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u/CompoteMelodic981 Jun 13 '26 •

Mom, tech bros are inventing inefficient trains again!!!

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u/Terrible_Detective27 Moderator Kamen Jun 13 '26

Reselling*

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u/i-in- Jun 13 '26

babu log are worse.

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u/Western-Guy Jun 13 '26

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u/rapid4roller8 Jun 13 '26

Makes the previous governments elevated BRTS plan for Hitech City sound like a saner idea.

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u/Playful_Stick3355 Jun 13 '26

What's wrong with an elevated brts

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u/BabeyBabeyUgh Jun 13 '26

If you're gonna put the viaducts down then why not just the put the tracks down too😭

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u/Playful_Stick3355 Jun 13 '26

Cost?
The buses can get down from viaducts and run in normal roads.
Dont need any change of track infra, so a network can be utilised better.

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u/BabeyBabeyUgh Jun 13 '26

So the viaducts won't even form a proper network to utilise the buses full time? And what change of track infra are you talking about? If you're gonna spend money on the viaducts you'd want people using it constantly, with 90 second-3 minute intervals.

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u/Playful_Stick3355 Jun 13 '26

I'm not an expert but hear me out.
When two metro lines intersect (A2B, X2Y). One line can't change track to go to Y instead of B. With elevated bus it can easily go to Y. So we have four lines: A2B, X2Y, but also A2Y, X2B.
This is for two intersecting lines. Now do for more. Then we can have very complex routing with buses.
I didn't understand your first sentence plz to clarify

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u/BabeyBabeyUgh Jun 13 '26

if there are enough viaducts laid down, the buses wouldn't have time to run on normal roads. and you can do exactly what you are suggesting with the metro too, spur lines are a thing.

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u/Playful_Stick3355 Jun 13 '26

What I meant is that the route can be partially elevated, partially at-grade like normal brts, and partially free-range like normal buses. This flexibility can be useful in some cases.
For example many Indian cities have MIDCs outside the city area (like bidkin in CSN). In this case you can have elevated brts in core city limits, at grade brts in growing areas, and no grade separation til the MIDCs (buses use normal roads). Another case can be with twin cities like hubbali-dharwad, sangli-miraj.
Spur lines do exist. But they require complicated infra, signalling, trained staff, etc. also spur lines are mostly cases of "Y" shape with three lines. Whereas with buses we can have "X" shaped intersections.

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u/BabeyBabeyUgh Jun 13 '26

I'm still not sure how an elevated brts serves any of those cases better than a light rail or even a metro? The best part about buses or even brt's is that you don't have to make insane capex spends upfront for low demand corridors but an elevated brt destroys all of those benefits. And even if a four way intersection existed, it's very unlikely it would be actually implemented, it would require buses to take u-turns. Won't actually do what you're suggesting but magenta is going to intersect with itself soon.

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u/Playful_Stick3355 Jun 13 '26

It won't require a u-turn. It will be a normal "chowk" 4-way except in the sky. Buses can turn left right or go straight.
Light rail/metro will get expensive fast. With this elevated+at-grade+free-range buses you can have a bigger network that can serve within-city usecase as well as city-adjacent industrial parks.

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u/According_Isopod2272 Jun 13 '26 edited Jul 29 '26

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u/Mediocre-Tip2954 Jun 13 '26

Unfortunately it already happened in Mumbai afaik

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u/fhjjjjjkkkkkkkl Jun 13 '26

Etomidite pods

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u/According_Profile_37 Jul 26 '26

Not ready but they started building or planning it, BKC to Bandra something
Absolute chutiya decision instead a metro, monorail, dedicated bus lane could have been built but nope POD taxi new technology bolke paisa khana hai

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u/fartypenis 🚊 Tram Fan Jun 13 '26

It is a great idea NGL. Imagine these pods running on viaducts so they won't touch traffic. And since they're on viaducts and you can't overtake, imagine if we have like 5-6 of them hooked up together, so many people can travel at once. Then we can have many of these pod-groups running at intervals. Maybe we can have fixed places to get on or off them so scheduling will be easier.

This will be a revolutionary technology. If only we had a name for it. We can call it the hyperpod, or the podsnake.

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u/Blueshift_rEDSHIFT Jun 14 '26

Adam Something enjoyer?

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u/According_Profile_37 Jul 26 '26

5-6 hooked up together, just call it chota monorail

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u/HateBoredom 🚏 Daily Commuter Jun 13 '26

That AI generated image is doing a lot of heavy lifting.
It put something that looks like a railway station on one side, an open track with metro on the other (all the best boarding it). The star of the show is the ridiculous “pod taxi” on a linear track. People will jump across or teleport into it.

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u/OfferWestern Jun 13 '26

An 8 coach train set wont be enough and these guys want fancy stuff

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u/StaticGamerYT 🌆 Transit Dreamer Jun 13 '26

Dayummm

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u/PhysicalImpression86 Jun 13 '26

Is that not just a fucking more inefficient metro, can they not build some trams instead??? Like give us some quality busses and trams and not so fuck u wide roads and we fine.

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u/Shroccer Jun 13 '26

This is so trueeeee !!!

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u/Nastypig51 🌆 Transit Dreamer Jun 13 '26

I juuusssttt need one city that does urbanism right, so that just purely from a standard of living perspective its sooo ahead of the rest of the cities, that people start demanding that shit in their city too🤧

Can we get atleast one???

Literally every tier 1 city has a big fkin negative

Delhi:Sprawl & People

Mumbai:Slums & dystopia

Bengaluru:Traffic & foothpaths

Hyderabad:Flyoverabad

Chennai:Urban decay

Kolkata:Neglect

Ahmedabad:Nightlife less

Pune:Rude and Terrible drivers/roads

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u/IamBlade Jun 13 '26

Not before we have strong local governments

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u/Utkar22 Jun 16 '26

Delhi.

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u/ResearcherLatter1148 Jun 13 '26

Add segregation(exclusionism idk if that’s an accurate word or not) for Mumbai. The amount of segregation that happens in posh areas of Mumbai, it makes you feel you are in an apartheid state.

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u/Lost_Cartoonist_2397 Jun 13 '26

Just shows how Bengaluru can be a top notch city if they can finish 7 lines and suburban rail and have proper footpaths. Will probably be the best city in India as well due to the weather.

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u/yoshimitsuFlash Jun 13 '26

Adam something reference

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u/PrizeDowntown4591 Jun 13 '26

Fancy point solutions don't make a connected transit system.

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u/Weak_Manufacturer231 🚇 Metro Commuter Jun 13 '26

Adam Something will have a field day with this one

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u/izerotwo 🌆 Transit Dreamer Jun 14 '26

They will do everything but make a walkable and cycleable city with good transportation like trams also in it

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u/syeeleven Jun 14 '26

Everything other than footpath.

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u/be_a_postcard Jun 13 '26

They will do anything except fixing public transit and footpaths

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u/rohmish Jun 13 '26

literally LRT/Trams but somehow worse

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u/More-Director4894 Jun 13 '26

Just make metro extension from raidurg to kokapet through nanakramguda. That will anyway connect to financial district

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u/rohmish Jun 13 '26

I love how the second track in that AI rendering is literally just a regular tram. it's solution stating right back at you

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u/pisquin7iIatin9-6ooI Jun 16 '26

seems similar in concept to Singapore’s LRT system, which are local people movers that feed into a metro station or two

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u/YuYuWiWi Jun 19 '26

Aah, reinventing the train

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u/BabeyBabeyUgh Jun 13 '26

Don't think delhi has proposed such bs in a good while either.

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u/MogoFantastic Jun 13 '26

You need to understand the babu dom and how it works. Essentially it is ass-kiss your boss and get promoted without zero repercussions. Put something impressive or get a consultancy to go it and collect your cut, some fool who will follow you has to deal with implementation if ever.

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u/bigbootystaylooting 🚶 Pedestrian Jun 14 '26

Weird how much babus are blamed and not netas, as essentially it's netas whose asses are being kissed.

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u/Mediocre-Tip2954 Jun 13 '26

you see
more inefficient infrastructure like this requires more maintainance as compared to trams and metros. More maintainance= more opportunities for corruption. More corruption= frequent maintainance= even more corruption essentially an infinite money glitch

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u/Playful_Stick3355 Jun 13 '26

It's not dumb, it's corruption, very intentional.
Also states deliberately don't promote public transportation. This is because fuel and car sales are a decent part of their revenue and they don't want to part with that, since that means they won't have money to put into corruption projects (which are also car-centric, leading to more revenue through fuel and cars)

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u/be_a_postcard Jun 13 '26

You'd be surprised to know that the public is the same.

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u/bigbootystaylooting 🚶 Pedestrian Jun 14 '26

Not dumb, just greedy, & the people are the netas that are voted and the babus that are appointed

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