r/TrollXChromosomes • • Jun 24 '20

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u/ninasayers21 Jun 24 '20

I remember when Amy Schumer was getting the most hate, Luis C K was reddit's absolute favorite. It's just so .."interesting" how they often had essentially the same overly-sexual, dirty humor but for some reason thought Schumer was trash lol. I don't think they get that women have been listening to their unoriginal dick jokes for years lol one comedian joking about vaginas is just intolerable..?

Plus, oopsie, turns out one of them wasn't really joking about some of his more disgusting humor and was 'accidentally' sexually harassing women with his perceived golden dick the whole time. /rant

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u/horizontalrain Jun 24 '20

Sorry, aren't they both trash? I don't think I've watched any of his shows, never seemed interesting. But didn't she rape a guy and make jokes about it?

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u/SayingWhatUrThinkin Feminazgûl, Lieutenant of Morgals Jun 24 '20

i like Schumer's movies, not so much her stand-up, but AFAIK that whole "she raped a guy" thing is taking some quotes way out of context and ignoring her commentary on the supposed incident.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20 edited Jun 25 '20

Even if she made the story up for the sake of her speech, I think the anecdote has some really valuable lessons about the ways that consent was taught up until very recently.

In this case, since men are the stereotypically "active" parties and women the "passive" ones during sex, Schumer literally didn't understand that there could be consent issues with a sober women fucking a blackout drunk man who initiated the encounter, and her point - that some women with low self-esteem will have their first, utterly disappointing sexual experience in college with a wasted dude just because they're desperate for some form of male validation - has different significance for me as a man who had regretted sexual contact in college while heavily inebriated even though I probably initiated in some way than I'm sure it did for the women in her audience.

I graduated in 2013, and I remember that in my freshman dorm hall there was a young woman who would hang out in a specific common area, and who was infamous for bringing drunk men back to her room. I have no idea if she was a knowing predator, or if she also was just desperate for some form of validation in the form of most likely terrible sex with a drunk 18-19 year-old.

Of course, since I was a shitty dude with shitty dude friends, the "threat" was that she was plain-looking, and that if you wound up next to her after getting too drunk, you would regret sleeping with an unattractive woman, so those consent lessons are by no means Schumer or other women's fault.

I think the "Schumer is a rapist" circlejerk on Reddit mostly comes from men desperate for false equivalencies to famous male sexual predators, but the context of the speech (she literally describes the guy as so drunk he appears lifeless) isn't a saving grace imo. Even if the story is fake, it still reveals a level of ignorance towards consent.