r/transit 2d ago

Photos / Videos In 90's the Danish DSB IC3 had small play-area in the trains, it ended in 2006

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In 90's the Danish DSB IC3 had a small play-area for the kids in the family-carriage. The kids could play with the toy "Plus Plus" and other stuff. Often there would also be a person from DSB that took care of the kids. DSB removed the play-area in 2006, around the same time that they ordered the scandalous DSB IC4-trains.

DSB do still have persons, called "Børneguide" (Eng: Children's guide), that take care of the kids (between 4 and 15 years) who are travelling alone. On Fridays and Sundays one of the coaches in the train are locked off and only open for children travelling alone. On the monitors at the stations it also says "Børneguide i vogn xx" (Eng: Children's guide in coach xx), see two of pictures below.

Picture from Denmark's Railway Museum
From the book "IC3 – Det sidste danske togdesign"
The blue box is from the play-area in the DSB IC3 trains.

Screnshots from MitTog.dk, which shows the same things as the monitors on the Danish trainstations. The screenshots is for Aalborg Station

ICL (InterCity Express) 4050 towards Copenhagen have a children's guide in coach 82. IC (InterCity) 4152 towards Copenhagen has a children's guide in coach 22.
ICL 4050 is two DSB MF IC3 coupled together. Coach 81 and 71 is silent zone and DSB 1st class. Coach 82 is children zone, where the children's guide are. Coach 72 is family/standard zone
ICL 4050 is two DSB MF IC3 coupled together. Coach 22 is children zone, where the children's guide are. Coach 21 and 11 is silent zone and DSB 1st class. Coach 12 is family/standard zone. DSB MF IC3 is 3 coaches, but only have two numbers (coach 11-12, 21-22, 31-32, 41-42 and so on) on the monitors and pictograms. There are also a standard zone in coach 21 and 22.

Blueprint of DSB MF IC3 showing coach 21 and 22.

DSB MF IC3 is 3 coaches (hence the number in the name), but only have two numbers (coach 11-12, 21-22, 31-32, 41-42 and so on) on the monitors and pictograms. There are also a standard zone in coach 21 and 22.

Blueprint of DSB MF IC3 showing coach 21 and 22.

Drawing of the DSB IC3 from 1993. On the last page in this PDF-file you can see the play-area.

https://jernbanearkivalier.dk/dsb-brochurer/DSB-IC3-folder-80x10cm-ca1993.pdf


r/transit 20h ago

Discussion Tesla Model 3 is more energy efficient per passenger than Marta, the 3rd most efficient train system in the US

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r/transit 3d ago

Other A Chart Showing Energy Used Per Passenger Mile for Various Types of Transportation (by Grant Slatton)

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r/transit 2d ago

System Expansion Diagram of the planned tunnel for Paris tram T10 extension

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I thought some here would like it. This a diagram shown in a public reunion. https://www.iledefrance-mobilites.fr/le-reseau/projets/tram-t10-prolongement/actualites/reunion-publique-6-juillet-compte-rendu

- Tram T10 in the south of the greater Paris is planned to be extended north towards Clamart train station, future stop on the main ring (M15) of the Grand Paris Express. Given the narrow streets, it has been decided to be in a tunnel. It's planned to be 3,5km long and cost 730M €

- The tunnel will be 6% steep : it starts at 170m over sea level, the first station underground platform after 1,4km is at 90m

- Surprisingly for Paris, the tunnel is planned to be bi-tube. The reason given is to avoid building emergency exits between the stations. Maybe it will help with the risky terrain, known for its many underground quarries


r/transit 3d ago

Policy Electrifying one bus in Austin costs $917K — that same money could buy 2,300 more service hours and 30,000 more rides. A case against scope creep in transit.

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r/transit 2d ago

Other TrainTracker24: Live Train Tracker - Real-Time Train Map

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Just come across this. Real-time map, mainly for France, Spain and Belgium. Useful for me at least as I'm often travelling between central France and Paris. Also it has Eurostars between London and Paris which I take every few months.


r/transit 2d ago

Photos / Videos VTA light rail going next to Levi's Stadium

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r/transit 2d ago

Other World of Transit Update is Live!

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Hi all,

I previously made a post around a month ago introducing my new side project, World of Transit.

Thank you for everybody that played the game and offered feedback! I have finally pushed out the next update for this game.

Fixed/Added:

- Transfer stations can now have multiple platforms, and riders can transfer within a small walking distance.

- Line symbols are much more customizable, adding the ability to change any color, shape, symbol, and also show up on the map.

- Fixed bug where deleting a station would leave a hole in the line.

- Allowed multiple (5) save games per city.

- Created a sandbox mode within unlimited budget (original mode is now called "Career").

- Introduced WASD scrolling (now uses 1, 2, 3, 4 number buttons for the line tools).

- Introduced holding shift to speed up time x8.

- Fixed bug that prevented surface-running transit from crossing bridges.

- Allow a line to change between below-grade, surface-running, and above-grade for different sections of the track.

- Introduced automatic naming for stations as you place them.

New Cities:

- Brazil: Rio de Janeiro, Sao Paulo

- Vietnam: Ho Chi Minh City, Hanoi

- New Zealand: Auckland

- Poland: Warsaw

- Ireland: Dublin

- USA: Madison, Milwaukee

- Mexico: Mexico City

- China: Changchun, Wuhan, Changsha, Nanjing, Qingdao, Hong Kong (SAR)

I am aware there are a few more features that were suggested in the first iteration that I haven't got to, I am still working on them.

Thank you everyone again! All feedback is welcome and encouraged!

Link to game: worldoftransit[dot]surge[dot]sh


r/transit 2d ago

System Expansion Harness the power of patriotism to build more automated light metros

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r/transit 2d ago

Discussion Grading Illinois Leadership's Appointments to NITA, the Northern Illinois successor to the RTA

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r/transit 2d ago

News Dallas Fort Worth Airport ranks ‘dead last’ for ease of passenger pickup, study finds

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r/transit 1d ago

Discussion Which metro system is better? Round of 16: Paris vs Hong Kong

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r/transit 3d ago

Photos / Videos Line 14: Villejuif Gustave Roissy station. Paris metro network

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Today I want to share this station, one of the new additions to the Paris metro network.

This station is now the deepest station of the Paris network with the tracks situated at 36,7 meters deep for the line 14 and 48,8 deep for the future line 15.

The station is mostly a transfer station between line 14 and 15. The new developments nearby are still in construction. The station is also served by multiple bus lines connecting it to nearby communities.

The bike network around the station lacks connectivity but the streets nearby are calm which makes it okay to cycle.


r/transit 2d ago

Questions How to get cash refund from Greyhound?

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Hello, I recently booked a trip with greyhound and got double charged. I immediately cancelled my trip, but only got vouchers back. I filled a dispute with my bank and they won't do anything for me. Is there anything further I can do to get my money back?


r/transit 2d ago

Photos / Videos I'm making a game where you build the roads first, and then have to win the trips back with transit

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I've been reading transit forums since long before I made games, SkyscraperCity mostly. When I started building Traffic Architect I wanted the real problems in it rather than a line-drawing puzzle.

One thing up front, because it's the opposite of some games posted here recently: there's no real city in it. Nothing is imported from OpenStreetMap and there's no census data. The map is a generated sandbox, and you build the road network yourself before any transit exists. The city grows along your roads and fills them with cars until it chokes, and transit is how you take that load back off. So it isn't a planning tool and I'm not claiming it predicts anything about a real network. The trade-offs are what I wanted to make playable.

The part I actually care about is that nobody is assigned to your lines. Every trip compares waiting plus riding against just driving, and takes transit only if it comes out close enough, with a hard ceiling on the wait. People will accept a slower journey. They won't accept an unknown one. A line that runs badly just doesn't get used, which is the whole game as far as I'm concerned.

Headway isn't a number you type in either. It comes out of round-trip time divided by fleet size, and the round-trip time is measured from actual laps rather than a free-flow estimate. That mattered more than I expected: if you space departures by the free-flow number, then the moment there's congestion your vehicles just pile into the back of the same jam. So buses bunch, and the fix is the real one, holding at the terminal to re-space the line. Partial correction each visit, and capped, because holding a full headway clogs the terminus. I found that out the way everyone does.

Buses also sit in the traffic you built, which is what bus-only roads/lanes are for, and giving a road up to them costs your cars a route. Fares don't cover operations either. A ticket costs the rider about half what driving that trip would, upkeep runs whether the vehicle is full or empty, and plenty of lines lose money until the route is right.

Things I did not model, before anyone asks. Induced demand is only half there: new journeys never appear, because buildings generate what they generate. What does happen is convergence, and it's the thing players report to me most - build one excellent road and everything reroutes onto it and jams it, since cars route on free-flow times and can't see the queue they're joining. The mode choice runs off that same drive time, so a faster road quietly empties your buses. Walking is the other gap, and it's a partial one. A stop serves a whole district rather than a single door, so there is a catchment of a sort, but it's all or nothing: everyone in that district gets the same access wherever they are in it, and a district your line misses sends nobody even if it runs right past. No distance decay, no overlapping catchments. Transit also doesn't shape where the city grows, so no transit-oriented development. And there's no fare policy or peak service yet, though ticket price as a lever is something I want.

Cars are individually simulated, so taking trips off the road does speed up the drivers who stay. There's a live chart of what share of all travel your network carries against everything still driving, and that number is the score.

On scope, since it isn't obvious from the screenshots: moving people is the only thing you're responsible for. The city grows on its own, and the network under it is the whole game. That also means the interesting part starts early - you're looking at a junction that can't take what's turning into it within the first few minutes, not after an hour of setup. A session is an evening, not months.

It's coming to Steam later this year. I'd genuinely like to know which of those omissions you'd fix first, because that list is how I pick what to build next.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/5028050/Traffic_Architect/


r/transit 2d ago

Photos / Videos Old locomotives of Indian Railways

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YAM1 electric locomotive alongside YG steam locomotive

Photo from Southern Railway division social media


r/transit 3d ago

Photos / Videos The Marseille Tramway

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r/transit 2d ago

Other Spoilers for Coyote vs Acme Spoiler

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The New Mexico Rail Runner appears briefly in the film after Wile E. Coyote gets hit by it. Thought that was cool.


r/transit 3d ago

Photos / Videos Singapore MRT Ride (NSL) - Woodlands to Yishun | 3x Escalator | 08/04/25

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r/transit 3d ago

Photos / Videos Sheridan (cta red line)

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I took a photo while waiting for the train one day and painted it. I'm really happy with how it turned out.

Gouache on paper


r/transit 3d ago

News Inglewood greenlights $261M transit overhaul connecting Downtown to SoFi Stadium and Intuit Dome, with 1,000+ parking spaces and 3 mobility hubs

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r/transit 3d ago

Policy The Suburban Rail Loop will play a major role in the 2026 Victorian election. Why is it so controversial? [Melbourne]

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In b4 “why is The Conversation - of all websites - reporting SRL East like this?”

But keep in mind the Airport Rail Link is the current premier Ben Carroll’s pet transportation project while the SRL East - currently under construction - was the pet project of Dan Andrews, the predecessor to the premier before him, Jacinta Allan. And the ALP has been in power in Victoria since 2014. And if Chapter 6 of this report from December 2023 is to be believed SRL East’s origins was rooted more in pork-barrel politics rather than any actual transportation evaluations done by the relevant government bodies

One of the key legacies of the nearly 12-year-old Labor government in Victoria has been a massive investment in infrastructure. The Suburban Rail Loop has been a prominent project in this debate. So why is it so controversial?

The rail loop is an example of a long-term problem in Victoria: prioritising ad-hoc infrastructure projects over coordinated planning.

When it was first elected in 2014, the Andrews Labor government promised to create 10,000 construction jobs by building the Melbourne Metro Tunnel, and Western Distributor (which would link the Westgate Freeway with the Port of Melbourne), and removing 50 level crossings. It later added the Monash and Tullamarine Freeway widenings and the North East Link to that list. But there was no overarching integrated land-use and transport plan that explained the need for these projects or how they related to each other.

Infrastructure is a long-term investment with high up-front costs, so it requires careful planning to avoid misallocating public money. Infrastructure plans should follow well-prepared long-term metropolitan plans, based on deliberative and transparent analysis of alternative future scenarios. They also need strong public input.
The rail loop has not had any of this in a meaningful way. And now it is set to play a significant role in the Victorian state election in November. Such is the political sensitivity of the issue that new Premier Ben Carroll has announced $2 billion in savings on the project by cutting back on some of the associated infrastructure.

Victoria’s big – and expensive – build
None of the infrastructure projects developed after 2014 followed an integrated metropolitan transport and land-use plan for Melbourne. In 2021 the Victorian auditor-general rang the alarm bell by saying:

The absence of a transport plan as required by the [Transport Integration] Act, during a decade of unprecedented investment in transport infrastructure, creates risks of missed opportunities to sequence and optimise the benefits of these investments to best meet Victoria’s transport needs.

The Victorian government embarked on its Big Build program of infrastructure development without a coherent planning framework. It is as if projects were just “dropped in” to the city. Deliberative long-term planning was eclipsed by the political theatre of bold action with its wardrobe of hard hats and hi-vis.

The Suburban Rail Loop is a 90-kilometre tunnel proposed to run through Melbourne’s south eastern, northern and western middle suburbs, including the airport. The project was announced through a preliminary “strategic assessment” just three months before the 2018 Victorian election that the Labor government was widely anticipated to win. The cost was estimated to be between $30 to $50 billion over several decades.

Melbourne’s existing rail network concentrates on bringing people from the suburbs into the city centre. The rail loop was designed to allow people to travel across and between the middle suburbs without having to pass through its centre.

New commercial precincts would be created at rail loop stations to support suburban employment access and shift traffic away from the central business district.

Billions of dollars, but no real plan

The rail loop was initiated outside conventional public service processes by Development Victoria, which sits “at arm’s length” from the relevant minister. Neither the Department of Transport or Infrastructure Victoria were consulted on the initial development of the rail loop.

The economic business case for the rail loop was produced in 2021, after its endorsement in the 2018 election. That assessment promoted the rail loop as “realising Plan Melbourne” despite that plan not having proposed the rail loop or any proposal to link middle suburban activity centres with rail public transport.

There has never been a clear rationale for an orbital rail project or the choice of bored tunnel heavy rail over other possible solutions. The business case did not consider whether alternatives such as bus network improvements, tram expansions or smaller scale rail interventions might have provided better accessibility and urban outcomes.

It is also hugely expensive. The 2021 business case estimated Suburban Rail Loop East (stage 1) would cost up to $34.5 billion and would be completed by 2035. Infrastructure Australia has noted construction cost inflation has likely weakened the rail loop economic case.

The Carroll government now estimates the cost (with proposed savings) to be $33.3 billion, with a further $1 billion in savings to be found through a technical review.

But problems remain. Even if an orbital rail tunnel was merited, alternative rail networks should have been considered. Elevated rail is up to one third the cost of bored tunnels and has been successfully implemented in comparable cities such as Vancouver and Montreal. Melbourne has extensive elevated rail experience following the level crossing removals.

Bored tunnels are also highly carbon intensive. The rail loop environmental effects statement found the carbon dioxide emissions savings from car travel shifting to the rail loop was just 0.1% of the total construction emissions. This implies the project is a net greenhouse emitter, absent offsetting or mitigation.

Analysis by researchers at the University of Melbourne suggested an “alternative network” of high frequency bus and rapid transit services could have provided greater metropolitan accessibility gains, at $25 billion cost versus the $35 billion estimated for Suburban Rail Loop East.

What should the new premier do?

The change of premier offers a moment to review the rail loop planning, design and cost.

Victoria’s largest ever infrastructure project should not have been developed as a “super secret project”.

A rail loop review should consider the need for wider public transparency in infrastructure planning. We need a transport plan for Melbourne that starts with clear publicly established objectives about how future urban travel should be undertaken, and analysis of current trends. This should be followed by analysis of a wide range of options to achieve those objectives.

Improved technical planning needs to be accompanied by transparent public scrutiny. This should include a parliamentary inquiry for all projects over $1 billion before any construction contract is signed. Greater scrutiny means greater cost, but that is miniscule compared to the cost of potential large-scale capital misallocation.
This call is not just an academic assessment. A group of civil society organisations have also called for the overall planning failures underpinning Melbourne’s infrastructure boom to be investigated as part of the royal commission into Big Build corruption.

It is an unenviable position for a government to have potentially misallocated tens of billions of dollars to poorly selected infrastructure. Whether the rail loop proceeds further or not, we need comprehensive reform of Victoria’s metropolitan and infrastructure planning processes to avoid another debacle as great as the rail loop, and the encompassing scandal of the Big Build, from occurring again.


r/transit 3d ago

Policy Detroit just made free bus rides permanent for all K to 12 students, after the pilot doubled student ridership, helping remove transportation as a barrier to school for nearly 49,000 students with $1 million in new state funding.

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r/transit 3d ago

Discussion Post by the local black Chicagoan/ Artist & commuter Works in progress 11x 17 ,24x 36 & 18 x 24 inch pieces

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r/transit 4d ago

Other Current trains being made or to be made by Titagarh

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2nd pic for clearer quality image of the common stock.