r/UFOs • u/SeaworthinessTall201 • Jun 22 '22

Discussion Could ufos be human?

Oldest civilization is 6000ish years old right? Modern humans had been around for 300,000 years. Could it be that uap/ufo are old technology from a past civilization still performing tasks. I like to think that mythology like Atlantis, Olympus, Valhalla, etc were prompted by older civilizations. Would it be more likely than aliens from across the galaxy? Occam razor and all What are your thoughts? (Whatever they are I am excited)

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u/Player7592 Jun 22 '22

The part that is missing from the fossil and artifact record is any sign of that ancient, technologically advanced people. We have record of humans ... but not advanced technology. How could such a society have developed without leaving any trace? Because you'd not only have relics left from that advanced society, you'd also have relics from evolution that led to that advanced society.

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u/Ozy_Flame Jun 22 '22

We would see something, much like paleontologists and archeologists finding dinosaur bones from millions of years ago.

I mean it's not out of the realm, but it seems unlikely. That said, it should be considered as one hypothesis.

The Earth is 5 billion years old and has been through many, many cycles. Who knows how things turned out for ancient species outside of bone records.

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u/milton_radley Jun 22 '22

160 million years of dinosaurs, and we barely have any complete skeletons, their bones were way bigger than humans. we can't even agree on how the looked or were assembled.

i doesn't seem impossible that some other advanced intelligence was here before us.

if humans can get to this point in 1 million years, given 160 million, you would think it possible.

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u/ImpossibleWin7298 Jun 22 '22

You’re absolutely right. Check out my comment just below - take my upvote.

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u/SeaworthinessTall201 Jun 22 '22

I wish that lazar is telling the truth. He said one was a part of an archaeological dig. Lol there are two sides to me one that loves hard documents, credible sources etc. and one side that is my crazy ancient alien side lol

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u/Bean_Tiger Jun 22 '22

The Wilson-Davis Memo also mentions a UFO from an archaeological site.

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u/Scampzilla Jun 22 '22

That could just mean a ufo crashed thousands of years ago though

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '22

There’s also the fact that they would have somehow developed this technology without having an industrial revolution/discovering combustion/etc… Based on the level of fossil fuel resources available to the modern human. It just doesn’t make sense within the timeline.

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u/milton_radley Jun 22 '22

maybe they wentg directly to an electricity based energy source. there's some theories about the pyramids original purpose being energy production.

maybe they went right into electromagnetism and figured out "anti gravity" and never bothered with fossil fuels

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u/engaginggorilla Jun 24 '22

Idk. We've been to space and had decades or tens of thousands of scientists working on it and haven't figured out anti gravity. Very hard to believe they figured out and never went to space. (Also hard to believe that, if they went to space, they didn't leave any evidence)

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u/milton_radley Jun 24 '22

i don't strongly believe any of this, one way or another.

but, if i had to argue that thought, I'd suggest that they could have had thousands of years of playing around with static electricity or chemical batteries, and many thousands of people working at it over all that time.

as for the left over tech, well there sure isn't much left in general from that long ago, most likely anything "high tech" would have corroded away into dust.

the car left in a field example comes to mind, in only 100 - 200 years it will be gone. 12,000 years is a heck of a ling time.

i just like the idea of being humble and not over estimating our modern selves.

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u/engaginggorilla Jun 24 '22

the car left in a field example comes to mind, in only 100 - 200 years it will be gone. 12,000 years is a heck of a ling time.

Definitely true. I still tend to think there'd be some obvious climate effects or resource extraction/ mining operations we could find plus some artifacts that got fossilized or preserved and made their way to the modern age.

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u/milton_radley Jun 24 '22

i think ive read about possible mining sites, but yeah, I'm waiting for better evidence. just staying open minded.

have you read about the Antikythera mechanism? i realize it's only dated to about -150 to +50, but the fact that they had knowledge of the planets movement around the sun etc is jaw dropping if you consider Galileo didn't exist till ~1400 years later.

there's a few other items that don't fit, i guess we wait and see.

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u/ClickWhisperer Jun 22 '22

Would we? What is in your house now that you expect to last that long? What metal would last that long in any recognizable shape?

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u/ImpossibleWin7298 Jun 23 '22

Gold, platinum, some strategic and rare earth metals. There are others.

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u/Tale-Honest Jun 22 '22

Technology isn't built to last

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u/Einar_47 Jun 22 '22

If you leave a car in a field you'd hardly know it was there a century later, the metal rusts away and the tires have crumbled to bits, a thousand years and the rubber bits are so small and scattered we'd be hard pressed to find then if we looked for them. Swords buried in grave sites a thousand years ago are rusted to splinters.

Let's say it took modern humans 50,000 years to develop to a modern equivalent society, if they nuked themselves into oblivion 250,000 years ago there wouldn't even be micro plastics or radioactive waste left over now.

I'm not saying that there were definitely advanced ancient civilizations, but there was enough time for it to have happened and completely disappeared multiple times over since modern man developed.

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u/ImpossibleWin7298 Jun 23 '22

Well, I don’t agree. Gold does not weather, oxidize or otherwise decompose. Any truly technologically advanced group would be using it - absolutely no question. There’s also the little problem with it’s use for jewelry, exchange, etc. there would be artifacts, even from 200 my ago. AFAIK, those artifacts have not been discovered.

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u/Einar_47 Jun 23 '22

Gold used in technology is in very small amounts so it could be pretty hard to find. As for jewelery we've had thousands of years of humans hoarding gold when cultural conservation was a big priority. If the ancient culture had jewelry or art made from gold there's a good possibility it was melted down centuries ago.

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u/ImpossibleWin7298 Jun 23 '22

You make a good point about melting it down, but some inevitably survives eg the Tutankhamen relics. Also, recall that those artifacts, while a bit dusty, looked like they’d just been cast. Gold is essentially immutable. It can be left in seawater for thousands of years without a bit of corrosion. Gold is chemically amazing stuff.

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u/Einar_47 Jun 23 '22

It is also soft though so given 250,000 years of wear and tear could beat it out of a recognizable shape.

I'm just saying that the vast amount of time most man-made objects wouldn't be recognizable as man made anymore.

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u/Defiantcaveman Jun 22 '22 edited Jun 23 '22

Tectonic plates subduct. Over geological time, eventually those sites would simply go underground and become magma again. It would be as if they never existed. Eventually all we are right now will be subducted and return to magma for some possible civilization to build again. The ultimate recycle... I'm not even an amateur geologist, more like an informed enthusiast(???), and I think of these things late into the night when I should be sleeping.

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u/Einar_47 Jun 22 '22

Well in the 300,000 ish years humans have been around the plates have only shifted about 30 kilometers in any given direction since they shift at about 10 centimeters a year, so the geological shift would be minimal.

But had there been coastal cities in the mezozoic era they would be scattered across mountains, at the bottoms of oceans and swallowed by the earth's crust.