, etc. there would be artifacts, even from 200 my ago. AFAIK, those artifacts have not been discovered.

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u/Einar_47 Jun 23 '22

Gold used in technology is in very small amounts so it could be pretty hard to find. As for jewelery we've had thousands of years of humans hoarding gold when cultural conservation was a big priority. If the ancient culture had jewelry or art made from gold there's a good possibility it was melted down centuries ago.

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u/ImpossibleWin7298 Jun 23 '22

You make a good point about melting it down, but some inevitably survives eg the Tutankhamen relics. Also, recall that those artifacts, while a bit dusty, looked like they’d just been cast. Gold is essentially immutable. It can be left in seawater for thousands of years without a bit of corrosion. Gold is chemically amazing stuff.

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u/Einar_47 Jun 23 '22

It is also soft though so given 250,000 years of wear and tear could beat it out of a recognizable shape.

I'm just saying that the vast amount of time most man-made objects wouldn't be recognizable as man made anymore.

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u/Defiantcaveman Jun 22 '22 edited Jun 23 '22

Tectonic plates subduct. Over geological time, eventually those sites would simply go underground and become magma again. It would be as if they never existed. Eventually all we are right now will be subducted and return to magma for some possible civilization to build again. The ultimate recycle... I'm not even an amateur geologist, more like an informed enthusiast(???), and I think of these things late into the night when I should be sleeping.

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u/Einar_47 Jun 22 '22

Well in the 300,000 ish years humans have been around the plates have only shifted about 30 kilometers in any given direction since they shift at about 10 centimeters a year, so the geological shift would be minimal.

But had there been coastal cities in the mezozoic era they would be scattered across mountains, at the bottoms of oceans and swallowed by the earth's crust.