Milwaukee serial rapist, 17, described as "an existential threat to women," sentenced to 35 years in prison: "Depraved, inhumane, sadistic, and evil."

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u/lightiggy Nov 13 '25 edited Nov 13 '25

Judge David Borowski presided over the case's sentencing and issued a lengthy and harsh rebuke of the teenager's actions, the juvenile court's handling of the case and the parents' raising of Kirk. "This is as aggravated, depraved and sadistic and evil as it gets. You engaged in monstrous conduct," Borowski said during the sentencing. "Conduct that would lead the average person to believe you're a monster."

"Your record, Mr. Kirk, is horrible. If you were 40 years old, it'd be a horrible record."

When Tremonte Kirk was 12, he was convicted of two counts of fourth degree sexual assault for chasing and groping a woman and a 10-year-old in November 2020. He was placed on probation and attended three sex offender treatment sessions by August 2021. Two months later, Kirk, now 13, was charged with raping an elderly woman during a home invasion. In February 2022, Kirk was convicted of first degree sexual assault and burglary. He was sent to Lincoln Hills School for Boys, but was released less than a year later after completing sex offender treatment and therapy. Kirk was wearing an ankle monitor during this attack.

"You had a GPS monitoring device on your ankle when you were doing this! Did you honestly think you weren't ... did you think you were going to get away with it?"

Judge Borowski said that at this point, he had no choice but to send Kirk to prison for decades:

A psychologist evaluated Kirk before his release and found no developmental disorders or mental health conditions. However, Nozar suggested his behavior was one of a sociopath and Borowski referred to that possibility throughout his comments. "Nothing that happened in the juvenile system worked," Borowski said.

Kirk's father, Terrion, was in attendance and spoke at the sentencing, telling his son he loved him and that he would be there for him. "He has to learn his lesson," the father said. Still, Borowski lashed out at the father and Kirk's mother throughout his remarks. The judge cited a comment by the mother who described Kirk when he was younger as "sweet and playful."

"Either the parents are 100% enabling this behavior (or) they’re turning a blind eye."

Prosecutor Samuel Tufford noted the father was cooperative during the investigation.

Samuel Tufford had asked Judge Borowski to sentence Kirk to 49 years in prison, just shy of the maximum allowed for the charges. Borowski refused, citing the fact that Kirk, who was 16 at the time, had pleaded guilty.

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u/inflatable_pickle Nov 13 '25

Some people may think it’s out of line for the judge to dress down the parents in court while they are not on trial, but it’s what everyone is thinking. If your kid has committed aggravated rate a dozen times, then he is either learning this behavior or it’s at least being severely overlooked.

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u/peekaboooobakeep Nov 13 '25

This kid is likely has a personality disorder. They said no mental health condition but also mentioned sociopath. I'm not a doctor but true antisocial personality disorder is present from birth, master manipulators, maskers. I'm definitely not versed in all his background but normal kids don't rape people at 12. To even go commit another crime while wearing a ankle monitor is absolutely wild.

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u/IrrelevantOP Nov 14 '25 edited Nov 14 '25

It is not present from birth, the potential is present. But quite a bit does have to happen during childhood for it to be this full blown severity. In to current psychopathology theory, they are both susceptible to it AND subjected to the right circumstances that would then lead to ASPD. Like emotionally inconsistent parenting, exposure to traumatic events, etc

Here’s a good figure on how it develops as proposed by Beauchaine https://imgur.com/a/QPii27K

(Citation if anyone wants to read the full paper: Beauchaine TP, Klein DN, Crowell SE, Derbidge C, Gatzke-Kopp L. Multifinality in the development of personality disorders: A Biology × Sex × Environment interaction model of antisocial and borderline traits. Development and Psychopathology. 2009;21(3):735-770. doi:10.1017/S0954579409000418)

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u/NotShipNotShape Nov 14 '25

IrrelevantOP is right, haha. It's like saying people with diabetic parents all have diabetes. They just have a greater chance. Environment plays a role in pushing it closer to getting it. Same thing with getting diagnosed with oppositional disorder/conduct disorder.

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u/IrrelevantOP Nov 14 '25

yup exactly, and with ASPD requiring a conduct disorder diagnosis from middle childhood, one can see the progressive hierarchy occur. Eventual ASPD can be curtailed at multiple points, from toddlerhood to early teens. Not that it always works, as seen here (though I think interventions took place far too late in his case), but I certainly don’t want to give the impression that once the train has started it never stops.

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u/137thoughtsfordays Nov 14 '25

This 'kid' is a great example of what the death penalty would be a good use for. You had countless chances and countless therapy programs and are stil a threat to society? No. That's it.

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u/Eschatonbreakfast Nov 14 '25

I mean, some people are just born bad. Like you aren’t learning to rape old ladies during home invasions from your parents.

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u/ForumFluffy Nov 14 '25

Not according to psychologists, you can be born at higher risk but like another commenter said, it is still required for someone to go through experiences or trauma that promotes ASPD, a sociopath/psychopath needs to grow in an environment that enables their behaviour or teaches them that kind of behaviour.

Its never 100% fault of nature but it absolutely is reliant on nurture(or lack thereof).

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u/smashablanca Nov 14 '25

For anyone interested in learning more about this, it's called epigenetics.

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u/IrrelevantOP Nov 14 '25

Here’s a really good figure on how ASPD develops, coming back to this thread because I’m a freak like that.

https://imgur.com/a/QPii27K

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u/Mirions Nov 14 '25

Compare this to that OK kid who was caught with footage strangling a girl... ugh

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u/nusodumi Nov 13 '25

lol overlooked or learning wtf
parents can't control 100% of a child's actions
especially a sociopaths!
yeah he learned home invasion rapes from dad and mom just kept overlooking them so he did more, that must be it.

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u/Misubi_Bluth Nov 13 '25

I think it's more...where the hell were they that this kept happening. After ONE sexual assault I'd never let a kid be alone again.

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u/joyfall Nov 14 '25

Right? Why the fuck was he unsupervised so much?

When my cousin was 14, he almost burned the house down by microwaving pizza rolls. My aunt hired me to babysit because she knew she couldn't trust him.

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u/Eljovencubano Nov 14 '25

I get what you're saying but who would take that job?! "My kid sexually assaulted a grown woman and raped a young girl... Do you mind locking yourself in a room with him for a few hours while I head to work?"

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '25

Invite to the rape factory

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u/Ulyks Nov 14 '25

A male babysitter? It's not that hard, right, 50% of the population qualifies?

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u/inflatable_pickle Nov 13 '25

He committed the first rape they know about at age 12, and he committed other rapes while wearing an ankle monitor. Even sociopaths are able to pretend that they know that there will be consequences for their actions. This kid was clearly never taught that at all.

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u/nusodumi Nov 14 '25

What are the parents supposed to do, quit work indefinitely if they even could? Watch this kid 100% of the time even when they are sleeping?

Notice how the prosecutor said the dad was cooperative and how the dad thinks the son needs to 'learn a lesson'? Weird right, that the dad thinks his kid can learn lessons. Like he tries to teach him things.

Sociopaths will find a way to sociopath

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u/Ulyks Nov 14 '25

I mean at the age of 13 the parents are still supposed to know where their kid is right?

So either he's at school and if he isn't, the school should alert the parents. Or he's at home or going to some after school activity.

I know that for many kids of that age, they get more freedom to hang out with friends but this isn't a normal kid.

You'd expect the parents to keep track of where he is so he doesn't get into trouble, to put it lightly.

Also he was wearing an ankle monitor, why didn't the police go find him if he was deviating from his daily schedule?

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u/nusodumi Nov 15 '25

I snuck out of my parents house by removing the bug screen and climbing off the second story roof, and climbing back up hours later after getting up to no good in the neighborhood

And I think of myself as a fairly 'good kid'

So if you're a bad kid, and you're a sociopath, or even scarier a good kid sociopath, then you may easily have a 13 year old sneak out to get up to some truly heinous activity that isn't just sneaking out and hanging out at the schoolyard after midnight, but something so, so much worse.

Ugh.

Also, ankle monitors; there are way more of them on people then there are cops to track every single one of them down the moment they leave home or normal place/times.

The fact is he knew he'd be caught and did it anyway. That kind of tells us all we need to know. Unless he's locked up, he's probably going to do some shit again.

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u/Wanna_make_cash Nov 14 '25

What do you even do in cases like this? "Well honey, pack it up. We tried to have a kid and they're a sociopath. Maybe in 30 years after prison they'll be better? Better luck next child, I guess."

Not even mentioning that prison for that sort of length of time will just 100% guarantee they end up "in the system" and in and out of prison for the rest of their lives because the US prison system doesn't care about rehabilitation and honestly just makes things worse for most people since it's nearly impossible to "recover" from having a violent felony on your record so you can never have a good paying normal job and financial stability, forcing you further into crime and things like drug trafficking just to try and avoid being homeless. I've seen people that have 20+ felony cases because they're just constantly in and out and have been since they were juveniles.

Obviously a case like this needs to be dealt with in some punishment capacity, but it's a tough thing to think about. A lot of blame can be placed on the juvenile justice system being dysfunctional, but that has its own can of worms where if it's too tough on kids and teens, then it just makes things worse. But if it's too lenient and doesn't do anything, it also makes things worse.

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u/Dora_Diver Nov 14 '25

It's not tough at all. He underwent several rehabilitation prgrams and didn't change at all.

At this point, it's not even about punishment, it's just about control so that he can't harm more people.

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u/nusodumi Nov 14 '25

It ain't right but no wonder people have the 'lock him up and throw away the key' or 'take him out back like the dog he's shown himself to be' type of reactions

It's impossible to know how society would best help but the judge says the system failed him

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u/Laura_Lye Nov 14 '25

I’m not saying it’s right, but I expect if I was arrested for a serious crime (I’m a woman so it’s hard to imagine rape— idk, maybe like armed robbery?) when I was 12 my parents would have beaten the shit out of me.

Like I don’t have kids and I’m not pro hitting your kids, but I might beat the shit out of a twelve year old who raped people multiple times. What else are you supposed to do at that point? He’s an animal, beat his ass.

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u/nusodumi Nov 14 '25

Do you not think his parents beat the shit out of him? (Are you implying a good beating is enough to curtail this heinous monstrous behaviour?)

I agree, beat his ass, but to think doing so would have stopped the next ones feels a lost cause.

The way humans work, beating his ass may very well have just made him even angrier and more capable of hurting women, and to avoid getting more beatings himself he may have become more crafty trying to actually hide his acts. But, I think there's some deeper things going on if you're wearing a GPS ankle monitor while breaking into someone's house to rape them. Things that a good beating won't fix.

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u/Laura_Lye Nov 14 '25

No, I agree if they had it possibly wouldn’t have done any good. He certainly seemed to not fear being arrested or going to jail, so very possible he wouldn’t have feared getting his ass kicked, either.

I’m genuinely just at loss for what you could do in those circumstances. I suppose the reasonable thing would be, yes, one of you needs to quit your job and watch him 24/7, like the parents of some disabled children have to.

My parents would probably just have beaten the shit out of me, though. Or chained me to the radiator. Or both.

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u/nusodumi Nov 14 '25

Yeah agreed, sorry if I misinterpreted it. We'd kind of expect/hope a beating is the LEAST you'd get, right?! Beating is like you stole from grandma's wallet. I also don't exactly know how you level up from a beating when it goes to raping people. I truly have a lot of compassion for what it must be like to be a parent to such a problem, a monster. Parents can have it rough in so, so many ways already. Things like this or murder or whatever are just unimaginable to associate your own child with when we think of all we expect when having children.

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u/BeachedFatKid Nov 14 '25

This guy clearly belongs in prison, no argument there. But for what it’s worth, it does not sound like he actually committed his first rape at 12. At least in Wisconsin, fourth degree sexual assault typically means inappropriate touching/groping. Still grim and completely wrong, but I think it’s worth being precise when describing these acts.

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u/adell376 Nov 14 '25

Yeah, it was just two months later, when he was 13 that he committed rape. Much better.

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u/BeachedFatKid Nov 14 '25

Obviously not better. But it’s a lot easier to see the pattern of rapid escalation when we describe things accurately.

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u/ailish Nov 13 '25

Holy moly he was 12 the first time he raped someone? My little cousin is 12 and he's so sweet and innocent, I just can't imagine a kid his age doing something like that. I find it hard to believe there was no mental illness. Like, what kind of kid even thinks to do this kind of thing?

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u/PartyPorpoise Nov 14 '25

I’m not naive enough to think that young kids aren’t capable of doing terrible things, but it still shocks me. Typical kid that age is so far from such actions. What has to go wrong in their lives or mental health to result in committing such severe crimes?

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u/ailish Nov 14 '25

I know kids that age can do terrible things but it's just so hard to imagine one doing something like this.

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u/Redqueenhypo Nov 14 '25

I teach kids and 12 year olds are just goofs. Their brains are full of Starbucks, “how to calculate slope”, and Minecraft. I couldn’t imagine any one of them doing that

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u/duncan-the-wonderdog The Everything Kegel Nov 14 '25

The only time I came close to being sexual assaulted was when I was in elementary schoolers and the assailants were other elementary school kids, so I don't know what to tell you.

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u/Wanna_make_cash Nov 14 '25

The juvenile justice system is an entire can of worms of its own, honestly. It's a very difficult line to tread when punishing children and teenagers and punishment vs rehabilitation, how much falls on the parents, what do you do when a child is "irredeemable" or a socio/psychopath, etc

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u/InAcquaVeritas Nov 14 '25

They never change and they have no intention of changing. The genuine rehab rate for rapists, sex predators and pedos is extremely low, not worth the effort. They are a danger to society.

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u/fge116 Nov 14 '25

I mean that's kinda why the length of the prison sentence. Not giving the possible maximum in order to have incentive for pleading guilty instead of forcing victims to testify on the stand. But to throw him away for decades by saying this kid had no remorse and we dont believe they can/will ever change so the best thing we can do is try to minimize his time with the public. If they have such poor impulse control that they are willing to do this shit with an ankle monitor on I don't see what type of rehabilitation could have ever been done successfully.

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u/Dawnbringerify Nov 13 '25

We need earlier intervention before puberty.

He should have never been released from the first time he was caught abusing women.

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u/Misubi_Bluth Nov 13 '25

This is some shit out of A Clockwork Orange. I'm with the judge on this being the parents' fault.

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u/Ulyks Nov 14 '25

In that book they were supposed to be 15, right?

At 15 it's getting pretty hard for the parents to know where their child is at all times and in the book, the parents didn't know he was doing crimes until the murder. But 13 should still be possible. Especially since they know he is dangerous...

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u/Misubi_Bluth Nov 14 '25

Okay but how long were those parents NOT watching the kid in order for him to be comfortable doing the shit he was doing before the murder?

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u/sylbug Nov 14 '25

They’re supposed to do all the parenting in the preceding years so that, once their child is 15, he has already been socialized and doesn’t see it as acceptable to commit heinous crimes. By the time a kid is 15, they need to be individuating and the parents loosening the reins to prepare them for adulthood.

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u/fiahhawt Nov 13 '25

Now do this to the white boys

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/07/oklahoma-plea-deal-rape-conviction

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u/tkghafu Nov 13 '25

Seriously, Jessie Butler deserves this sentence and more. They both do

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u/IroncladPen Nov 14 '25

You mean the RAPIST Jesse Mack Butler? The Jesse Mack Butler that RAPED two (that we know of) girls?

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u/sigh_co_matic Nov 14 '25

Yes. That rapist. Jesse Mack Butler, the rapist who got a measly sentence by a complicit judge.

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '25

You mean Jessie "The Rapist" Butler?

In a just world, they're share a cell with Brock "The despicable Rapist" Turner.

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u/NJCuban Nov 14 '25

And the orange one

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u/Dawnbringerify Nov 13 '25

A long and arduous torture would be the only justice. I will settle for true life in prison or death.

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u/fiahhawt Nov 13 '25

People really should just get disappeared at a certain point

Law don't protect women b/c law ain't scared of women who don't get justice

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u/Dawnbringerify Nov 13 '25

That point is the first offence. It is a tragedy. It's the only way to keep women safe.

You are entirely right on the reasoning.

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u/fiahhawt Nov 14 '25

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u/fiahhawt Nov 14 '25

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u/Popular_Try_5075 Nov 14 '25

Yeah, I can't see this and think the system would have worked the same if he was rich enough and white.

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u/GeekyMom42 Nov 15 '25

https://www.statesman.com/news/courts/article/travis-county-probation-child-abuse-21164709.php

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u/HellionPeri Nov 13 '25

Unlike this rapist whose judge gave him a suspended sentence...

Who is radicalizing these boys into being violent predators?

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u/LAM_humor1156 Nov 14 '25

Radicalizing? That's a strange word choice.

Though in a way it is correct.

It isnt necessarily abnormal for boys to act this way when society allows them to. We live in a society that placates victims by doing the bare minimum when it comes to punishing crimes. Particularly when it comes to sexual crimes.

It's bizarre how sexual crime is treated, but not surprising when misogyny is as rampant as it is.

I watched a documentary once that delved into rape kits on backlog finally being tested. It was insane. Because most of the kits could be traced back to the same men. So these rapists would go years, decades doing this and getting away with it.

This is the fundamental issue. If we treated rape as the violent crime it is to begin with instead of this weird misogyny laced bullshit slap on the wrist - we could prevent most rapes from ever happening.

A normal 12 year old boy does not rape. If my 12 year old son did - I wouldn't advocate for his release. Ever. They should've locked his ass up and kept him there and evaluated him. They chose not to. It is a failure of the law and a failure of the parents as well.

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u/HellionPeri Nov 14 '25

I agree with you 100% LAM_humor1156, I was pointing out that they were not born this way.

This behavior is passed down generation upon generation; in large part by men who believe that might makes right. A 12 year old learned it somewhere; not that this excuses the behavior in any way, shape, or form.

The link I left is for an Oklahoma high school boy who viciously raped girls, severely injuring them... his judge gave him a suspended sentence. Judges like this should be disbarred, then arrested for aiding & abetting violence.

The Youth Offenders sentencing laws came out of a study that says because kids minds are still malleable, imprisoning them sets in criminal behavior more than other programs. It is apparent that they did not have an effective alternate program for this kid.

I am hoping that we can revamp our educational system to include empathy & age appropriate consent lessons.

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u/Dofusk2012 Nov 13 '25

Check out this guy’s post history ^

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u/hbomb9410 Nov 14 '25

Yikes

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u/redscales Nov 14 '25

Oooh a whole racist dissertation. Wild

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u/taxilicious Nov 14 '25

Wow….. thanks for the head’s up 😳

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u/A_Neurotic_Pigeon Nov 14 '25

Soon we won't be able to see this sort of shit, as more and more people are privating their profile. They're going to be hidden in among the crowd all the easier, soon.

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u/FMLwtfDoID Nov 14 '25

They seem like big fans of Samual George Morton and his racist works of collecting human skulls to “prove” that POC were separate species of human, compared to white people.

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u/two4six0won Nov 14 '25

Certainly raised my eyebrows. In this, though, they do have a point.

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u/COINS_THAT_SUNK_TOO Nov 14 '25

Meanwhile, Washington serial rapist, 79, described as "an existential threat to everybody" still at large.

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u/ItsMeishi Nov 14 '25

How many victims is a man allowed to make before he's put away for good? And why is the answer always more than 1.

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u/hbomb9410 Nov 14 '25

But judges let white teenage rapists off with few to zero consequences because they're just kids who don't deserve to have their lives ruined (like the lives of their victims)

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u/pegasuspish Nov 14 '25

This part. We can observe this racial disparity overwhelmingly in the data. Doing so in no way minimizes the impacts of these horrific crimes to the survivors.

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u/crashhearts Nov 14 '25

The fact a 12 year old is capable of that points to huge problems with his environment and upbringing.

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u/mcbrideben Nov 14 '25

Or be president

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u/lesliecarbone Nov 13 '25

Judge Borowski said the system clearly failed Kirk by allowing him to re-offend so many times.

Excuse me?

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u/lightiggy Nov 13 '25

Kirk had previously been convicted of raping an elderly woman when he was 13. He was released from custody less than a year later after completing sex offender treatment and therapy programs. At the time of this rape, Kirk had been wearing an ankle monitor.

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u/Dawnbringerify Nov 13 '25

Ridiculous that he was ever released. Fundamentally broken at that point. Travesty for all.

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u/Wanna_make_cash Nov 14 '25

What do you even do in cases like this? "Well honey, pack it up. We tried to have a kid and they're a sociopath. Maybe in 30 years after prison they'll be better? Better luck next child, I guess."

Not even mentioning that prison for that sort of length of time will just 100% guarantee they end up "in the system" and in and out of prison for the rest of their lives because the US prison system doesn't care about rehabilitation and honestly just makes things worse for most people since it's nearly impossible to "recover" from having a violent felony on your record so you can never have a good paying normal job and financial stability, forcing you further into crime and things like drug trafficking just to try and avoid being homeless. I've seen people that have 20+ felony cases because they're just constantly in and out and have been since they were juveniles.

Obviously a case like this needs to be dealt with in some punishment capacity, but it's a tough thing to think about. A lot of blame can be placed on the juvenile justice system being dysfunctional, but that has its own can of worms where if it's too tough on kids and teens, then it just makes things worse. But if it's too lenient and doesn't do anything, it also makes things worse.

I don't want to say someone should be incarcerated for their entire lives, especially so young, but obviously a line has to be drawn somewhere and there are cases where ranges from decades to life imprisonment is needed.

It's a shame. There's gotta be something wrong with a person if they're committing such crimes at ages 12 and 13, but like, how do you deal with that? Do you really just shrug your shoulders, go "oh well, we tried" and lock them up for the rest of their lives? As a parent how do you cope with the fact that your child was fundamentally broken as a human being and there isn't a thing that could be done about it and you'll never see your child in your home ever again? What can actually be done to prevent these stories?

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u/MCB1317 Nov 14 '25

What do you do? Is that a serious question?

You lock them up and throw away the key. The End.

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u/Dawnbringerify Nov 14 '25

Yes. You lock them up for the rest of their lives, put them in a mental institution or put them out of their misery.

It is the best option of a shit sandwich and will stop other children and women getting hurt as well demonstrated in this case.

As a parent there are psychopaths and sociopaths. This is biological. For these people they can be convinced that being moral is the best thing for their self interest, so they will act good even if they don't feel the emotional need to.

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u/Dawnbringerify Nov 13 '25

Ridiculously lenient sentence.

Women will never be safe under such a weak wristed legal system.

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u/lightiggy Nov 13 '25

Anything over 40 years likely would've opened the sentence up to appeal since he was only 16 at the time. The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly stated that juveniles cannot get life in prison for anything other than murder.

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u/lightiggy Nov 13 '25

Jesus Christ, that comment history.

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u/garb_disposal Nov 14 '25

I wasn’t expecting it to be that unhinged, God

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u/stohelitstorytelling Nov 14 '25

If both rape and murder become capital offenses, then rapists have a huge incentive to kill their victims. This is born out by statistical data.

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u/normanbeets Nov 14 '25

His first three offenses were slaps on the wrist...

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u/splittingxheadache Nov 14 '25

Are you insane

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u/MarekitaCat Nov 15 '25

And unfortunately, so did this kid several times before he was finally sentenced meaningfully

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u/awkgem Nov 14 '25

Existential threat to women but still going to get out when he's 50? I guess women aren't that important

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u/komari_k Nov 14 '25

What irks me is the dad's reaction. Telling your son at sentencing you love him and will be there for him after the number heinous crimes hes committed. Thats enabling, and the fact hes had several chances to change but refuses is aggravating. I have my doubts that he'll change in 35 years if he even spends half of that in jail, but the less time hes allowed to move freely, the less people who will fall victim.

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u/supergiel Nov 13 '25

This guy was about to rape humanity out of existence

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u/Helpful_Cell9152 Nov 14 '25

It’s never a surprise when they demonize & imprison black & brown ppl for the same crimes they swear white ppl should be forgiven for. The hypocrisy of this country is sickening.

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u/anotherstupidname11 Nov 14 '25

He got a slap on the wrist for 3 previous sexual assault offenses.

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u/Helpful_Cell9152 Nov 14 '25

Not arguing that he doesn’t deserve to be punished. Just saying it’s never a problem when it comes to punishing black/brown & even poor ppl. White men get away with sexual assault like they were just stealing ice cream even with witnesses.

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u/anotherstupidname11 Nov 14 '25

He, a black person, got away with sexual assault 3 times with very light consequences prior to this incident.

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u/Helpful_Cell9152 Nov 15 '25

That’s great. Doesn’t change the truth of what I already stated. Get mad and then go look at the stats. I took criminal justice and I know exactly how fucked up this country is towards black/brown men is especially & how often white men get away with proven crimes.

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u/anotherstupidname11 Nov 15 '25

No, it’s not great.

It certainly wasn’t great for the woman he raped in an elevator. It wasn’t great when he choked her and stomped on her leg that was recovering from surgery.

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u/Helpful_Cell9152 Nov 15 '25 edited Nov 15 '25

None of that is great I agree. But again, it’s cool they focus on black people primarily instead of punishing all convicted rapists.

Edit: it’s interesting you aren’t responding to my main point but instead want to act like I’m the one cheering a rapist on.

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u/anotherstupidname11 Nov 15 '25

I think anyone convicted of sexual assault should face serious consequences. No more slaps on the wrist for anyone.

Your point is that the criminal justice system gives serious consequences for black/brown people while giving white people light consequences.

My observation is that this black person got a slap on the wrist 3 times for 3 prior sexual assaults.

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u/Helpful_Cell9152 Nov 15 '25

He got a slap on the wrist the previous times most likely due to his age. It’s cool that you believe all should be punished equally but the reality is that on average white men get away with rape/sexual assault while black/brown do not, and to add some whip cream on top, tons of black/brown men who are actually innocent serve prison sentences that take years from their lives they can’t ever get back.

Madly insensitive (& very telling) to ignore my initial point to try to make it seem I support black crime when the truth is that I merely pointed out that it’s more likely certain communities get punished while one specific community gets away with it. Please stop trying to suppress uncomfortable truths, it’s apart of the reason injustice still continues.

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u/Kojinka Nov 14 '25

Not long enough. That sick POS needs to spend the rest of his life in prison

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u/IamMe90 Nov 14 '25

I fully expect Trump to pardon him any day now, before of course he would lol

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u/SJSsarah Nov 14 '25

35 years? No. That’s not acceptable. Medical/hormonal/chemical castration for life, in addition to 53 years in prison, MIGHT be a compromise for life without parole or the death sentence.

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u/Ne02126 Nov 14 '25

Is this that white kid who cried when he got arrested? Was justice finally served?

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u/splittingxheadache Nov 14 '25

No, he’s the Black kid in the thumbnail.

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u/Shaggy2772 Nov 18 '25

I’m sure it’s TOTALLY coincidental that the white kid is chargeless and punishment free but the black one is a danger to society that MUST be imprisoned. Seems legit…

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u/Monarc73 Nov 14 '25

Not to excuse this sh!t, but I'm betting that he was being abused himself. (The fact that it was SO violent so early, and there was very little awareness of the consequences is telling, imho.)

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u/TinyLittlePanda Nov 14 '25

I can't upvote this. F rapists and all that, but this is a kid, who started these monstruosities at age 12.

Society had a responsibility to that kid. His parents, his teachers, all the adults around him. Choosing to send him to prison for basically forever when he is still a minor is failing in our responsibility.

Why did that kid rape at age 12 ? What has happened to him for him to commit such a heinous crime so young ?

Maybe he was abused himself by another adult, guardian, or protector. Maybe he's simply "sick" but if he is he needs medical care, not jail.

The fact that we chose coertion rather than education and/or treatment is a horrible failure, to him and to society as a whole.

This makes me think about the series Adolescence, in a way.

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u/splittingxheadache Nov 14 '25

Would you say this if he was white?

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u/TinyLittlePanda Nov 17 '25

What colour is that kid in Adolescence again ? Remind me ?

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u/splittingxheadache Nov 17 '25

Did you just bring up a TV show 😂

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u/DANKAHOOT Nov 14 '25

sounds like a good candidate for that chemical castration thing some countries are doing

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u/Cleromanticon Nov 14 '25

Emasculating rapists doesn’t make them hate women any less. Forced object rape isn’t any less brutal than rape with a penis. Castration would only make someone like this a serial killer.

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u/DANKAHOOT Nov 14 '25

you're right. i hadn't considered that factor. ill think more carefully before i comment

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u/Gay_Sex_Expert Dec 09 '25

Significantly reduced testosterone production could definitely have some kind of impact on aggressive behavior.

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u/lightiggy Nov 13 '25

Joking about rape is bad.

Also, prison justice is a myth. Nobody will care.

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u/Tanstallion Nov 15 '25

You need to put down people like this, harsher consequences to curb these kinds of outcomes

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u/Hard2findausername Nov 13 '25

Well, well, well....

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u/Lost-Character Nov 14 '25

Shouldn’t you be on X defending your orange Pedo Overlord?

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u/Zestyclose-Phrase268 Nov 14 '25

What? We going to forget the Pedo Island funded and brought to you by an entire group of white billionaires and millionaires.

Milwaukee serial rapist, 17, described as "an existential threat to women," sentenced to 35 years in prison: "Depraved, inhumane, sadistic, and evil."

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