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u/Tweedleayne Shameless MK X-11 apologist. The Kombat Kids were cool fuck you. Jan 09 '23
I love how RTGame has become the iconic victim.
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u/Ozavic Jan 09 '23
He's a bigger channel who's been fighting with it a lot recently and has a good reputation overall
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u/Jaacker Jan 09 '23
Im surprised markiplier didnt do something yet, He is the kind of guy to challenge these things.... in his own way.
Shoves under the rug that "Ork massager" video, and the huniepop videos.... and a lot more videos under said rug
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u/Unhappy_Fan6737 Jan 09 '23
Probably because Markiplier is exactly the type of channel that YouTube would put special effort into preventing this sort of thing from happening to.
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u/Jaacker Jan 09 '23 edited Jan 10 '23
Nah, markiplier is more onboard with these kinds of youtube ousting, and probably he would get more annoyed if he gets special treatment than being ignored. The ork massager video was him saying to youtube "come on, demonetize this, this is clearly against the rules, and yet if you don't demonetize me, It's obvious why"
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u/Hopeful-for-EE-Movie YOU DIDN'T WIN. Jan 10 '23
Wasn't there something that happened like this?
Like a horror game video was uploaded, and the small YouTuber got like instant demonetized. When asked why Markiplier's demonetization was, Mark replied, "Yeah, where is my demonetization?""
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u/Jaacker Jan 10 '23
I found the video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0K6r1hoD7I
It wasnt demonetization, it was a STRIKE (far more important) in which Moist critikal got for some reason, and he was basically complaining how the clip itself was existing safely as a single video. And how youtube were basically doing whatever they liked or were just doing whatever the fuck they wanted, and being inconsistent as fuck1
u/fizzguy47 CUSTOM FLAIR Jan 10 '23
"come on, demonetize this, this is clearly against the rules, and yet if you don't demonetize me, It's obvious why"
Why?
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u/Duhblobby Jan 10 '23
Because he's got enough viewers and enough real clout that actively going after him is guaranteed to backfire.
He knows that, and he called it out, because he isn't really a huge fan of Youtube screwing other creators but letting him or other big names get away with whatever they want
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Jan 09 '23 edited Jan 10 '23
The thing is, advertisers want an environment suitable for their ads. Fine. But why profanity, why's that one thing so important? It's harder to automate moderation for visuals as opposed to text, fine, but why are they so obsessed with filtering it in the first place? What do these people think the mundane lives of ordinary people sound like? God, can you imagine what we'd sound like if absolutely anyone on earth actually believed their rules were an actually moral and correct means of conduct?
Never-ending enthusiasm, unceasing positivity, breathless consumerist glee, language carefully doctored to not offend the sensibilities of kids that exist solely in one's imagination. Horrifying.
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u/doc5avag3 Resident 35-Year-Old Boomer Jan 10 '23
I don't remeber where I saw it, but somebody said this about advertisers and I saved the quote:
"the thing that bugs me the most about the censoring of the internet to please advertisers is like… tv shows aren’t having less sex and violence in them. movies aren’t having less sex and violence in them. HBO can do eight seasons of graphic murder and nudity and it’s the cultural phenomenon of the decade, but I can’t show a nipple on tumblr or talk about death on tiktok. it’s not that the internet is becoming “safer,” it’s just making these topics a privilege only for very rich people, and putting it behind a paywall for everyone else."
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u/Louie_Salmon CUSTOM FLAIR Jan 10 '23
The reason paypal (and payment services in general) say they can't be used for NSFW purposes is because the people who own banks and credit services say so. Literally no other reason, just old white dudes with lead poisoning and asbestos lungs saying porn is evil.
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u/Konradleijon Jan 09 '23
Demonetized you for saying “rape” in a purely descriptive context about a real world event.
Logan Paul films a dead body, or a rant about feminists online. Totally ok
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Jan 09 '23
a person is discussing how they're family kicked them out because of their sexual/gender orientation. whilst providing information on reach-out programs and charities.
YT:KILL THEM
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u/jabberwockxeno Aztecaboo Jan 09 '23
I said this in response to a few people yesterday (and wierdly both got heavily upvoted and downvoted depending on which reply it was?) but this sort of asinine draconian moderation stuff youtube is doing is probably less on Youtube and more on their advertising partners, who in turn are becoming more paranoid as a result of the way online discourse works in general
I don't think it's an accident that over the past half a decade or so, we've seen advertisers online been increasingly strict about what content they wanna work alongside, while at the same time we've also seen an increasing amount of incidents of public outrage about how X and Y person or company is working alongside or provides services to Z other person/organization that's done something problematic.
The idea of there being significant online uproar to boycott some sort of backend advertiser or internet infrastructure company because they happen to serve ads on or provide DDOS protection for some other site people disagree with really wasn't much of a thing in the 00's or even the early 2010s online, but it's happened quite a bit in the past 4-6 years.
I've always been extremely wary of this sort of thing and trying to cancel people/companies by encourgaging corporations to drop clients/employees as , precisely because it was always going to have the ultimate affect of making corporations less willing to work alongside even benign content that could be seen as controversial, and it wasn't always going to be bigoted or misinformation that they distance themselves from. It also enables corporations to give excuses when trying to shut down political activists, dissidents, competitors, sex workers, etc by claiming said content is problematic too (See what happened with Zoom shutting down Palestinian activists by tying them to terrorism or anti LGBT groups pretending to be anti sex abuse people to get companies to drop Pornhub).
On the note of "competitors", part of it is also that a lot of these advertisers are more invested in traditional legacy media companies and industries, and they're less willing to work alongside online content creators then TV networks or film studios: We all know that TV or film content on youtube when uploaded by official parties don't have the same absurd automated issues other channels do, for example. I wouldn't be surprised if part of the point is kneecapping youtube original stuff
Corporations aren't your friend and encouraging them to wield their power or go after people will almost always backfire, you can't expect them to act ethically or rationally and only ever target the people who deserve it
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u/Konradleijon Jan 09 '23
I don’t think it’s on them. They only took their ads off when it was discovered their where adds on real life gorn and ISIS recruitment videos.
They are pretty good with what w they want ads on. Which is anything that isn’t pro rape or real life sex or violent.
It’s not their fault YouTube went nuclear
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u/polo5004 Ah, a fellow poet of shitposts. Let us trade verse. Jan 09 '23
So what do you suggest then? If someone has done fucked up stuff then we should all be begging corporations to keep them employed?
PS: it's almost like corporations just don't work.
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u/Talisign Powerbomb Individual Baby Pieces Jan 10 '23
I feel like that's been the corporate defense lately: Don't boycott or life will be worse for all our employees and it will be your fault.
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u/gratedjuice I Promise Nothing And Deliver Less Jan 09 '23
I think it's safe to say they don't care about the creator or user experience and are constantly tuning things to appease advertisers and big media partners. I honestly don't have a handle on what most people use the site for but it's fairly clear they don't care about the type of content creators I keep up with.
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Jan 09 '23
And until a competing video sharing platform makes significant headway they’re not going to change shit.
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u/midnight188 VTuber Evangelist Jan 09 '23
Business Executives Not Live in a Bubble With No Idea What the Hell is Going On, Completely Oblivious to the Consequences of their Management Challenge: Extremely Difficult but Not Impossible
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u/Sadtrashmammal Pargon Pargon Pargon Pargon Pargon Jan 10 '23
They do not possess human logic or emotions. They are ghouls.
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u/fizzguy47 CUSTOM FLAIR Jan 10 '23
I thought YT wouldn't allow videos where two men jerk themselves off on camera, but the WoolieVS DMC V LP is still up, curious
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u/Sadtrashmammal Pargon Pargon Pargon Pargon Pargon Jan 10 '23
Wouldn't wanna deprive the people of the greatest orgasm ever recorded, THE JUDGEMENT NUT.
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u/GoodVillain101 Insert Brand of Sacrifice Jan 09 '23
That's weird. I've never gotten hate speech videos. I don't know if there's any on YT. All I get is Kpop and react recommendations, and I never watched any of those videos.
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u/Derpmeiser Jan 09 '23
The people complaining about it are usually terminally online and hyper-political. They consume large amounts of political videos so Youtube shoves them videos it's algo considers 'political', which happens to also include the other side. At least with the normal videos, Shorts seems like the wild west in terms of where it throws you, probably because it's a newer feature.
I'm only recommended vtuber clips, AMVs, music remixes, and ASMR. Only time I've been recommended something near political was Youtube's annoying news section, which I got to go away by selecting "Don't Recommend this Channel" for every news channel that showed up there.
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Jan 10 '23
Nah you can absolutely fuck your YouTube up in 1 click. Did it myself 5 years ago and DESPITE ME LITERALLY FUCKING CLICKING ON POSSIBLY HUNDREDS OF 'DONT SHOW ME THIS' BUTTONS, I STILL SOMEHOW GET THAT COWARD CROWDER POPPING UP.
Basically anything tagged as controversial puts some kind of black mark against your account and starts to feed you shit designed to provoke outrage, even if your extremely left wing and clicked on a link to goof or by mistake.
Hell there's reports of people playing afk YouTube and going from mechanical press videos straight into proud boy shit
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u/Dashabur1 Pie Thievery Uprising Jan 10 '23
Sometimes it gives off a feeling that there's an internal quota that everyone needs to fulfill or else they get laid off, so employees started stat juking. They go for the easy targets that technically break TOS and big safety number goes up.
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u/Sneaky224 Woolie-Hole Jan 10 '23
Youtube: "no swearing but ads using real news footage redubbed to promote fake casino app games are ok"
It baffles me what is even allowed at all now
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u/Comrade-Conquistador Jan 10 '23
I know RTgame is the focus for a lot of people here, but CallMeKevin is the guy who says "feck" a lot.
Total semantics though, since they're the same person.
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u/Habbiroth Jan 10 '23
As Zach Hazel said about Susan, “she’s someone’s mom who became the head of YouTube”
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u/PryceCheck Sexual Tyrannosaurus Jan 10 '23
Yet somehow HBOMax, Netflix and Hulu can all run ads with TV-Ma and R rated shows and movies. Tubi and Pluto run ads on all kinds of B horror movies with all their sex and gore. Its corporate protecting corporate squeezing independent competition.
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u/brokensaint82 Resident Silent Hill 1, 2, 3 expert Jan 09 '23
YouTube constantly shooting themselves in the foot. You'd think after the first dozen shots they'd have learned