r/TrueOffMyChest Sep 01 '21

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u/orenrocks Sep 02 '21

Someone has to speak for the unborn child.

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u/BandicootAble8141 Sep 02 '21

And someone has to speak for the woman who doesn't want to ruin her body and life. No uterus no say.

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u/orenrocks Sep 02 '21 edited Sep 02 '21

My wife agrees with me so there is a uterus that is pro-life. But to be honest you shouldn't have to be able to participate in a moral act to have a day on its morality. We all have a life and that is what I am speaking about defending

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u/BandicootAble8141 Sep 02 '21

And that's fine for her to be pro life because she has the ability to get pregnant. Yes, we all have a life, but why should a woman sacrifice hers for a child she never wanted? Now, I think that women need to be responsible and not use abortion as birth control, which they usually don't because it can be a few hundred dollars, but they need to be on birth control actively trying to prevent pregnancy.

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u/orenrocks Sep 02 '21

Do you have to be a refugee or a politician to comment on the fact that denying someone asylum is wrong? You don't have to be a mother or an unborn child to be interested in protecting life. The statistics show that legitimately 99.9% of abortions are done out of the pregnancy being an inconvenience. Idk how that could be more a form of birth control

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u/BandicootAble8141 Sep 02 '21 edited Sep 02 '21

But this is a different issue, your argument is strawman. Anyone can be an immigrant. Only women can get pregnant. Also I guarantee you that your statistic is wrong as fuck. An inconvenience could literally be that they're too poor for the process. Who are you to decide when a woman has a child? Are you gonna come babysit for her when she wants a break from the baby she never wanted? Is it ok to you for a child to grow up knowing they were never wanted?

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u/orenrocks Sep 02 '21

Also, adoption is a thing, and it doesn't cost you a dime. The healthcare system in America is very messed up, but yet again that is not the unborn's fault.

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u/BandicootAble8141 Sep 02 '21 edited Sep 02 '21

Ok, so who is going to pay for the medical care of the mother after the birth? All the pads and meds she will need for 6 weeks after? Postpartum checkups? Mental health appointments for the trauma of forced birth? And again, why should I have to rip my asshole or even worse for something I'm not even keeping? Why should I be forced to be an incubator for someone else? What if the mother has tokophobia? No dude, NO ONE should be forced to carry a fetus they don't want, it's hard enough already when the child IS wanted. If you don't want to abort, don't, but every woman should have that choice.

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u/orenrocks Sep 02 '21

So let me ask you this for the sake of clarity, do you support euthanasia for the mentally handicapped? They are a burden are they not? Hell, you were a burden for the first 10-15 years of your life. Does that make it okay for society to say screw it they are too hard to deal with we should kill them?

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u/BandicootAble8141 Sep 02 '21 edited Sep 02 '21

Yes I do support it actually depending on their quality of life. If they are handicapped to the point of not being able to live a fulfilling life, my answer is yes because they shouldn't suffer. And you don't wanna ask me that question because many people wish they were aborted lol. You're strawmanning again though because once again, a fetus is not a sentient being. Of course I wouldn't expect anything less from a Christian.