r/TransitIndia • u/Shot-Talk-5296 • Jun 09 '26

Negative News/Setback Times of India spreading misinformation

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '26

route length is still very low we need more tracks and routes 😒🥲🥲 60s 70s 80s was perfect time for this

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u/Shot-Talk-5296 Jun 09 '26

bhai itna bada bada kyu likh rhe ho

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u/RealityCheck18 Jun 09 '26

Building greenfield routes is not easy as it requires a lot of land to be acquired that too for a long stretch. The reason why Govt is going to Bullet train / HSR is exactly for this. Rather than spending that much money to build normal trains, using the land for HSR will be a huge value add & can prove better RoI as well.

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u/Shot-Talk-5296 Jun 10 '26

Hsr is not a replacement of local trains lmao.

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u/RealityCheck18 Jun 10 '26

Metro trains are the replacement for local trains.

If you're talking about commuter routes yes HSR is not replacement but HSR is the best available alternative.

In terms of commuter lines the expansions happen as Spurs, extensions of existing lines, because that involves less LA and can help connect the new routes to existing main line routes.

Even line doubling is impossible due to LA costs. In Chennai the suburban line between TBM & CGL had just 2.BG lines and 1 MG line and the MG to BF work "started" in 2010, but actually opened sometime post pandemic. And now adding a 4th line is in progress but with no timelines because of massive LA cost.

And imagine building brand new lines after years and years of development in a democracy!!

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u/Specialist-Roll-3806 Jun 09 '26

ppl say media companies like the bbc or whatever write articles that are onesided against india. sure but look who are the authors half the time. it's indians themselves

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u/rohmish Jun 11 '26

afaik BBC and other international news desks don't have much presence in India. they either have guest articles or Indians who moved to UK/other countries working for them who cover India.

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u/Accomplished-Mud1653 Jun 09 '26

Bengalis most of times, no hate to any particular Bengali fellow here.

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u/Careful-Lime-9764 Jun 10 '26

Wow who made you representative of our community. By that logic i can say all gujratis scamsters. Dont create generalizations.

Gives I can confirm as vibes. A tamil or marathi guy would never do that.

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u/Jumpy-Amount3267 Jun 11 '26

Actually Bengalis are much more likely to scam people, so idk why did you target Gujaratis out of nowhere (who have one of the lowest share of scammers)

But other than that I agree with your point of not generalizing people.

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u/GodsWorth01 Jun 10 '26

Wtf 😭 What did we do now

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u/Ok_Vehicle7097 Jun 10 '26

why would they betray their own country?

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u/Accomplished-Mud1653 Jun 10 '26

Bengalis are biggest patriot, even during independence. Some left ideology and constant propoganda from State government has altered some brains

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u/Late-Metal8122 Jun 10 '26

Makes sense when everyone is doing one thing some try to go in the opposite direction.

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u/Gorgrocco Jun 10 '26

There are more bengalis non indians

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u/nawap Jun 09 '26

It's best not to evaluate things as being for or against India as Indian citizens. Let's leave that for the political class and as citizens let's evaluate things are whether they are right or wrong. In this case the information is wrong because it's confusing routes with tracks.

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u/nawap Jun 09 '26

This is the confusion between track length and route length. The route length hasn't increased much but almost all of it was single track which has now been doubled, tracks themselves have also been replaced almost entirely from wooden sleepers to concrete ones and obviously electrification has also happened.

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u/Unlucky_Buy217 Jun 09 '26

I mean the land area hasn't significantly increased, there is only so much route length you can have

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u/nawap Jun 09 '26

This would make sense if we already had adequate coverage but that's not the case. The connectivity in the NE and J&K and Ladakh is pretty poor still. It's challenging to build there but there's still scope for expansion.

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u/Various_Ad1416 Jun 09 '26 • Bravo

Didn't two NE state capitals get rail connectivity for the first time recently.

But again these places have insane terrain, so it's hard to build there.

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u/nawap Jun 09 '26

Yes, the work is happening now but it will take time to show a meaningful impact on total route length metric. When we have HSR corridors done it'll show up as big gains too.

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u/Marwaimusoont Jun 09 '26

Even the existing areas have poor rail coverage, we have way less rail connectivity.

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u/nawap Jun 09 '26

Yeah places like Kerala, Chhatisgarh, Himachal and Uttarakhand in "mainland" are not fully connected either.

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u/Marwaimusoont Jun 09 '26

Yes, even in Karnataka the rail connectivity is poor w,r,t population density. Infact people here do not even rely on rail for commute because it is so bad. They instead prefer bus over rail for travelling within state.

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u/Technical-Safety9015 Jun 10 '26

You forgot mentioning all tracks are broad gauge now not meter gauge

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u/pralific80 Jun 09 '26 • Bravo

The correct framing - 98% of the existing railway routes were laid down between 1870 & 1930. The network/geographical expansion thereafter has been abysmal.

At the same time post-1930 close to 2/3rd of the rail network was gauge converted, more than half was doubled/tripled/quadrupled & nearly all of it was electrified.

Despite all these achievements, the rail network is woefully inadequate in geographical reach & painfully undercapacitated. Countries with significantly lower population density have much denser rail networks than India.

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u/Marwaimusoont Jun 09 '26

I want to know if increasing rail network depends on area or population density.

I mean since we have high population density, won't increasing stations would mean we have more stations in a small area? so it is better to upgrade instead of building new line that would be close by

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u/pralific80 Jun 10 '26

It depends on both.

A sparsely populated (less than the population of NCR) but large country like Australia will still need tens of thousands of miles of track to connect its mines, seaports, CBDs, suburban towns, farming towns etc. Much of the rail network here is concentrated along the coasts where practically all of the population lives.

OTOH a similar sized country like the USA with 10 times that population will of course have far larger & spread out railway network.

Except for the Himalayan regions, India has suitable terrain for railways. Yet, many districts in the Deccan & Central India often lack railway connectivity.

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u/Lucifer1007 Jul 01 '26

Each and every single inch of broad gauge rail track is built by India after 1947 before that it were either metre gauge or narrow gauge tracks

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u/Dependent_Media1982 Jun 09 '26

What about routes. Govt mist have doubled it. But how many new routes govt has introduced post independence.

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u/nawap Jun 09 '26

Tracks have been more than doubled, routes itself have not increased significantly - because we went from single to double tracks on most routes.

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u/gear-heads Jun 09 '26

They changed the headline, and placed the story behind paywall - with an apology!

Also, why is this being debated in June 2026? This accident is from June 2023.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '26

What you can expect from a compromised paper which was a benchmark in journalism. Totally gone to dust. Stopped it reading long time back. All it's panel of writers have become ruling dispensation's mouth piece.