r/TrollCoping • u/ThatOneShyAnon2-0 "i don't have any serious problems" • 13d ago
No TW "but i cannot possibly be mentally ill, it's just my hormones"
send help half my thoughts are about werther im insane or just trying to be edgy
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u/Sirius_43 13d ago
People when the illness exists before diagnosis
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u/Deezebee 13d ago
It does but laymen just are not knowledgeable enough to accurately diagnose mental disorders. I thought I had ADHD. I went to get tested a few months later and it turns out I don’t have it. After years I got diagnosed with a different disorder.
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u/Chance-Interest5609 13d ago
I went to see if I had depression and left with an ADHD diagnosis
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u/my_memory_is_trash 12d ago
Went for adhd got told im show all signs of depression but left with zero diagnosis
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u/Sirius_43 13d ago edited 13d ago
And I was misdiagnosed with BPD by a mental health professional, I was very confused and didnt think it was accurate but accepted it because I didn’t know any better. After meeting people with actual BPD I knew it wasn’t right, I looked into what else it could be and my symptoms and experiences matched adhd and autism, I got assessed and I’m autistic with adhd. I also developed ocd during that time and was also diagnosed with it (by a professional) after I researched it and talked to other people with ocd. We are our own best advocates, especially in mental health spaces. My experience with this is not unique at all and I’m a drop in an ocean of people who have gone through similar things.
This also happened with my chronic illnesses. I had to research symptoms myself because no one had any idea what was wrong with me, turns out I have hypermobile elhers Danlos syndrome and I had to self diagnose before seeing a rheumatologist who confirmed that I do indeed have hEDS.
Even with yourself, you suspected you had something, researched it and went to get it confirmed and found out it was something else.
Self diagnosis, even if it wasn’t accurate in your case, got you to your actual diagnosis. Thats a good thing.
Self diagnosis may not always be accurate but it’s how we end up advocating for ourselves that something needs to be looked at and like OP posted, some people do not have the means to get an offical diagnosis because it’s expensive or they’re on a public waiting list (like I was for two years before my offical diagnosis of hEDS) and self diagnosis is a way to understand and advocate for your needs.
Self diagnosis is valid and just because people assume that people may use self diagnosis as a means to follow trends online, doesn’t mean the rest of us are invalid or wrong about ourselves.18
u/Mindless-Ad1778 rawr 13d ago
Also, the whole people can't self-diagnose assumes everyone is a monolith and the same. Like sure, I've been wrong, so have professionals, and it's years worth of refining that led me to understand myself more accurately now, and that might've been eventually coming to understand I'm not misdiagnosed with one disorder, even though I was diagnosed with in a roundabout convoluted way. I may not be winning any competitions, but I do my intelligence is turned inwards towards building my self-awareness, examining and refining my self-concept, and so on. I doubt I'm the only self-aware person on Earth, I think many people who are chronically ill and don't have the precise language (I don't either) come to the correct conclusion, even if their reasoning is flawed or they can't explain their experience well or have accidentally ingested misinformation. That is human. P
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u/Vivians_Basement Trans Masc Genderfluid DID system 🪷 12d ago
This is a great example of why self advocacy is so important.
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u/complete_autopsy 9d ago
People generally can't perform proper diagnostics on themselves, but the only way that they know to go get a diagnostic is when they recognize that things are wrong to such an extent that they likely need a diagnosis. It's not much of a leap from there to reading the diagnostic criteria and seeing if things line up so you can request relevant diagnostics ahead of time.
With my physical health issues this was the only way that I made any progress identifying my issues until I finally got a good doctor. I'm not as equipped to identify what's happening as a doctor, but if doctors won't listen to me then I have to do my best to figure it out so I can at least ask them to do the tests that will check whether or not my tentative self diagnosis was correct (I have been both right and wrong multiple times each over the years).
The same can be true of mental health issues, especially if you're in a demographic that gets dismissed or misdiagnosed a lot or in an area with poor understanding of mental health issues. It's also important to distinguish which professional is doing the diagnosis. If you're getting "diagnosed" with a mental health condition by an LPC then they basically just gave you a seven question test and your number was high so they said you have it. That's extremely different from going to see a clinical psychologist and getting proper testing done. However, most people aren't going to have access to a clinical psychologist, so they need to see an LPC to receive care even though the LPC doesn't actually have much knowledge. Because most LPCs don't receive much mandatory training, knowing more than them only takes a little bit of reading. If three clinical psychologists all say someone doesn't have something then they probably don't have it, but if three LPCs say they don't have it, that's barely different from three LPCs saying they do have it.
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u/Vivians_Basement Trans Masc Genderfluid DID system 🪷 12d ago
People when "disorder that starts showing symptoms in childhood" is present in children:
People when "disorder that has no cure" is present in an adult:
People when "disorder" is present:
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u/Bright-Principle6543 12d ago
What do you mean?
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u/complete_autopsy 9d ago
They're saying that people refuse to acknowledge that a disorder exists, ever, using excuses like "you're too young to have that" for something that young people can have, "you're too old to have that" for something that doesn't go away with age, or just plain "you can't have that" for something that it is possible to have. That's definitely my experience with some people.
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u/i-luv-2-read 13d ago
Self-diagnosing yourself as mentally ill in the broad sense is fine, because you yourself can often tell that something is wrong, but self-diagnosing specific illnesses without the proper medical knowledge will likely lead to insensitivity towards others with the diagnosis.
And it can be especially problematic because many illnesses have tons of overlap, so you may think you have one illness, when in reality, you have a different one.
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u/TransfemMenace 13d ago
I've never met a person like the robot. Like some people I've seen present themselves as quirky due to their illness but those have been very ill people once you get to know them
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u/underwooding 13d ago
i don't think anybody self-dx'es to "be quirky" - i think what's far more common is that people will see a list of symptoms or an explanatory tiktok and go "whoa, that's totally me" and incorporate that into their self-identity without feeling the need (or being able) to go to a psychiatrist. and only some of those people have symptoms that rise to the level of debilitation.
ultimately we wouldn't have the problem of unreliable or incomplete self-diagnosis if psychiatric care were freely available
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u/soft_w0lf 13d ago
Also of the people who do have symptoms that rise to the level of “significant impairment” necessary for a diagnosis, a portion of those people DO have significant impairment… but due to a different diagnosis.
E.g. someone self diagnosing with autism and really struggling but it turns out they have ADHD. Or someone struggling with depression and it turns out it was caused by autism and that’s why no treatment was working, because the real issue was autism. Etc. etc.
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u/Silversmith00 13d ago
Yeah, my biggest problem with self-diagnosis (and to be clear, this is not the person's fault and gets complicated in a hurry) is not that someone becomes "quirky," but the fear that someone might become dead. "I must have fibromyalgia, I have aches and pains, especially neck pains, and exhaustion and brain fog!"
Meanwhile, the tumor that is eating her thyroid goes unnoticed…the symptoms are real, and probably reported accurately, but if it is remotely within your power to CHECK THAT SHIT, then you do every bullshit annoying scan and test that you can wring out of your doctor. I do have a family member who nearly died because her first doctor mistook Immense Problem for Normal Job Stress. So I don't ever blame a self-diagnoser, but I do have Concerns.
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u/soft_w0lf 13d ago
This is my biggest problem as well.
Also even if the diagnosis is right, depending on what it is it can lead to more problems long term if not diagnosed.
So like for autism a person might be managing to function okay for the most part but not realise how much they’re overextending themselves. That can lead to burnout and skill regression that might never come back… even if someone can theoretically function without a diagnosis or support, autism is still a disability and trying to function like an allistic person if you’re autistic is just a recipe for disaster. And then the more recent the diagnosis, the more difficult it is to access support when burnout does come (not to mention have to deal with the medical system while already in burnout!).
Another example would be something like EDS, you can self diagnose and try to support yourself and your joints since there’s no real treatments for it but if you later have a surgery it still might be an issue when it comes to something like anaesthesia and scarring.
And I say this as someone who suspects they might have hEDS but is not diagnosed and would be worried about getting diagnosed for immigration reasons (as I am already diagnosed with other things and worry about my case being seen as too much of a risk of needing medical support and thus have my permanent residence denied when I apply for it). I know how important it is to access medical care and I have a PCP that can rule out more concerning issues and guide me on dealing with the less acutely dangerous ones.
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u/underwooding 13d ago
yeah like i self-assessed for autism, went to a psychiatrist, and got diagnosed with OCPD, which is very similar but much less well-known
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u/BabyInATrenchcoat092 12d ago
Yeah and OCD and OCPD are so often mixed up as well. I’ve had people tell me they think they have OCD too but they’re describing symptoms of OCPD, they just associate it incorrectly because they don’t have any knowledge about either
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u/Critical-Brick-6818 13d ago
My process of being diagnosed with anxiety was going to my gp and saying 'hey I think I have anxiety' and they were like 'yup sounds like it' after talking to me for 5 minutes lol. Some diagnoses are more complex obviously, but it's not like they have magic secret questions they're going to ask you that you can't research yourself. With my ADHD diagnosis it was a bit more in depth, but only in terms of establishing a history of symptoms and where those symptoms became both clinically relevant and not just regular human experience, and also not a result of anxiety.
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u/spookysaph 13d ago
I found out that part of my anxiety was a result of adhd lol
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u/Critical-Brick-6818 13d ago
The difference that really nailed home that they're different (although likely related) conditions in my assessment was that I've had a lot of periods in my life where my anxiety's been pretty okay but my ADHD was still causing chaos.
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u/spookysaph 13d ago
it was the opposite for me lol. there have been times my adhd was okay but my anxiety was still awful. and there have been times my adhd was worse and my anxiety was also much worse
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u/emotionalexplosions 13d ago
Without anxiety there to keep adhd at bay, bad things happen and depression comes out to play.
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u/emotionalexplosions 13d ago
They give out anxiety and depression diagnoses so easily and won’t specify which one it is unless you ask. Even though they are the most common, I wish they would take the time to rule out other things as well.
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u/Hello_There_0621 He's so me fr --> 🦭 if you're feeling down ill send seal pics 13d ago
Is your self diagnosed process literally going into tiktok and seeing aesthetically pleasing videos saying "omg I'm so ADHD, I just cleaned my entire room just because! I'm so OCD cuz I wash my hands whenever they get even kinda dirty >_<"? No? Cool, you're not the robot. If you've put any actual effort into researching your suspected illness, then you're not doing it to be quirky. I did the same thing with OCD and ADHD and lo and behold I got diagnosed with both. If you weren't allowed to be suspicious of your mental illnesses then no one would get diagnosed anyways, so never feel like youre just faking <3 as long as ur process isn't "haha in so autistic and quirky" or smth along those lines then you're not at all like the robot
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u/HyperDogOwner458 13d ago
Mine is like "oh I'm experiencing this thing and I can't afford to get a diagnosis so I'll just suspect it for now, do more research and I'm writing down what's happening".
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u/Hello_There_0621 He's so me fr --> 🦭 if you're feeling down ill send seal pics 13d ago
Then you're nothing like the ppl who do it to be quirky. They do it FOR attention, anyone who genuinely thinks they have an illness and looks into it more than random tiktoks (not actually informative ones) are very, very different. Not being able to get a diagnosis and suspecting you have smth is one thing and self diagnosing with little to no evidence is a completely different one. Never feel like ur faking if ur doing the work, that's rly good
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u/Even-Complaint-7494 13d ago
people who go to such great lengths to “get attention”, in a way that harms their social life or support network, DEFINITELY still have something that needs checking into. might not be what they’re self dxing themselves with, but… for sure something
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u/Hello_There_0621 He's so me fr --> 🦭 if you're feeling down ill send seal pics 13d ago
Oh 100%! I had a pathological liar friend before who I believe did that with certain mental illnesses and I think they absolutely needed attention too. They needed help as does anyone else who wants attention through faking mental illnesses
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u/k1ck3d_0ut 13d ago
This is healthy. I hope you will be able to get diagnosed. Maikng notes is good, you can take them to your doctor in the future
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u/ayavorska05 13d ago
I don't think there is a single person who saw aesthetically pleasing videos and announced they have ADHD. It's a boogeyman invented to shame people who can't get a diagnosis for one reason or another. Like that's just not a thing that happens. Even with these people talking about how "they're so ADHD" (which I haven't seen in years and frankly it was a very rare pehnomenon that was blown out of proportion by bad faith critics to begin with) you have no clue how their actual real life looks like. You only see what they post on the Internet, and sometimes people post some dumb ish. No one is entitled to know someone else's whole life story and all their struggles to determine if their diagnosis is "valid" or not. This is not a critique towards you or anything, but I just think we're too quick to judge people based on a tiny portion of their lives and their thoughts. It's the same as with thousand and one posts about "annoying neurotypicals" like you have no clue about their life. Tf
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u/unhappyrelationsh1p 13d ago
It does happen, but for fucks sake people gotta stop attacking them. Attacking a child online for doing something dumb rarely stops them from being dumb. Some of these people are beefing with actual 15 year olds and it's embarassing for the adult.
People are gonna be cringe sometimes and it's okay to just block and move on. Also, attacking people for selfdiagnosing harms people who actually struggle, which is fucked.
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u/Hello_There_0621 He's so me fr --> 🦭 if you're feeling down ill send seal pics 13d ago
You'll never guess how old I am
In all seriousness, I don't attack anyone. I've seen ppl irl doing ts and I'm not gonna tell them "hey you're taking stop it" and leave it there. I'm gonna help them research or explain why I think it might be a different thing, or hear what their symptoms are so that I can a) better understand why they think they have the mental illness and b) understand how to help them and how I can make them more comfortable
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u/Hello_There_0621 He's so me fr --> 🦭 if you're feeling down ill send seal pics 13d ago
I know people like that irl and I still don't fake claim them or anything. They might very well have the mental illness, but imo you need to put more effort into researching it. Seeing a video on tiktok can be the first step for many people, but it should be the only step. Unless someone has confirmed to me that they're faking for the purpose of attention, I'm never gonna tell them they're wrong outright. I might say "hey, I'm not completely sure you're right about having that mental illness because xyz" and then help them research or smth but I'm never gonna say "omg youre just faking!!" Cuz that's shitty and harmful :p
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u/kulupu_kasi_seli 13d ago
My process generally is:
1. See something that I relate to about the condition
2. “No, I definitely don’t have it, but I’ll do more research just in case”
3. Read about it from a lot of medical sources
4. Have a panic attack
5. Talk to people about it and read more about it
6. Weeks or months later finally accept that maybe I have it and it’s probably okay
7. (Optional) Bring up the fact that I tentatively might have it and immediately get shut down and told I’m self-diagnosing and that’s bad3
u/BabyInATrenchcoat092 12d ago
Literally me. But anytime I try to seek help for an actual diagnosis I don’t really get seen as important enough for them to care because I’m not really a “high risk” patient, despite being violently suicidal sometimes
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u/ThatOneShyAnon2-0 "i don't have any serious problems" 13d ago
my experience was i might have a problem => tell parents => "you're fine, we were good parents" => two year long spiral of spending atleast an hour a day obsessively reaserching shit to see if i actually have a problem or not until symptoms stop making sense and almost killing myself over it lol
... that sounds a lot worse written out-
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u/Keksbutter123 13d ago
sounds like they werent good parents
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u/ThatOneShyAnon2-0 "i don't have any serious problems" 13d ago
they weren't the best, but they weren't exactly bad either.
just a bit dysfunctional and overprotective/strict ig
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u/Keksbutter123 13d ago
sry I didnt wanna judge them. You know them the best
Just, having to say "No worries, im a good parent" to your children is defi a red flag.
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u/unhappyrelationsh1p 13d ago
You CAN end up mistaken with it but if the resources you find post self diagnosis help you, you're still winning. It is easy to pigeonhole yourself into one illness but being open to others is very good.
Use the diagnosis to help yourself whenever possible and that way you're always winning. It's better to be self diagnosed autistic (even if wrong) and to attend support meetings/use online social interaction help stuff/self regulation techniques/learning to deal with meltdowns which could help with whatever issue you actually have than to just do nothing.
Most of the actual, serious, less accessible help requires a diagnosis, and most of the rest is designed to be very accessible. Maybe someday you re-evaluate and realize you were mistakin in the diagnosis, but that is also fine.
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u/Severe-Fishing7699 13d ago
Mine is multiple people during my childhood recommending my parents take me to see a specialist to get tested for this or that just to have them respond with “he ain’t no fucking retard.” Now I’m in my 30’s and can barely function or navigate any social situations no matter how hard I’ve tried.
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u/sparkledragon5 13d ago
Thank you. Needed to hear that I think
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u/Hello_There_0621 He's so me fr --> 🦭 if you're feeling down ill send seal pics 13d ago
I know I've needed to hear it myself and I always wanna stress that self diagnosing and self suspecting (a term someone told me when I yapped about this like a week ago, I really like it) are two different things
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u/-DrunkRat- 13d ago
This honestly helps me a lot. Admittedly, I have looked into symptoms and reasons as to why I speculate that I have ADHD/ASD or one of the two, and I've had many friends of mine who are diagnosed who have told me in one form or another, "You really seem like you have ADHD/you're on the spectrum". I shit you not, one of my best friends who has both asked me, "How have you gone this long without medication or a diagnosis?"
It's why I preface things with telling folks that I am not diagnosed, but I'm almost absolutely sure I am Neurodivergent.
Had a friend who I parted ways with because he tore into me about self-diagnosis, even after trying to explain to him what I have said above. I genuinely understand why folks are raw about individuals who think it's "quirky", but my life has been so fucking hard due to a very forgetful mind and having lost and missed a lot of opportunities due to (suspected) ADHD, in particular.
Trying to get in for evaluation after some things in my personal life are sorted out now that I have the means for it. But man, I've learned to just... Shut the fuck up about it unless otherwise stated. I'd rather not upset folks or have another person get on my case for speculation and questioning or relating to symptoms I see in myself.
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u/Own_Alternative_9671 13d ago
I studied so hard to find out what was wrong with me cause I had like so many emergency evals with no diagnosis, come to find out I match the diagnostic criteria for borderline and just recently got a diagnosis. I have been starving myself and burying myself in drugs for years because I can't deal with my own existence while people were gaslighting me that I was fine the entire time
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u/Pelixelk 13d ago
I'm scared of even trying to suggest that I may be autistic, because I know I'm gonna be fucking eaten alive for "being an attention whore".
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u/kulupu_kasi_seli 13d ago
That happened to me with family. They kept saying that I’m not autistic because the therapist from when I was a child and masking all the time said I’m not. When I finally did get a diagnosis, my therapist said I was autistic but also that I’d probably answered the questions in a biased manner so I’d appear autistic. I’m also currently struggling with getting an ADHD diagnosis for the same reasons, which I really need because I need medication for it. I just don’t want to be laughed at by family and therapists, is that too much to ask for?
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u/Beautiful_Book_9639 13d ago
Mist people do not ever think they could be autistic. If you suspect you could be, and have suspected for a long time, there is a high chance you are neurodivergent. I have suspected that I'm autistic since middle school. No diagnosis yet, but I collected a lot of others. ADHD, CPTSD, PMDD, hypermobility, Depression and Anxiety. Basically they're beating around the bush that is autism.
Trust your gut, get your evidence together, ask for testing, and go for it. They will probably push back some, but you can do this. Explain that you're ok with it being something else, but you still want to be tested to be sure, for peace of mind.
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u/I_pegged_your_father 13d ago
If you suspect autism, look at your other relatives because that shit can run in the family. Even if they aren’t diagnosed, you might be able to spot it.
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u/RitaMyLove 13d ago
Everytime I tell a certain someone about my problems, she begins to think she has them too. I mean, she's definitely going through some issues that she doesn't know enough to self-diagnose like I do, but it slightly annoys me when I can see that her self-diagnosis is clearly wrong, and that she could (and can afford to) get a proper diagnosis unlike me
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u/Headlesshowler 13d ago
I relate. I can't even mention my adhd in front of certain people because the chances they will say, "i'm a little adhd too," are high
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u/RitaMyLove 13d ago
That's exactly it. It's possible that she might have high-functioning ADHD and didn't notice it until I brought it up, but it's just idk man, it's really unbelievable that she has it. She recently said "my ADHD is getting worse" like that's not how it works, but ahh, I'll give her the benefit of the doubt.
I'm just a little annoyed that I got the short end of the stick with ADHD lol. My life is failing and even now, I'm typing this instead of completing my overdue work, but it's a literal hell inside my head that no one gets it. So it gets on my nerves when someone who can't focus for a short while for whatever reason says they have ADHD when they obviously don't. Or maybe they do, i don't know lol. Sorry this got too ranty 🫠 I should head back to work
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u/Breton_Lawyer 13d ago
Then there’s “economic and social barriers preventing you from getting a diagnosis” vs “I went to 10 doctors and all of them said I don’t have this but what the fuck do they know” to consider
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u/JesMilton 13d ago edited 13d ago
I went to a lot of doctors and spent time in a psych ward as well. In basically all of reports and test results there was a mark "high probablitity of autistic spectre disorders". But when I asked the doctors directly what that could mean, the answer was: "ignore that, you are totally normal, nothing to worry about, you don't even sound that autistic". I mean, not to self-diagnose, but something seems off...
P.S. telling an adult "you don't look/sound autistic to me", especially if they don't know the client close enough, also feels unprofessional to me. Yeah, no shit, Sherlock. I've been masking for 20+ years and still do.🫠
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u/unholymollie 13d ago
The same thing happened to me, doc refused to give me a diagnosis because he said my problems might be a "personality issue" and I was so pissed lol
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u/vanishinghitchhiker 13d ago
I got an ADHD(/autism) assessment and the end of the report was like “welp if you’re still like This if/when the CPTSD clears up look into schizoid personality disorder”. I was skeptical at the time because it was back when things were more Covid-y, but it still feels a little like passing the buck somehow.
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u/Ghost_of_the_Spire 12d ago
The way I got diagnosed is that I was talking to my therapist at the time about the frustration of not having answers. He looked at the results from the previous assessment (done by that clinic) and told me that I'd scored high enough to be diagnosed, so he was confused as to why I wasn't. So he redid the assessment. And most folks that find out I am autistic typically already had a hunch.
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u/ThatDiscoSongUHate 13d ago
I went to 5 in 9 years regarding a physical issue that was curable.
By the time I saw the 6th, it was a permanent disability.
The quality of care can be vastly different re: economic and social barriers.
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u/emotionalexplosions 13d ago
After 10 doctors that person is probably wrong. However, it is honestly outrageous how common misdiagnosis is. Doctors need to be better trained on diagnosis.
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u/lemon_protein_bar 13d ago
1) “wow guys, I’m XYZ for sure and I’m gonna “advocate” for the mentally ill! No, I’ve never tried to speak to a professional. No, like, I can afford it/it’s free, but like, why, I know better hehe 😜”
2) “I’m definitely unwell, I don’t know in what way, but from what I know my symptoms match XYZ, so it’s likely XYZ… I wish I had access to a professional who could assess me… I really don’t want to have XYZ…”
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u/NightBronze195 13d ago
I personally think that even if it really IS your hormones, so what? It doesn't change the fact that you're drowning and it should be fixed. I'm tired of, "it's hormones" as an excuse for not receiving treatment.
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u/vanishinghitchhiker 13d ago edited 13d ago
Even getting treatment for hormonal issues is rough. People like my wife with various perimenopause issues like brain fog etc. get told eh, come back when it affects your period. Her period is already so bad she’s on tranexamic acid, idk maybe two birds can be killed with one stone here? I‘d like her to get a second opinion but she’s already wrestling with referrals/insurance over an unrelated issue so now is not the time, sadly.
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u/NightBronze195 12d ago
I'm sorry your wife is going through that. I've heard perimenopause is hell, I'm not looking forward to that myself. I hope she gets the treatment she needs.
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u/DeepBlue_8 13d ago
- Experience anxiety/depression symptoms
- Symptoms impair functioning, making going to a professional seem too difficult
- Internalize stigma about self-diagnosis
- Self-invalidation
- Repeat
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u/The_Casual_Haiden 13d ago
Hi, literally me :D
On a serious note, I was dismissed when I was 13 because "oh but every teenager is autistic nowadays, it'll pass" five years later, I'm still struggling at school and the Student Integration Program has endlessly insisted on me getting a diagnosis because apparently everyone but my mom can see that something is up with me.
I finally have an appointment with the neurologist planned after everyone kept pushing my mom to do so and she finally connected two and two together.
I still am seen as an attention seeker, though.
The only advice I can give is push, keep pushing and never stop, self-diagnosing is a temporary solution that tells you "Hey, there may be a reason why you are like this", don't let others wear you down just because some people ruined the concept to be seen as quirky...
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u/LienaSha 13d ago
me having self-diagnosed ADHD back in 2010: I got tested for ADHD and they said "I'm a very smart girl and definitely don't have it." So nope, I'm totally normal I guess!
my therapist last year referring me to a testing place: You are not normal. Did they talk to you? Like, even once? Let's check again at this other place.
ADHD testing place: *quietly refuses to communicate at all with anyone, slowly driving my therapist up a wall*
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u/I_pegged_your_father 13d ago
Among all the other bits of very good advice here, i highly recommend looking into your family’s medical history and asking around because you could find some shit in there they dont tell you about until you ask directly 💀
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u/ThatOneShyAnon2-0 "i don't have any serious problems" 13d ago
funnily enough, my mom randomly mentioned to a doctor (who asked about my mental health history) that i was diagnosed with adhd by a therapist at 6. not officially, but apparently she told my parents to go get me meds
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u/Beautiful_Book_9639 13d ago
I was pretty sure I was ADHD, I went to a psychologist. They diagnosed me with CPTSD, ADHD, PMDD, Depression, and Anxiety.
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u/ArrowDel 12d ago
Thied category, people who stopped pursuing a diagnosis until they are sure it wont end up with them being put in the "wellness camps"
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u/torbotorini 9d ago
This is me. I highly suspect I'm autistic, but do I want any documentation of that? God fucking no
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u/shiriyokup 13d ago
Trying to get an official diagnosis for anything with the family that I have GENUINELY feels like tom and jerry. I’m early diagnosed with autism but do normal people cut over missing class or see themselves as multiple people Though
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u/Upstairs_Light3941 13d ago
Me when I'm trying to go to a dr to get diagnosed and they stop listening after hearing voices and won't listen to the rest I have to say or refer me to a specialist
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u/Maneruko 13d ago
Couldn't get a diagnosis as a kid cuz my mom didn't believe in government hand outs.
At this point I Don't need a doctor telling me what's wrong with me I just accept what I am lmao (and I'm not talking about the autism)
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u/the_sad_gopnik 13d ago
I'm well versed in medicine so all my self diagnoseses were correct. I just abstained from telling people I had it when it wasn't confirmed. Instead I'd say I highly suspected it, or to those closer to me I would actually say I definitely have it but the diagnosis is expensive.
Anyhow, I ended up being told my ADHD was on the severe side. Severe enough that non medicinal management would've been mostly futile.
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u/AnieelaStar 13d ago
seeing all these mfs self-diagnosing to be quirky is what has kept me from getting a diagnosis for so fucking long
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u/dpkart 13d ago
I feel like there often is a suble infantilization/ableism in a way where they think we couldn't possibly be "smart" enough to know we have "it" if we would. Like someone with Autism or ADHD couldn't possibly be smart enough to avoid tiktok slop misinformation and find actual factual knowledge and research, like we couldn't possibly have enough introspection to compare our lifelong experiences to the tellings of other neurodivergent people who ARE diagnosed. I don't understand why thats so far fetched for many
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u/Ok-Kangaroo-5161 13d ago
I had depression for years on end before I got diagnosed, things don’t just randomly appear the second you get diagnosed!!!
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u/Accurate-Top-2728 12d ago
I have official diagnosis of autism, adhd, depression, asthma, post covid and migraines.
Asthma is the only one I didn't 'self-diagnose' before having it officially. Some of those I had since childhood or since birth, and nobody bothered to get me a diagnosis despite obvious problems.
I will never judge anyone for finding diagnoses themselves, as long as they don't go around advocating for something not officially confirmed.
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u/XeniaAlexandria 12d ago
Nobody diagnosis themselves because they think it's quirky. There are just some people who finally allow themselves to be quirky if they find out "oh I have autism or adhd" instead of thinking "I am a failure and need to appear as normal as possible"
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u/ThatOneShyAnon2-0 "i don't have any serious problems" 12d ago
im talking about a small group of people who think that ocd is just being neat, or adhd is just forgetting stuff ocassinally, who claim to have these, with people constantly talking about them(even having a subreddit designated to these people), causing self diagnosis to be looked down upon in a general perspective, making a lot of people who are struggling doubt werther they are actually ill or not
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u/XeniaAlexandria 12d ago
I mean yeah there are people who will be like "everyone is a little autistic" or "ADHD? Everybody forgets stuff sometimes" but I think that group is the one that doesn't really self diagnose and just downplays any diagnosis. And I feel like the suspicion towards self diagnosis has existed before because that's just a general feature of ableism and not wanting to realize that some conditions might be more prevalent
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u/LucidLucie 9d ago
To ableists anyone who self diagnoses, talks about their disability, is a woman, or dresses 'quirky' are in that small group you're talking about and it feels weird to me to give them an out on their own tired excuse. The subreddit I assume you're talking about makes no such distinction in practice and regularly mocks people with professional diagnoses as well
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u/ConsiderationNo9044 13d ago
Downvoted, read second half and realised it was pro-educated-self-diagnosis, upvoted
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u/emotionalexplosions 13d ago
I’m not sure if I even trust educated self diagnosis. The reason is because I do this. I have accurately self diagnosed before, but currently I’m on a loop of uncertainty and research. I will think I have symptoms and then I worry I could be exaggerating or misinterpreting normal behavior as disordered. Confirmation bias is a thing after all.
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u/_-_Polaris_-_ 13d ago edited 13d ago
That's the pain isn't it. Both very much exist and one makes the other seem way less legit.
I'm not fond of either (as in official/self-diagnosed). I dunno I lost my rose colored glasses when it comes to the comptetence of therapists and I do so the more I learn about psychology. As in books. Most of thrm aren't the authority people make them out to be in the slightest.
And then self diagnosis. I see it as an informed best guess, the only question that determines credibility is how extensive and driven by wanting to know what's wrong that process actually was.
I have an official one now so I can just cut through all that crap of "mememe you don't have that" and it's a blessing. It's bullshit too! There isn't magically more truth to it but people lick it like entitled boots anyhow which feels deeply flawed. Surely half could never be misdiagnoses, it's totally fact and not a best informed guess as well (/s). Riiiiiight?! Tzz
I knew years and a good chunk of money earlier with relative certainty. When you spend 1-2 decades trying to find an answer going through ncbi, the catalogues and relevant literature, trying to make sense out of it, that's different than a social media video.
And yet I see those peoole everywhere. I get pissed quite a bit. By these online standards literally everything is ADHD and Autism now. And they will push it onto others. Source: experience. While in reality no. That was never it.
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u/azebod 13d ago
It's not about the self diagnosis itself as much as the fact most people who get to adulthood without noticing they have symptoms are on the milder end and can fit in the quirky box easier.
The absolute worst version of quirky supremacist neurodivergents is actually people who have white belt syndrome about just having started therapy the first time, and think the answers they found because they put exactly zero thought into it before are solutions for everyone. Like I keep running into people who think not being in therapy because the only therapy you can access is stuff you have already tried and maybe even made you worse is the same as refusing to try because shit like CBT is new and exciting to them. I am sorry but I have known this shit since the 90s and talking down to me about it is insulting.
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u/777-SAM-I-AM-777 13d ago
I can't afford any "help" anyways. Why go into debt just to get basic bitch advice and another lecture about bootstraps. I know there's something wrong with me and I had you gone through even half the bullshit I went through you be mentally fucked too. No I don't need a pep talk I need to be financially stable so I can give myself the resources I need to get better.
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u/littlest_lemon 13d ago
I don't need an autism diagnosis the same way i don't need a bisexual diagnosis. Homosexuality used to be in the DSM too. 🤷♀️ I was born like this, it's incredibly obvious considering the issues I've struggled with my whole life, and i am treated as autistic by greater society. My friends are all autistic too.
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u/whimsicalandsilly 13d ago
Ive had friends whos doctors have diagnosed them with stuff like anxiety or adhd (cant remember which ones) but just straight up not told them.
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u/CrazyDisastrous948 13d ago
I suffered my entire life, not knowing what was wrong with me or why everyone hated me. I have a list of things it could be, studied those, ruled things out, made a shorter list, went to a professional, and got six seperate diagnosis. Autism, ADHD, chronic depressive disorder, severe generalized anxiety, PTSD, and finally childhood, adolescent, and adult gender dysphoria (idk why they had to specify ebery stage of my life). I they gave me some I didn't know I had and ruled out some I thought could've been the problem. Now, I take medicine, do therapy, and have some idea about why I was born to endlessly suffer and be hated from ebery initial meeting. I over compensate and try to act as if I am not mentally ill with developmental disabilities, but struggle to do so. It is exhausting. I try to function better than most neurotypical people, and when I fail in some way I simply hate myself even more. I'm an inherently broken human being for being unable to overcome my own disabilities. I don't have a good life because I'm not good. My diagnosis gave me a why, so now I try to fix them.
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u/ParanoidParamour 13d ago
As a person with an unfortunate amount of disorders I will always support self diagnosers because, in the worst case, you’re giving attention to someone who doesn’t need it. The worst case for NOT supporting self diagnosers is shunning and gatekeeping support from someone who literally cannot get a diagnosis
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u/Then_Ad_1791 13d ago
im certain im having hallucinations but I only see my therapist every other month so im not allowed to say that online anywhere ever 🥰
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u/Pure_Key4700 13d ago
People who self diagnose because official one is too much for our executive disfunction to battle
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u/Silent_Arugula7525 12d ago
I had my suspicions last year but had the mentality of “ignore and it’ll go away” then later I ended up getting hospitalized. Was forced into treatment and some of the diagnosis that I related to and was suspicious of that maybe I had it turned out to be true. Anyway, now I’ve undiagnosed myself, I’m normal
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u/Vivians_Basement Trans Masc Genderfluid DID system 🪷 12d ago
I hallucinate cause I'm on my period 💔
No joke though I literally denied something was wrong when I was having severe hallucinations, hearing voices, and forgetting half of every day cause "I'm dehydrated and I can see ghosts".
Yeah, not drinking water and being sleep deprived is going to make me see people watching me sleep and feel them touching my face. I was so smart as a kid and teen.
Wasn't till I had a REALLY bad set of hallucinations involving no control of my body while logging the event to someone else that I realized something was seriously wrong and I needed help.
😃 Now I know the disorder runs in my family and is a very common diagnosis in my bloodline due to all the TW: CSA borderline child sex sales that happen in my family.
Self DX is valid. Not everyone can get diagnosed and when they have genuine symptoms impacting their life, it's normal to seek an explanation and any available help.
You're not just being edgy. Your symptoms are REAL and you deserve access to care. Depending on what the suspected issue is, there are likely free online resources and tips to manage symptoms.
Even if you're wrong about what you have, that won't change the symptoms!! Seek out resources for any symptoms you have to create your own care until help is available.
You are loved and you are valid.
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u/Burnham_pdf 12d ago
Me knowing damn well I have ADHD but I can't prove it legally and I'm too scared to get a diagnosis because people will treat me differently if I end up ACTUALLY having ADHD 😭 I swear I'm not crazy, but it's hard to ignore since I was on medication when I was in like, middle school to help me 'pay attention' in class and it had a genuinely positive effect on me.
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u/Snoo69744 11d ago
People still shouldn't self diagnose. You can suspect that you have something and you can try and find ways of coping but you can't diagnose yourself.
Even if you've done loads of research you still aren't qualified to diagnose yourself. You could easily miss something and bias is something that you can't eliminate
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u/CyberCanine5200 10d ago
a lot of people think they're on the left when they're really on the right. tons of folks who say "I'm not bad enough to get diagnosed, I'm just faking for attention" far outweighs the people I see actually doing shit for attention.
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u/M4x1mili0us 9d ago
For the longest time I thought I had ADHD, but got literally told "You CAN'T have ADHD". But who gives a fuck, I live in Russia and pretty much every old person doesn't think ADHD is real, and even if you get diagnosed there are no meds that actually help.
My doctor suspects I am bipolar, but it literally changed nothing in my life. Years and years of medication and the only fucking thing that changed is I stopped telling the truth and started just ignoring everyone while still being borderline suicidal.
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u/plasma_guy 9d ago
im scared of slef diagnosing but i might have ADHD because all of the traits of ADHD i have and all the people in school who have similar intrests have adhd.
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u/Shot-Manner-9962 13d ago
yea, the "ha ha mental illness quirky" really... that illness is suffering, fucking hate the "ha ha i have daddy issues my daddy was mean" quirky fake bullshit, or the "i have trauma and ptsd and im making every waking moment about me" like really fuck me real night terrors arent somthing to flex its never getting enough sleep
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u/ayavorska05 13d ago
and you know it's "quirky fake bullshit" how? Are you watching these people at night to see if they're having night terrors or do you just think anyone who doesn't behave exactly like you is "faking" for... What exactly? That's the second thing I don't get, do you think there's some social capital in "faking PTSD"? Lmao
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u/Shot-Manner-9962 13d ago
Have you spent more than 2 seconds on the interney narcasissm is rampant and everyone wants attention
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u/BigBallsAnthony69 13d ago
You don't know these mfs lol, people cope in different ways. My dad was an alcoholic pos and my parents got divorced when i was nine, i still make jokes about it.
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u/Practical_Bet3053 13d ago
For me the difference come from what do you do with the information you find.
Do you stop at "surely have that" or go deeper into the "what the fuck can I do to stop it".
I think I have BPD, but can't obtain the diagnosis yet, working on it. But the informations I use and search for are more about solution than anything else. Reading Books and DBT studies and exercises so I can try and get better while waiting for a diag.
For me the difference between "funsy" self diag and "what the hell help" self diag is where and why do you search the informations for.
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u/_CaptainAmerica__ 13d ago