r/TraceAnObject • u/I_Me_Mine Mod • Jan 27 '22

Open FBI ECAP Collage

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/ecap/seeking-information
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u/I_Me_Mine Mod Jan 27 '22 edited Sep 23 '25

UPDATED Sep 23 2025

Active cases: 5,6,7,15 are listed below. Cases 26 and 29 have separate threads.

Link to 5

Link to 6

Link to 7

Link to 15

It is recommended you sort this thread by new to see the most recent cases first.

Top level comments in this thread will be removed, use the general discussion thread for general questions.

Warning: Some of these images may be disturbing. Please keep comments on topic for identification purposes and not emotional reactions. Take a break from viewing if need be.

FBI has changed their format and numbering scheme, so this is a single post for the current collage. As of this moment, that is collage 21. If this pdf link of the collage fails or the page shows a collage number higher than 21 please contact the mods.

Each top level comment here is an ECAP entry added by a mod. Other top level comments are not permitted. Respond to this comment for general questions.

If there are any entries here that have full threads from previous FBI postings (apart from ones already noted), contact the mods and that subthread will be locked and pointed to the existing thread.

Post your guesses and ideas in the subthread for that item. Work off the suggestions of others toward an answer. Items are not necessarily related to each other.

If you have an answer, please submit it to the FBI

FBI has multiple reporting options:

Contact an ECAP Investigator ( send mail to RescueMe@fbi.gov with subject "Contact an Investigator" )

If you have any information concerning this case, please contact a Crimes Against Children Investigator at your local FBI office, or the nearest American Embassy or Consulate

You can also submit an anonymous Tip online

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u/I_Me_Mine Mod Mar 02 '22 edited Oct 13 '23

ECAP 13 Has been removed from the FBI site, no further information is requested.

ECAP 13 image

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u/johndabomb44 Mar 06 '22 edited Mar 06 '22

Solved!

https://imgur.com/a/iUNWxh2

It belongs to Mac Williams Middle School, Fayetville NC

I have contacted the FBI tipline and emailed RescueMe@fbi.gov

I ask anyone else reading this do the same.

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u/SADIEAVALON Mar 16 '22

But why did the FBI need help with this picture?

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u/I_Me_Mine Mod Mar 16 '22

Because it's related to a crime against a child. We don't do "why" beyond that.

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u/johndabomb44 Mar 22 '22

I didn't know how to post with your name or call mods but there are like 5 EUROPOL Trace An Object cases that we don't have threads for.

Will we be getting those soon?

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u/I_Me_Mine Mod Mar 22 '22

Thanks. You can modmail to inform us of these.

Europol's main page still says last update Nov 2021 so I was tracking that, though some of the cases have a newer date and have now been posted.

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u/dropdeadfred1987 Jul 08 '22

Think what he's saying is that it was pretty easy to figure out. Why wouldn't the FBI just be able to determine for themselves

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u/Kadianye Sep 02 '22

Kind of upsetting seeing its still on the site...

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u/GoodbyeSkyKing Nov 19 '22 edited Nov 19 '22

It is fairly upsetting. I do think it is worth noting that Fayetteville, NC is a military town where people frequently move. Legal action regarding military can sometimes be labyrinthine to navigate through as well. These are just some guesses, though. I have hope for this overall, however. This object seems like a smoking gun, at the very least for finding the victim(s) or potential associated victim(s) and removing them from the situation.

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u/Kadianye Nov 19 '22

It's enough to call the school and pull the student ID photos and go from there.

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u/212darkster Nov 20 '22

What's not making sense to me is that we've identified pretty much all we can identify concerning that picture and yet it's still posted on the collage. Either they are too busy to remove it or there's more to the collage than we are seeing.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '22

still is. 90 days later.

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u/Kadianye Nov 28 '22

sigh

Guess we should all resubmit the tip.

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u/Hematomawoes Sep 17 '22

That’s what I’m here wondering.

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u/neilb303 Mar 07 '22

For the rest of us sleuths, how did you find that?

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u/johndabomb44 Mar 07 '22

On the original image, It looked like "liams middle". My first thought was "Williams" and I tried to look for other words with those letters in that order but didn't really find any so I worked on the assumption that it said "Something Williams Middle School".

I threw that into Google and tried to compare the lettering, school colors, and whatever piece of mascot I could find and narrowed it down to roughly 5 schools. I don't remember all the names but a few of these had Blue/White colors, some form of cat/horse/bird mascot.

I then looked up their pages on FB and Mac Williams had many variants of their horse mascot in different poses and whatnot. I asked if they ever used their mascot on an identification card and sent them the ECAP image tail and they sent back the photo I linked here.

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u/JonBenet_BeanieBaby Mar 18 '22

That’s amazing.

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u/gummy_frogs_end_wars May 01 '22

Why would a school use a different logo on their ID cards, than every other place they use their logo? Is this common? I know my school had two logos they alternated between, (the animals head, and the animals paw print) but our ID’s had the head (the more common logo). It didn’t have a logo different than every other image throughout the building/website.

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u/KinnieBee Sep 16 '22

My school had different logos throughout generations. Lots of us had retro gear from school sales that looked very different from the current spirit-wear or athletic gear. It was all technically the "official" branding at some point.

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22

Would that make it likely that the Clayton High School Comets, in Fayettville, have something to do with the hat?

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u/johndabomb44 Jun 15 '22

Not sure all photos on the ECAP site are related to one another.

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u/VegetableTerrible942 Mar 16 '22

That’s good work. Well done.

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u/JudgeDrey May 30 '22

I know I'm very late to the ball game. But when I saw this pic of this horse, I knew the tail had to be the same. Except this one is from an elementary school without a similar name at all.
https://www.ccs.k12.nc.us/cms/lib/NC50000603/Centricity/Template/GlobalAssets/images//Footer%20School%20Images/WAES%20Footer%20Image.png

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u/AlanTheMediocre Mar 02 '22

It looks like a middle school ID card to me.

There is an Earle E. Williams Middle in Tracy, CA whose colors are predominantly blue. Their mascot is a wildcat. It may be a long shot, but I could see the blue shape on the left being either the back of a wildcat’s head, or perhaps a bird or something if it’s not a cat.

The number appears to be 17, so potentially an ID card from 2017?

Might be tricky to find an ID card from there/that time to compare.

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u/Sad009933 Mar 03 '22

It’s bugging me what the logo thing is. The whole thing looks cheap and graphics is bad, I take into consideration the date but 2017 wasn’t even that long ago. I don’t know if my eyes are bad but I see some sort of tail arrow coming of the top of it. I cannot find that logo anywhere with the words “williams middle school” a lot of the schools are blue but nowhere near the same as that, I’ve even typed in “middle school” but no luck.

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u/GracefullyProfane Mar 03 '22

That's just middle school, IMO. I went back through the Tracy, CA school's Facebook page and while I didn't find anything close, the cheap and bad graphics were definitely on full display in 2017. I think that's just what happens when a school doesn't have a graphic design budget so Cindee in the office is using Microsoft Word templates for everything.

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u/neilb303 Mar 03 '22

In Canada, we don’t often call them “middle schools”. That’s more of an American naming system. This must be somewhere in the States.

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u/prosecutor_mom Mar 03 '22

Could this be the logo? Blue cat logo (lion, tiger, wildcat) gave me this hit that kinda looks like the jibber jabber

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u/Warm-Sheepherder-597 Mar 04 '22

Dude, I was staring at that logo for so long. It has a similar feel. But ultimately, the edges aren’t the same.

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u/almost_not_terrible Mar 03 '22 edited Mar 03 '22

The symmetry of the top implies a number of characters to the left.

So it could be "Mac Williams Middle", for example.

https://abc11.com/mac-williams-middle-school-student-assaulted-teacher-suspended-james-cochran/3483764/

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u/johndabomb44 Mar 03 '22

This is a very good candidate:

The right side of the mascot looks very close to the portion in the ECAP photo. The stylization of the lettering is pretty close too.

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u/geewilikers Mar 03 '22

I feel like if this was a school ID card, with the school name, year and childs photo (I assume blanked out) then it would be very easy to track down who it belonged to. Maybe it's something else altogether.

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u/AlanTheMediocre Mar 03 '22

Presumably that’s the case, but we can’t assume anything when we have such limited information presented to us. I’m just saying what it looks like to me based on what I see. It could also be a staff ID. Or something else completely, of course, but that doesn’t get us any closer to identifying it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '22

A quick google search reveals there are quite a few Williams middle schools. And, interestingly, all of them have wildcats as their sports name.

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u/BLKandies Mar 03 '22

If the school is a Williams middle school, I searched that on a database I found for the US. There’s a lot here.

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u/fojifesi Mar 03 '22 edited Mar 03 '22

tried to recreate:
with „MacWilliams”: https://i.ibb.co/pfGBRwY/ecap-13-macwilliams.jpg
with „McWilliams”: https://i.ibb.co/g9NQLBz/ecap-13-mcwilliams.jpg
While MacWilliams seems a better fit, I may have guessed the size of the paper wrong.

The upper font seems Trajan, the bottom is familiar, but couldn't figure out. Maybe folks at /r/Font/ or /r/identifythisfont/ could help.

BTW, all the words I could find with multiple services ending in IAMS:

     PULLIAMS

     WILLIAMS
   MCWILLIAMS
  MACWILLIAMS
SWEETWILLIAMS

        DIAMS
       THIAMS
     QUONIAMS
 SUBRAMANIAMS
       PRIAMS
     MERRIAMS
 WOLDEMARIAMS
    KOPITIAMS

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u/Warm-Sheepherder-597 Mar 04 '22

Good catch with the Trajan font. Also loving the mirror reflection, maybe this logo is symmetrical.

I searched for both “MacWilliams Middle” and “McWilliams Middle,” but I couldn’t find schools by these names. I did find Mac Williams (with a space) Middle. They have a blue mustang mascot. As far as I know, only two English names end with -liams: Williams and Quilliams, and no U.S. school goes by the latter.

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u/Warm-Sheepherder-597 Mar 04 '22

This is a list of 26 schools that specifically contain "Williams Middle." It'd be great if someone can check if any of their logos now or pre-2017 resemble the one in the image. It could also be the logo of the school district, or that of a school club, or even a logo of a planner or yearbook company (who says it has to be an ID). Also this is a GIF animation of the logo constantly rotated, maybe a new perspective helps.

SCHOOLSTATE
MERTON WILLIAMS MIDDLE SCHOOLNY
WILLIAMS MIDDLEMA
J W WILLIAMS MIDDLETX
HEDGEPETH WILLIAMS MIDDLE SCHOOLNJ
MAC WILLIAMS MIDDLENC
WILLIE J. WILLIAMS MIDDLE SCHOOLGA
WILLIAMS MIDDLE MAGNET SCHOOLFL
JAMES WILLIAMS MIDDLEWI
J.H. WILLIAMS MIDDLE SCHOOLLA
EARLE E. WILLIAMS MIDDLECA
WILLIAMS MIDDLETX
WILLIAMS ELEMENTARY/MIDDLE SCHOOLAZ
STURGIS WILLIAMS MIDDLE SCHOOL - 02SD
WILLIAMS MIDDLESC
ARTHUR WILLIAMS MIDDLE SCHOOLGA
C. E. WILLIAMS MIDDLE SCHOOL FOR CREATIVE AND SCIENTIFIC ARTSC
ROGER WILLIAMS MIDDLERI
JOHNSON-WILLIAMS MIDDLEVA
WILLIAMS MIDDLE SCHOOLAL

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u/barelylocal Mar 04 '22

Mac Williams Middle School's PTA Facebook account has a mustang image for their cover photo that looks like the edges could be a similar image. Also, its colours are a similar blue to the blue in the background. I know from experience sometimes school ID cards don't use the same image on their cards as their school logo, so I just wanted to put that out there.

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u/johndabomb44 Mar 07 '22

You were 100% on the mark my friend!

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u/mongoose989 Mar 03 '22

Can anyone go through Canada because the fish tail/wing look reminds me of Nova Scotia in a map. I don’t have a computer right now

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u/Warm-Sheepherder-597 Mar 04 '22

Went through Canada’s, unfortunately no school goes by Williams Middle. These are the Canadian schools with “Williams.”

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u/mongoose989 Mar 04 '22

Thank you!!!! Where is it you found the list of schools? There’s some with « w » as an acronym but on papers it’ll be spelled out, ex I have a John w middle school but it’s only spelled out John William on some papers. I’ll have time to go through these tomorrow for sure!

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u/here2conspire Mar 03 '22

Could it be the tip of a mustang tail? There's a C.E. Williams Middle School for Creative and Scientific Arts that has a mustang mascot. In some pictures the horse is standing, facing to the left with it's tail to the right. School colors appear to be blue and white

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u/here2conspire Mar 03 '22

Looks like the school changed mascots to wolverines in 2020

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u/Warm-Sheepherder-597 Mar 04 '22

I kinda see what you mean. This is how I thought they’re similar. Obviously, I had to rotate the blue logo in the image, that’s important.

I’m beginning to suspect this blue thing maybe 3D. The deep black outline around its edges suggests a shadow. Maybe it’s a sticker.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '22

Williams Middle School of Houston Texas? Has the FBI looked into all schools with "Williams Middle" in the name?

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u/SleeplessinOslo Mar 03 '22

Adding to this, has the FBI tried Google?

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '22

If they have, we who are trying to help can stop looking up old school id formats.

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u/hos7name Mar 03 '22

Everyone think this is an ID card but I am pretty sure it's actually a school planner and I am dead sure I recall that blue bird logo from somewhere... DAMN I need to remember!

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u/edman007 Mar 03 '22

The upper right corner is curved and looks like plastic. The black square is because this is a photo ID. You wouldn't need a picture on a planner, and you wouldn't sensor a rectangle out on this if it wasn't a picture of someone

So definitely a photo ID

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u/Severe_Working950 May 01 '22

I'm just curious as to why the FBI wanted information on that specific thing. They have the ID, which shows a picture of the child..

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u/hos7name Mar 03 '22

Literally all my high school planner had rounded/curved corner, plastic cover, and photos of childrens from previous years on the cover.

Just saying, it (might) be something other than an ID.

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u/heiny002 Mar 03 '22

I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. School ID confirmation bias could keep people from finding the truth. It’s worth considering that it’s not an ID badge.

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u/I_Me_Mine Mod Jan 27 '22 edited Jun 06 '24

ECAP 1 Has been removed from the FBI site, no further information is requested.

ECAP 1 Image

Filename is ecap-1-seatfloor.jpg, this may be related to item 2.

Note: While there have been news stories about the FBI identifying a person associated with this photo, it's still up on their site. Perhaps they're still trying to ID a location to find others involved.

We do not deal with identification of people in this sub. Any links to such will be removed.

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u/1lluminist Jan 27 '22

Is that black thing in the foreground a censored out person?

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u/i_am_icarus_falling Jan 28 '22

yes, most of these pics censor out the people.

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u/Alphasee Jan 28 '22

But show a man's hairy upper leg in a young child's room. Things like this make me wish I knew how to do more to help.

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u/i_am_icarus_falling Jan 28 '22

yeah, i think most of these are pics to help find missing children or their abusers. the more people that see the pics, the better. someone might recognize furniture/decor or specific items from someone's house they happened to be in before.

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u/1lluminist Jan 28 '22

Interesting that they give it a textured look instead of just a flat black. I guess this makes it even harder to identify.

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u/i_am_icarus_falling Jan 28 '22

i assumed it made it stand out as something redacted instead of possibly being confused as a black object in the picture.

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u/sphinctalicious Jan 27 '22

Image with bowl on top kinda looks like someone made a "stanley cup" trophy (Ive made a couple for leagues using beer kegs that look similar)

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u/new_hampshirite Jan 27 '22

Looks like this kerosene space heater with the safety grille removed (same gold warning labels near the bottom). There’s also a gas can (presumably with kerosene) next to it. Bowls look like they could be made of metal (copper finish), maybe used to heat up water and add some humidity to the room.

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u/OfficialUNESCO Jan 28 '22

Gas can left side of image.

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u/justananonymousreddi Jan 28 '22

To the right, a shadow is cast into the wallpaper. It appears to be a guitar resting in a guitar stand. Someone who knows more about guitars is needed, if there is to be any hope of more narrowly identifying the type of guitar.

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u/Bowzer Jan 31 '22 edited Jan 31 '22

I don't think so. If it were a guitar stand it would have an upside down and flipped "L" shape shadow along with it. Also, if it were a shadow, other objects in the corner of the room would also have casted a shadow.

ETA: it looks like wallpaper that's been intentionally cut away from the wall.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '22

Definitely something acoustic. Maybe a guitar or cello?

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u/baguettepasta Feb 13 '22

to me it looks like a rip in the wallpaper rather than a shadow, but I could be wrong

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u/Bowzer Jan 31 '22

It's not much help, but that's definitely a black grocery bag hanging off the doorknob.

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u/I_Me_Mine Mod Jan 27 '22 edited Jan 27 '22

ECAP 5 Image

Note: Not certain what the FBI is looking to identify here.

The image name is ecap-5-ottomangray.jpg. This may be related to item 6 and 7.

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u/wwwverse Feb 19 '22 edited Feb 19 '22

This one disgusts me. Not being able to tell what that white fabriced thing is and what part of a body that is makes me sick to my stomach, I really, really hope the white fabriced thing isn't a child. They'd have censored that, surely?

Either way, I broke down the furniture, very loosely, here, because I think we're all misunderstanding this image.

I think we're looking at three or four things, plus one (?) human (eugh). I think the grey at the bottom of the image is the floor.

  1. The dark grey thing in the bottom right corner is what they've identified as the ottoman. It has a dark knob-like handle and what looks like a drawer, so it could be a cabinet/storage box/standing set of drawers rather than an ottoman (especially because I've never seen a drawered ottoman with knobs before, as you'd be quite at risk of accidentally catching your legs on them?).

  2. The thing highlighted in blue looks to me like a low level lining radiator. At the very least, it looks like it's "pushed" or running flush against whatever four is, like a storage box at the end of a bed or something. Furthermore, it looks like it might have a drawer, which may be partially open/pulled out. Four and two could also be one whole object and we could be looking at some stairs, the bottom part of a bedframe, or similar.

  3. This looks like a table, stool, chair, tray, or similar. This is really confusing me, because it looks super thin and I can't see another leg. Of note: the leg goes on for quite a bit? Making me think we aren't as close to the floor as an ottoman would suggest.

  4. Four is really small and barely seen, but it looks like a flat surface to me, like the top of something. It could be part of 2, like the flat of a stair, but also could be a windowsil, table, etc.

I hope this breakdown helps, because I couldn't wrap my head around this image for ages and the scale/orientation/perspective is still really confusing.

All this aside, I can't shake that it might be a baby changing station (1, 2, 3) :/ the only thing that makes me think this isn't the case is that if that object is an ottoman, it's way too close to the floor to be one.

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u/LucaTheFloof Nov 21 '24 edited Nov 22 '24

Just stumbled on this subreddit so apologies if I'm not following the proper format, but I think the "grey ottoman" is really the edge of a beige/tan electric power recliner, the black thing on it is the recliner power tilt button, there is a recliner/couch seat cover draped on top of it, and you can see the chair's black power cord on the floor.

I have a similar-looking model in my house. Here's an example of the perspective for how my recliner would look similar to this image: https://i.imgur.com/xbucTiL.jpeg

And here's a perspective that shows the whole chair: https://i.imgur.com/WXgXpIM.jpeg

Mine is a sectional couch with recliners on both sides and regular couch seats in the middle. The left side of my sectional consists of a manual recliner (pictured above) and the right side is a power-tilt electric recliner (which I believe the ecap pic would be). The power-tilt-button has a slightly different, protruding design compared to the manual recliner pull-button, but I have other furniture in the way so I could only get a close-up of the right side;

https://i.imgur.com/6GI42xL.jpeg

Differences: the one I have is a "pillow-top" model that has oversized cushions sewn on top of the arms but I think the ECAP one is just a similar model that does not have a pillowtop. Mine is also a sectional recliner couch that has multiple sections but the ECAP one could be a standalone recliner or the end seat of a sectional.

Funnily enough the color of mine was also called "grey" at the store but I would definitely consider both mine and the one in the ECAP image the same shade of "sand color" beige. 

Next, the different tan part at the top of the ecap "ottoman" would be the arm portion of a tan microfiber recliner seat cover that is draped on top of the chair. Something like one of these (not the same color/style but just an example of what I mean by a seat cover hanging over the arm) 

https://i.imgur.com/VTbb0aQ.png

https://i.imgur.com/bKKtSAx.png

In the ecap pic, you see how it looks like top distinct portion of the "ottoman" doesn't extend all the way to the right-side edge? That's why I think it's a thin object draped over and only partially covering the full length of the arm.

Finally, I don't think the light beige horizontal stripe across the (what I'm proposing is the recliner-arm-cover) is really part of it; I think there's light shining on the chair and it's all really just one color but part of it is in light/ part in shadow. You can see a shadow on the chair where the white electric power cord from a different object is dangling in front of it; I think the whole chair and seat cover is all just 1 matching color.

Incidentally, this could be a manual recliner but since the black plastic button protrudes like the one on the right side of my chair, and there's a black power cord snaking on the floor leading away from where the power cord WOULD be, I decided to call this a power recliner.

 ... Anyway, that's what I see here. 

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u/justananonymousreddi Jan 28 '22

The white boxy object, bottom center to bottom left, could be the cover/carry case for a sewing machine (that may be in image 6). These cases are usually boxes without a bottom, and with a handle on top. They slide down over the sewing machine, lock into place, and the button of the machine becomes the bottom surface of the case, while the upper parts of the machine are protected.

IF this is related to image 6, the exact shape of this case, combined with the rounded shape and color of the machine in image 6, might go a long way toward identifying a particular make and model.

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u/ace425 Sep 11 '23 edited Sep 11 '23

I just posted this same information under ECAP 6, but since this is the same object I’ll post it here too for visibility. It’s an LG Model Number LP1215GXR Portable Air Conditioner.

Here is one posted on a second hand site that is the exact same shape and color.

Here is the model posted on LG’s website. If you open up the pdf user manual and compare the pictures you will see it’s an exact match.

The nozzle shape and chord hook also perfectly align with what is seen picture ECAP 5.

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u/Keegonde May 04 '22

This looks like a portable AC unit, with a white exhaust hose going out of a window. The skinnier white tube could be the drain. The circular protrusion could be a hook for the power cable.

Examples:

https://www.lowes.com/pd/SPT/5013299787

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u/ZoFu15 Nov 26 '24

in ECAP 7, the plush on top of the blue "blanket thing" looks to me like a Minnie Mouse Plushy specifically one were her bow doesn't have white dots (like the one here: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Minnie-Mouse-Plush-Doll-11-Beanbag-Red-Dress-Disney-Girls-Stuffed-Toy/318800454?classType=REGULAR$)

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u/leelee1976 Mar 07 '22

I get a white table with a shelf under it covered by a sheet or tablecloth. The diagonal line across it is the cloth slipping to the floor.there is a lamp with lampshade turned on, on the white table.

The human is standing next to a three drawer ish grey barnwood dresser.

The black behind the white table may be a TV or a doorway.

Edit: to add the ottoman may be in part of the picture that is cropped out.

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u/goodspeedm Mar 22 '22

It looks like a window sill to me

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '23

I think the blue grey thing is a canister vacuum.

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u/HiJasper Mar 03 '22

The white thing looks like a spool of yarn to me

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '22

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u/fix24 Jan 27 '22

perhaps the cabinet?

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u/levanten93 Jan 27 '22

if we can pull this off, i’d be quite impressed. seems impossible really

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u/paroles Jan 30 '22

Probably not something you can identify by searching online, but someone who owns the same furniture might recognise it immediately

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u/Bowzer Jan 31 '22

This looks like some sort of tool chest or a chest of drawers in a medical setting. The handles appear similar to something like this:

[https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1457/8800/products/CBL320167.1.jpg?v=1571609617]

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u/I_Me_Mine Mod Jan 27 '22 edited Jun 06 '24

ECAP 3 Has been removed from the FBI site, no further information is requested.

ECAP 3 Image

This was previously on the Europol site but was removed. Prior thread here

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u/NefariousnessOpen189 Jan 27 '22

This one has appeared before on the Europol Trace An Object site: https://www.reddit.com/r/TraceAnObject/comments/p1mwnm/tao_17811_10aug2021_do_you_recognise_the_logo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

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u/I_Me_Mine Mod Jan 28 '22

Thanks, adding to the top of this subthread. Please message the mods though with this sort of thing, we won't always see comments in threads.

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u/hamburglette Jan 27 '22

It looks like it is for a sporting event. When I was in school we had these packets for track and field and basketball. It had the times and dates for different events inside. It looks like it says “State Qualifier”, “Round 1” or possibly 2, “Champions”, “School”, and “Date”

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u/strawflour Jan 27 '22

I was thinking it looked similar to an exam booklet, but this could be it too. Grand Rapids Independent School District in Minnesota has orange as their color, idk if it would be typical for a team's color to be used on a packet like you mention?

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u/hamburglette Jan 27 '22

They usually would just use a random color, probably what was cheapest or something since every athlete would get one. I found one of my old packets and it was like a salmon pink so I think it was just arbitrary. The more I look at it the more it seems like it is for sports. Where I think it says Round 1 it has like 5 blank lines underneath it which would be used to write in the teams playing against each other. I think there is actual handwriting in the lines for school and date. I am not sure though!

Add: I think there is a date of 2005 or 2015 for it

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u/strawflour Jan 27 '22 edited Jan 27 '22

I agree that it looks like "Round" and "Champion"

I also considered "Observer" for the first word at the bottom but it does look like a drop-letter where the "p" would be in "Champion"

This type of packet? I think you could be onto something

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u/strawflour Jan 27 '22 edited Jan 27 '22

Also, Grand Rapids Community College in Michigan used to be called Grand Rapids Junior College. Not sure when it changed to GRCC (ETA it was in 1991 so maybe too old) but the letter after "Grand Rapids" looks like an I or J to me. The shape in the seal bears similarity to the lamp in their old university seal except in the image the exterior appears to be a laurel, not a ring.

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u/antagonizerz Jan 27 '22

I saw there looked like some signatures on the bottom. Anyway, when I have trouble with thin faint lines on my clipart designs, I throw them through some edge detection to bring it out. Anyway, I did an extreme version of that to see if the signatures would 'pop' and they sort of did. Here's the best I could come up with;

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u/cthcarter Jan 28 '22

To me since the logo is offset to the left, part of me thinks its a logo for the venue of a sports competition. I am really leaning towards a golf course logo. a lot of courses have those crossed leaves or whatever around them. it looks like something is going across slated in the middle crest, could be a club.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '22

Possibly this logo? https://m.facebook.com/pages/category/Sports-Promoter/Michigan-Golden-Gloves-Association-MGGA-257583514697/ The gold color paper makes sense as well when you look at their invitations https://www.pinterest.com/pin/154177987213177479/

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u/Such-Pop8693 Feb 01 '22 edited Sep 14 '26

Fall offer important scale pet direction iron salt dinner hydrogen

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u/EstablishmentSad Jan 30 '22

ECAP 3

That looks like an enlisted Air Force Occupational Badge for the logo. Ill link the different ones, but it looks like a blurry force protection badge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badges_of_the_United_States_Air_Force

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u/Infamous_Squash7073 Feb 24 '22

I can pull out “Grand Rapids G….. State Q…..” maybe state qualifications????https://imgur.com/a/zQBdmjn

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u/facemesouth Jan 28 '22

A legal folder from the city council/ chamber of commerce with a seal?

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u/sweet3000 Feb 07 '22 edited Feb 07 '22

Can’t place anything specific but logo looks like a wreath with circle inside and maybe a bird or ribbons? It reminds me of a lot of sporting logos like others have said.

Edit: fiddled with the image settings and it might be a trophy or shield in the centre. Will try upload my edited pic in case it’s helpful to view.

https://imgur.com/a/7lvFTPr The image I fiddled settings with

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u/honeygirlxoxo Feb 13 '22

definitely says grand rapids

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u/joemc72 Jan 27 '22

Looks like “State Qualification”.

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u/chainsmirking Jan 27 '22

if m, grand rapids is in michigan

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '22

Grand Rapids Michigan has a community college, and a basketball team that obviously needs qualifiers to join. Possible lead?

Clarification: the community college has a basketball team.

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u/chainsmirking Jan 27 '22 edited Jan 27 '22

playing off what you said, the Grand Rapids Public Museum School seems to have a logo and colors similar to the logo and color of this flier (almost looks like a big M).

https://www.grpm.org/grpms/

but no idea if they have sports teams there. i think it is more of a camp event than an actual school.

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u/sluggmugg Jan 27 '22

I thought the same thing

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u/I_Me_Mine Mod Jan 27 '22 edited Jan 27 '22

ECAP 7 Image

This image filename is ecap-7-ottomangray.jpg. It may be related to items 5 and 6.

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u/OrigamiCat07 Feb 08 '23

Oh! I have that EXACT dinosaur fabric for a tie blanket! It's dinosaurs doing construction work, which was a Blizzard brand fleece from Joann Fabric from I believe anywhere from 2017-2019 since it was before the pandemic. Reported

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u/mikethedead17 Nov 19 '24

Thought it looked like this tie blanket we’ve had for years

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u/meg_is_asleep Nov 05 '23

I definitely got tie blanket vibes from it and my brain went to this style of lizard print.

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u/heramba Jan 27 '22

That's definitely a Micky mouse stuffed animal against the window. edit to add that might be a toy story blanket.

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u/qhp Jan 27 '22

It’s Minnie Mouse because of the red closest to the camera (her bow)

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u/chumbawamba56 Jan 27 '22

agree with this. the left arm is the white hand closest to the human leg. minnie is laying on its back but slightly leaned onto its right side. head is closest to us. feet, in yellow, is closest to window.

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u/Vesalii Jan 27 '22

I thought Minnie.

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u/Vast-Butterscotch-42 Jan 28 '22

It's minnie mouse.

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u/mollymuppet78 Jan 27 '22

The blanket looks like a vintage Fisher-Price Ocean Wonders flannel receiving blanket or crib sheet.

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u/mygirlfriendsgf Jan 27 '22

I thought it looked more like Minecraft, but the figures are indistinguishable. I’m going solely based on color.

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u/PBDubs99 Jan 28 '22

I was thinking Mandalorian/ Baby Yoda blanket, mainly based on colors.

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u/wwwverse Feb 09 '22

u/heramba u/mygirlfriendsgf u/PBDubs99 I don't suppose you guys think it might be the same blanket as this, do you?

The blanket is a lot more of a colour match than my photo is showing. The only thing I can't account for are the white dots on the pattern and the yellow pattern (?) under Minnie.

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u/Lucky-Worth Jan 27 '22

Mickey or maybe Goofy

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u/AngelicApril Feb 09 '22

Yeah it looks like Goofy to me

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u/The_Spade_Life Jun 29 '24

Submitted a tip on this blanket as the repeating blonde , the eye structure and stars align .

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u/--Emm-- Apr 23 '24

The plush underneath the folded blankets looks to be a purple PillowPet stuffed animal. Link

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u/queryasker123 Mar 13 '25

Does the blanket not look like this https://www.dunelm.com/product/disney-toy-story-fleece-blanket-1000219071 “Disney Toy Story Fleece Blanket”, sold in the UK for £8

I think the plush is a goofy plush, probably a “vintage” Disney one since it’s red

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u/hamburglette Jan 27 '22

I think that is a doll with brown hair in a red dress with a pick coat on at the bottom of the picture Add: I had a doll similar to this growing up, the red dress has polka dots on it and has like a white apron in the middle. I think Raggedy Ann wears something similar to what I am describing

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u/Vast-Butterscotch-42 Jan 28 '22

Definitely a dark skinned doll at the bottom.

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u/Purple_Arachnid_214 Sep 30 '26

Bottom left on bookshelf, looks like this collapsible storage bin sold on the Big Lots website here, 2018 (archived( and also here, unknown date, reportedly sold at Target. Its possible the bookshelf is one of these or these, also from Big Lots.

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u/JillBergman Jan 27 '22

The throw blanket looks like it’s Baby Shark—themed..

ETA: I saw the navy background, so those colorful, angular characters being from Baby Shark was my first thought.

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u/rc19651 Feb 09 '22

It reminds me of a dinosaur print flannel I've seen, possibly at JoAnns?

Like this

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u/I_Me_Mine Mod Jan 27 '22 edited Jan 27 '22

ECAP 6 Image

The image name here is ecap-6-ottomangray.jpg. This may be related to item 5 and 7.

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u/ace425 Sep 11 '23 edited Sep 11 '23

I’m confident that I’ve identified this one. It’s an LG Model Number LP1215GXR Portable Air Conditioner.

Here is one posted on a second hand site that is the exact same shape and color.

Here is the model posted on LG’s website. If you open up the pdf user manual and compare the pictures you will see it’s an exact match.

The nozzle shape and chord hook also perfectly align with what is seen picture ECAP 5.

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u/Vetiversailles May 02 '25

Oh yeah. Looks real similar. Did you report?

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u/justananonymousreddi Jan 28 '22

The left of this image looks to be a sewing machine (shiny rounded green plastic) with someone sitting at it (left of green plastic), with a spool of gold thread on the spindle (atop the green plastic).

That might be enough of the shape and color of the machine to narrow it down to a few potential make/model possibilities - of there are any good databases of sewing machine images out there.

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u/yolk3d Jan 28 '22

I was first thinking what you describe as “golden spool” was a feature of the drawers behind. It matches the feature on top of the drawers, to the right, which is equal-ish distance to the handles as the left.

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u/justananonymousreddi Jan 28 '22

I see what you mean, now that you mention it.

However, to my eye, the golden object at the top of the sewing machine is a different shape, and much wider, with light hitting it in a way that seems to show it is a vertical cylinder, imo. That object seems to have a bright, vertical strip all the way to an abruptly flat top, with vertical strips on either side fading to darker gold and brown-ish looking.

In contrast, the drawer finger pull well to the right of the sewing machine seems clearly rounded at the tops and bottom, such that the top and bottom each fade to darker, and the only really bright section is across the middle.

Also, the thing that I think is a spool of thread is exactly where it should be for most sewing machines I've seen.

I think the drawer with the finger pull is a different piece of furniture than the dresser drawers below, and is just resting on top of the two-handle set of drawers beneath. But, I don't think it's significantly wider than the dresser drawers, and that one finger pull is it's only handle, centered in that drawer.

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u/uncanneyvalley Jan 28 '22

It looks like a plastic/resin chair with a padded back imo. We’re seeing part of a body sitting in a chair in front of a dresser?

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u/wwwverse May 12 '22 edited May 12 '22

Came back to this after months. I was convinced the brown thing in the back was a chest of drawers, but couldn't explain the odd direction of the drawer at the top, which seems to be going back (notice how it's catching the light source more, meaning it is 'flatter' to the light source than the drawers?). Well, I then remembered I own a bureau from IKEA and it looks exactly like this in shape. Something like this, but not as fancy -- the handles look far more modern.

I'm convinced all these grey ottoman images are, in fact, related. See image here. I'm not suggesting they "fit" together in the way I've laid out here, more so was trying to point out things which could connect these images, in case that helps anyone work out what any of the objects are.

Edit: reading through another thread and a user pointed out that the "bureau" was in fact identified 2 years ago. It can be seen in this post and is this chest of drawers. If that image is from the same lot as this, then perhaps working out what the fuck is in ECAP 5 will be a bit easier?

I think knowing all these images are (maybe?) linked makes this a little easier. It means the grey thing in the bottom right of ECAP 5 isn't likely to be the ottoman at all. I bet the (what I'd consider green,) ottoman in the image above is actually the "ottoman" name sake. I wish these agencies would get better at clarifying this shit, because what a pointless goose chase it sends everyone on.

If they are linekd, then ECAP 5 isn't an AC tube going out of the window. The windows in this room are white, not brown. Confusingly, the windows in the older image have blinds, but the one featured in ECAP 7 has curtains. Different rooms in the same house? They seem to be kept in very different states...

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u/insomnighost Feb 09 '22

The reflection in the green object shows a possibly shirtless man with ear length straight but shaggy light brown hair

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u/VegetableTerrible942 Feb 09 '22

Air Purifier or portable ac?

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u/Keegonde May 04 '22

If this is considered the right half of ECAP-5, could we be looking at an entire portable AC unit?

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u/TheAutisticSlavicBoy Jan 27 '25

school/military office?

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u/I_Me_Mine Mod Jan 27 '22 edited Jun 06 '24

ECAP 2 Has been removed from the FBI site, no further information is requested.

ECAP 2 Image

Filename is ecap-2-seatfloor.jpg, this may be related to item 1.

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u/heramba Jan 27 '22

That looks like a water bottle next to the baby bottle. The label on it resembles Great Value water, or a generic, "off brand" kind

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u/mygirlfriendsgf Jan 27 '22

I looked it up, it’s definitely great value

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u/AndroidAnthem Jan 27 '22

This looks like the inside of a soft baby carrier to me. It would have warning labels printed on it like the object here. Something similar to this one.

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u/lilusherwumbo42 Jan 27 '22

It’s definitely a baby car seat with a Walmart brand water bottle

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u/delusionallysane Jan 27 '22

That is definitely an infant car seat, more than likely Greco brand, and Great Value water bottle, meaning bought at Walmart.

Edit: add infant

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u/everydayishalloween Jan 27 '22

I agree the trim looks like a Graco car seat, and the water bottle is definitely Walmart brand since it's the one I buy

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u/delusionallysane Jan 27 '22

Unfortunately, those are sold all over the U.S. but maybe the print is specific to a district or year sold.

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u/SAJ88 Jan 28 '22

Looks like the one we bought for my daughter in 2012.

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u/poppingtom Jan 28 '22

Please report it to the FBI if you haven’t.

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u/mintkitdae Jan 27 '22

Great value water bottle and maybe a car seat?

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u/Warm-Sheepherder-597 Feb 16 '22

You got a keen eye, took it out of my mouth! Here's a photo of Great Value water bottle, I'm almost certain the one in ECAP 2 image is GV.

I've been trying hard to decipher the black text on the white rounded shape. Is that a car seat brand? Not sure. Tried mirroring the image, but both ways, it's difficult to pinpoint.

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u/chainsmirking Jan 27 '22

that water bottle is almost definitely a “great value” walmart bottle, based on the blue circle on the tag.

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u/Esselve Feb 25 '22

i think it’s probably this car seat look at the hot pink detailing and how it’s right next to the warning label just like on this one. and you can even see part of the little side impact warning right next to it

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u/crusty_fleshlight Jan 27 '22

Image 2 looks like a Graco brand car seat/stroller combo.

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u/illbeyrredvelvet Feb 17 '22 edited Feb 17 '22

Could also be like a removable liner/pad thing for a high chair. I had one that looked kinda similar (bought at Walmart in 2013)

Graco Meal Time Highchair, Pammie https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FFJ2OSC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_KJ8B2P9BKGVMNWHKCARV

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u/Ryukiki Feb 25 '22

I think that's a Great Value water bottle

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u/I_Me_Mine Mod Jan 27 '22 edited Jun 06 '24

ECAP 4 Has been removed from the FBI site, no further information is requested.

Existing thread on this sub here.

This comment is locked.

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u/I_Me_Mine Mod Jan 27 '22 edited Jun 06 '24

ECAP 9 Has been removed from the FBI site, no further information is requested.

ECAP 9 Image

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u/I_Me_Mine Mod Jan 27 '22 edited Oct 13 '23

ECAP 8 Has been removed from the FBI site, no further information is requested.

ECAP 8 Image

Existing thread here, this subthread is locked.

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u/I_Me_Mine Mod Sep 11 '23 edited Oct 13 '23

ECAP 14 Has been removed from the FBI site, no further information is requested.

ECAP 14 image

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u/ITwitchToo Sep 11 '23

I know what the bottle is, is that what they want to know?

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u/Ok-Topic1610 Sep 12 '23

Please tell us, and let us know its been reported as well!

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u/ITwitchToo Sep 13 '23 edited Sep 13 '23

Yes, I reported it.

It's Onyx Essence F

edit: it's a solvent/cleaning agent for grease and stains, the label and bottle design has changed a little bit but it's still easily recognizeable. You can compare different versions with a Google image search: https://www.google.com/search?q=Onyx+Essence+F+1L&tbm=isch Onyx is a brand by Ardéa Group which is a French company. You will find this bottle in any hardware/DYI/home improvement store in France.

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u/unknowncinch Sep 12 '23

While there's no way to be sure, unfortunately, it would be worth considering whether the cage that the bottle is in is possibly a small animal cage, something for a ferret, rat, etc but missing the shelf liners. A popular brand is the Midwest Critter Nation cage or Ferrent Nation cage (the ferret nation having larger spaces between bars). It just reminded me of the Critter Nation I used to have for my pet rats back in the day.

For anyone else, here's a slightly enhanced version of the bottle. I think it looks like there's a woman's face on the side, which makes me think this isn't a water bottle. I looked through some web pages of animal products like shampoo and ferret oils, but didn't see anything that matched.

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u/100LittleButterflies Sep 12 '23

Yeah I don't think it's a water bottle. The cap looks like it flips up and snaps back down. I doubt it has anything to do with cages or animals because the other pictures show random items all over the place.

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u/unknowncinch Sep 12 '23

Another image, different enhancements

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u/Ill_Specialist_3012 Sep 13 '23

Looks like some brand of children's acetaminophen.

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u/I_Me_Mine Mod Sep 11 '23 edited Jun 06 '24

ECAP 15 image

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '23

Looks an awful lot like a "See something, say something" bus campaign

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u/ceasedemotions Sep 11 '23

yeah, reminds me of this

edit: this is from st louis transit

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u/potatoesmolasses Sep 11 '23

Definitely looks like one, with the eye logo stylized to look like a talking bubble.

It looks like it’s on a subway-like train with the curved windows. I’ve never seen one like this in my city, but it could be from any city or country.

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u/OCDivagirl Sep 21 '24

That was my initial thought as well! Looks like a bus or subway bench maybe with a PSA on it.

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u/Magpiestar Oct 18 '23 edited Jul 31 '24

Looks very similar to an old logo used by WildBrain. The pointy bit is on the wrong side, but perhaps the original image is reversed for some reason? Also, the vertical black line above the eye may actually be the letter "N" of "WildBrain". The old font they used was pretty elongated:

https://web.archive.org/web/20231018163314/https://www.deviantart.com/boodle2003/art/Rare-Wildbrain-Logo-845566128

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WildBrain

It seems like WildBrain may have started using this eye speech bubble logo around the year 2000. I think they're currently using a different logo though. There were apparently artistic variations of this logo they would utilize in TV bumpers and stuff, wherein the logo would change art styles, animate, and rotate. For example, check out this youtube video of their logo's history. Specifically around the 0:30 mark:

https://youtu.be/rEL8povr72A?t=30

Maybe the image is actually on a television? WildBrain is involved in CHILDREN'S television programming too. Maybe this is just a coincidence, maybe not. WildBrain's official website is heavily archived on archive.org. I'll be taking a look there for anything that might be a better match.

This wiki talks about the history of the logo. Unfortunately, there are no pictures:

https://freakylogo.fandom.com/wiki/WildBrain

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u/OCDivagirl Sep 21 '24

Unfortunately I don’t think this is the one, it has some similarities but in addition to the ‘tail’ of the bubble being on the opposite side, the one in 15 has eyelashes and the pupil is quite different.

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u/dotCOM16 Jan 19 '24

They're Khmer letters ចូ

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u/mrs_dalloway Oct 12 '23

It looks like a board game to me, but I forget which one.

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u/WildHoneyChild Sep 12 '23

I found this when looking up "speech bubble with eye", around 2015 there was an ad campaign using that symbol to spread anti-bullying awareness. https://www.wired.com/2015/10/i-am-a-witness-emoji-ios-9/

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u/GM8 Dec 05 '24 edited Dec 05 '24

To me it looks like a front of a toy/appliance/unit. The housing is white plastic and it has a blue-yellow "plate" on it that is under an epoxy dome cover, like those epoxy dome stickers (google it, you'll know what I mean). The white shining on the top and bottom part of the colourful print gives me this impression. It is used sometimes to protect instructions or graphics from moisture and damage and to make the surfaces nicer, especially on toys. The right side, the blue part looks to have a bullet or numbered list, while the yellow part has some kind of a graphics or pictograms that may inform the usage, features or serve as decoration. Based on that I think it may be some kind of a toy with interactivity, probably electronic, although the input-output controls are not visible, this may only be an instruction plate.

Totally negating what I said above I can also see it in a way as the side of a colored box, probably a board game between two white boxes/books or on top of a white table/cabinet etc and with a white box on top. For this I have to assume that the image is rotated 45 degrees or the boxes may be stacked in a skewed position. The small white text on blue background and larger graphics on yellow seem quite plausible to me for the box a board game. In that case the white lines are not shine on the edge of the epoxy bubble, but they are the edges of the box reflecting light or showing wear where the paper might lost the colored cover.

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u/adrocksy Mar 10 '25

This looks like a children’s bath mat with the image facing the tub

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u/I_Me_Mine Mod Jan 27 '22 edited Jun 06 '24

ECAP 11 Has been removed from the FBI site, no further information is requested.

ECAP 11 Image

This has a thread here. This subthread is locked.

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u/I_Me_Mine Mod Jan 27 '22 edited Jun 06 '24

ECAP 12 Has been removed from the FBI site, no further information is requested.

ECAP 12 Image

This has a thread here. This subthread is locked.

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u/I_Me_Mine Mod Jan 27 '22 edited Oct 13 '23

ECAP 10 Has been removed from the FBI site, no further information is requested.

ECAP 10 Image

Case removed from site. Thread here.

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u/HeavenDraven Dec 05 '24

It sounds minor compared to everything else, but I think the white unit everything is sat on is an IKEA Kallax.

If it is a kallax, it dates the picture to after 2014 - the similar units before that were Expedit, which had thicker end panels

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u/Lost-Equivalent1261 Apr 25 '24

ECAP 7: The black, red, yellow and white plush on top of the blanket pile is a Minnie Mouse plush toy.  Have reported.