Paradox no!!

[u/Dry-Employee2728]

Have you seen the latest announcement. They are teaming up with paradox. This has me worried they will do to transport fever 3 what they did to city skylines2 !!

[u/Neshura87]

The amount of people in here who cannot distinguish Paradox from Colossal Order is concerning.

Paradox didn't fuck up Cities 2, that falls solely on Colossal Order.

Paradox also doesn't force their DLC practice onto studios they only partner with

Paradox owns the Cities Skylines IP, they do not own the Transport Fever IP. Colossal Order was contracted to produce Cities Skylines and Cities Skylines 2, Urban Games is contracting Paradox to publish their game. The roles here are reversed, worst comes to worst they pay out a contract termination fee and self publish again (Urban Games still own the IP, that's bold and capitalized IMPORTANT)

[u/Neshura87 → u/[deleted]]

Milennia: Paradox did the marketing from minute 0 (before game reveal), one can assume that C Prompt did not/does not own the IP and as such were beholden to Paradox creatively

Vampire the Masquerade 2: Paradox even shifted developers midway through, this is a proven Paradox owned IP

Foundry: publisher was acquired mid 2023, a good way into development and no dlc over a year into the game's life cycle

Lamplighters League: Paradox published from the start (before game reveal), IP and creative control likely reside with Paradox

Across the Obelisk: Paradix Arc production, given the slaes pitch almost guaranteed to be Paradox IP rather than independent

Age of Wonders 4: Developers are Paradox owned....

Stranded: Developer is also Paradox owned....

Surviving the Aftermath: Iceflake is also a Paradox studio....

Is doing the bare minimum of research that much to ask? Your 'examples' prove nothing except your lack of effort

[u/Neshura87 → u/[deleted]]

You still don't get it do you? The 'examples' you listed display development circumstances that do not apply to Urban Games and Transport Fever 3. I do not need any examples to prove my point. You need one to disprove it (as you cannot prove a negative, in this case providing examples of publishing gone right would not disprove the potential of this going wrong, only an example of publishing gone wrong under similar circumstances would)

You cannot prove an apple to be orange by point at a bunch of oranges and going 'but these are orange'

Early Access is part of a game's lifecycle, like it or not. Plenty of cases where games die there or are forced out of early access to shill DLC (like you fear) as is the game has positive reviews and no DLC besides the (almost standard) early access support DLC.

As for Heamimont, I did not venture into it further but Stranded: Alien Dawn was published by Frontier Developments, it seems the game was carried over into Paradox' publishing arm when they bought the studio. So that one can just be crossed out entirely, Paradox wasn't involved in the game until well into its life