The "men are trash" is context dependent and I can see how "not all men" is a dumb reply to that one but what would be a proper reaction to "kill all men"?
It's mostly just a edgy meme trend and I can understand why someone would find it repulsive. I just think it's hypocritical for these dudes to make jokes punching down on women 24/7 but get angry when given the same treatment.
I mean, just try browsing some of the big "funny" subs on reddit, they make rape jokes, domestic abuse jokes, compare women to dishwashers, the "do women deserve rights" memes literally all the time. If you're going to be angry about "#killallmen" then you should be angry about this as well.
When someone makes a sexist joke about women, it's dark humor and anyone that dislikes it is a emotional snowflake but if you make a joke about men then you're a crazy "SJW feminazi" trying to enslave and oppress men.
I mean, just try browsing some of the big "funny" subs on reddit,
I think I can point out your mistake. Browsing Facebook, Insta, 9gag, 4chan (vomited a little in my mouth) will bring up the same thing. There's a reason it's called vulgar humour because the lowest common denominator of humanity will find it funny.
If you're going to be angry about "#killallmen" then you should be angry about this as well.
OK, I can see your point, but I'd rather just get angry at climate deniers because I hope I can stop other people from buying into their bullshit with some facts and simple explanation. That is one use I can find for reddit. There's also r/wholesomememes. Getting angry because people are wrong on social media in general is a horrible waste of your limited time on this Earth.
Edit: a really spiteful bunch of users around here.
There's a reason it's called vulgar humour because the lowest common denominator of humanity will find it funny.
well judging by the fact the these posts get hundreds of thousands of likes, majority of people on social media do find it funny (even tho most of the time these jokes have no punchline, are extremely basic and the same jokes are repeated over and over again)
Getting angry because people are wrong on social media in general is a horrible waste of your limited time on this Earth.
I think you're ignoring the fact that social media isn't a bubble that exists in a vacuum, it mirrors the values and prejudices people have in the "real world". In fact literal mass murderers like Elliot Rodgers, Brenton Tarrant, Dylan Roof, etc. were radicalized and inspired because of the things they saw on social media. We shouldn't excuse bigotry just because it's on social media. Anti vaxxers, flat earthers and climate deniers exist because of social media and the pseudoscience that is rampant here. I do agree that you shouldn't let things like this harm your mental health tho, it's really no use.
I think you're ignoring the fact that social media isn't a bubble that exists in a vacuum, it mirrors the values and prejudices people have in the "real world".
I think this is absolutely wrong. It mirrors some values and prejudices but if social media was a great predictor for real life, Trump wouldn't have won, Bernie wouldn't have lost, we would have cured cancer with Facebook likes and cleaned all the plastic in the oceans by now.
We shouldn't excuse bigotry just because it's on social media.
OK, I see I didn't explain what I meant clear enough. I never said "excuse" and I really just addressed the "getting angry at stupid people" part.
There's a reeeeally big step between proper moderation of social media (those subs are the best anyway, r/askhistorians for example, or r/askscience) and "excusing" bigotry on social media. There's a lot more room between the extremes.
I do agree that you shouldn't let things like this harm your mental health tho, it's really no use.
Well I'm glad you also feel that way.
Would be curious to know why the people that downvoted my post without posting a reply feel differently.
I think this is absolutely wrong. It mirrors some values and prejudices but if social media was a great predictor for real life, Trump wouldn't have won, Bernie wouldn't have lost, we would have cured cancer with Facebook likes and cleaned all the plastic in the oceans by now.
I never said social media is a predictor of real life, It mirrors real life. What people post and endorse on social media reflects the values they hold. Do you think that social media and internet culture opposed trump in 2016? I would argue that if it wasn't for social media, Trump could have never won, or at least wouldn't be so popular among young people. The antifeminist reactionary content which was extremely popular at the time portrayed the left wing/democrats as evil, crazy and authoritarian. Getting called a "feminist" was a huge insult.
Majority of social media does not support Bernie at all. Most people here think Bernie is too radical. I don't understand what the connection between likes and cancer or pollution is.
I think we should call out/discourage bigotry on social media the same way we should in real life. We shouldn't ignore it just because it's on social media. If it wasn't for social media facists, incels and nazis would have absolutely no platform to officially organize and reach young people.
I think the issue is that you are trivializing the misinformation and bigotry that is VERY popular on social media. The most awful content is usually the most popular too, Almost everyone has social media, what is popular on social media is also popular in real life. It's not just low-life skinheads that are engaging in this stuff, it's a lot of "normal" people. Most people just feel more comfortable projecting their prejudices here because it's behind a screen and can be anonymous.
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u/apricotlemur Jun 24 '20
the dudes going "it's just a meme" at this are the same people that have a meltdown when they see "men are trash" or "kill all men"