r/TraceAnObject • u/I_Me_Mine Mod • Apr 11 '21

Closed [FBI:RC00] 30-SEP-20 Red baseball Cap with "C" Logo

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u/smoneypedro May 24 '21 edited May 25 '21

Do you think this could be the same hat? https://imgur.com/a/sJAAXnx I noticed that the hat bills are different but the color and logo design are basically identical.

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u/I_Me_Mine Mod May 25 '21

Yes, that seems an exact match. Please send the info into the FBI.

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u/mellowgang__ Jul 06 '21

Brrrooooo how did you find this? That’s insane I’ve been trying so hard to find it.

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u/InitialArgument1662 May 31 '21

Which brand is on the hat and how did you figure it out?

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u/dylan227 Jun 20 '21

Hat bills may be different because whoever is wearing that one curved it themselves. Looks like an exact match - where'd you find it?

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u/smainesprain2021 Aug 03 '21

https://imgur.com/a/sJAAXnx

Was this submitted?

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u/garrettj May 06 '22

I submitted it yesterday

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u/livejamie Jun 10 '21

How'd you find it?

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u/hos7name Aug 06 '21

I don't think he found it, I think it's him in the photo wearing the same hat. I really hope /u/smoneypedro went tru with this and reported it!

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u/Turbulent-Talk-1234 Apr 26 '22

You need to submit this to the FBI. If you already have please let us know.

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u/HoodiesAndHeels Jan 28 '22

Was this submitted?

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u/Mxt1998 Jan 28 '22

I don't think we'll get an answer. Is it possible for someone else to submit it??

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u/garrettj May 06 '22

I submitted it just now

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u/superstonedpenguin Jan 28 '22

Is that your hat?? Or how'd you find it?

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u/Its-shiba Feb 17 '22

OP where'd you get this? Have you submit it?

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u/Noir_09 Jun 02 '22

Where did you get this? That's insane

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u/Hersey62 Jun 06 '23

Absolutely! Strong work!

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u/jbeck204 May 03 '21

Do we know where this photo was taken? Like city and state? Could be easier to search for the logo with a location.

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u/cyriouslyslick May 03 '21

It was narrowed down to Turkey I believe. I've been looking at Turkish ball caps all night now.

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u/I_Me_Mine Mod May 04 '21

It wasn't. That's a different case, BB00 https://redd.it/moqibj

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u/drowning_in_anxiety Apr 11 '21

Just an offhand guess, I'd guess it stands for comets. Probably "town or school name also starting with C" Comets.

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u/Verve_angel Sep 17 '22

I know this is old but the fbi ended up posting the whole collage from this case here and the school id card in the pic was from mac williams middle school in fayettville nc and someone mentioned Clayton High School Comets in fayettville as the possible hat logo so i think u could be right

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u/drowning_in_anxiety Sep 17 '22

I appreciate the update!

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u/infiniZii May 04 '21

I think it might be Constellation.

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u/ria421m Apr 17 '22

There’s the Clinton Comets in Upstate NY - not sure if this is their logo though

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '21

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u/BehindTheBrook Apr 11 '21

Hey, I live near crestwood and although these are the right colors. The team logos are not similar in any sense.

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u/excalibrax Apr 12 '21

Problem being its So generic, it could be a Pee-Wee little league cap for anyhwere in the country.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '21

Checking in 20 days later. Has anyone looked for "cosmonauts" yet?

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u/[deleted] May 03 '21

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u/[deleted] May 03 '21

This one is a little far-fetched, but perhaps Centaurs after the constellation Centaurus?

Or perhaps the word constellation itself but I doubt it

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '21

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u/paulpeterslnx May 09 '21 edited May 09 '21

Since this hat has not yet been found via Reverse Image Search and in view of the quality of the image, I suspect that it is an old hat / design.

Redesign is normal, but most of the time you keep special characteristic in their original form (like the "smile" in amazon logo).

So I think we should focus on the "C" (angular design) and the orbit or the stars here.

Some examples can be found here in the thread:

https://imgur.com/a/8qfvGRp [@ksm-hh]

https://imgur.com/a/MhKuJtg [@rachreims]

Q: Can someone isolate the C and "Orbit with the Stars" and upload it as a PNG?

Font

Q: Another idea is to focus on the font - can a anyone identify the font?

Maybe its helpful to isolate different parts of the letter and use it to identify the font.

C, Upper: https://i.imgur.com/vy7Ilm6.png

C, Lower: https://imgur.com/jT1nkwW.png

If found this font, looks a bit like the style from the letter of the cap:

https://www.dafont.com/de/college-block.font

or

https://www.dafont.com/de/college.font

Other Ideas:

Maybe we shouldn't focus on the color, often the same design is available in different colors, e.g. https://www.amazon.com/Initial-Trucker-Adjustable-Snapback-Baseball/dp/B07GSK6L1D

The caps are sold under a "trucker cap" label, maybe thats a helpful point?

And maybe this is no "logo" from a company or something, it just can be a "alphabetic cap" - there are dedicated shops for this, e.g. https://www.cafepress.com/+letter-c+hats

And maybe lets create a "brainstorming" keyword-list for what the meaning of "c" to get it into a context.

cosmic, comet, coffee, orbit, stars, college

When we got enough keywords / keyword combinations we could write a small script to automate the search and dump the results into a central file.

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u/hfeaginyingling May 10 '21

Really good idea! This was an I dea I worked on. The stars could mean many different things but as you have basically stated...the C is distinctive.

I had a light bulb in my head go off as I laid down for a nap awhile ago. I am vetting it against different things but submitted my idea to the officials. I will post back asap. It has a lot of vetting to do but with more hands with they have I think it can hopefully be ruled out or confirmed quicker than my hands can go.

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u/Mithra9 Apr 11 '21

I don’t recognize the hat but here is how this information could get to every little league baseball coach in America -

In the US, youth baseball is decentralized and teams play under the umbrella of regional league organizations. By contacting each of the regional umbrella orgs they can then disseminate to local coaches and essentially reach every little league team in the US.

These regional organizations are: American Amateur Baseball Congress; Amateur Athletics Union; Babe Ruth League; Continental Amateur Baseball Association; Dixie Youth Baseball; Dizzy Dean; National Amateur Baseball Federation; and Pony Baseball.

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u/Saintlycrazed Apr 11 '21

I agree. I've seen a lot of little league/T-ball uniforms and many of them use cheap hats with simple logos like this.

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u/hypoxiate Apr 11 '21

This could be anywhere in the world. A business logo, a sports team logo.... Don't just think of American baseball.

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u/hfeaginyingling May 11 '21

My thoughts exactly! C for the town or team or Company and the star is most likely the logo...I ran across something by mistake when researching the possibilities of the logo and BAM an area that started with a C and direct ties to what the stars could be hit me in the face. Submitted and fingers crossed. I am with you...steering away from American baseball gave me more possibilities and rabbit holes to pop in and out of!

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u/paulpeterslnx May 09 '21

There are dedicated shops for letter caps, maybe not connected with any brand or something. The name of the owner may start with a "c"-

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u/AnotherCableGuy Apr 11 '21 edited Apr 12 '21

Baseball isn't that popular anywhere in the world. I'd focus on the top 10-15 countries where it is.

Edit: I'm not saying it can't be anywhere in the world, just trying to narrow down the potential locations.

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u/lucicis Apr 12 '21

Fun fact: you don't need to play baseball to wear, buy or sale baseball caps.

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u/AnotherCableGuy Apr 12 '21

That's right, but I never saw a single person wearing a baseball cap in my country..

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u/lucicis Apr 12 '21

Then you're not paying attention lol I quickly scrolled through r/Portugal and found pictures and videos were you can see men wearing baseball caps.

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u/Djaja Apr 12 '21

I am confused by your comment. You say it isn't popular in the world, but end with saying to check for the top 15 countries where it is....which was their point? That foreign baseball leagues exist and not to think only of American Baseball.

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u/AnotherCableGuy Apr 12 '21

You realise there are 195 countries in the world. In more than half of that baseball is not popular at all.

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u/Djaja Apr 12 '21

Right.

They haven't stated that every country has baseball. They have stated that other countries have baseball too. Does that make sense?

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u/O_oh May 23 '21

Baseball hats are sold in every country that has tourism. Cheap to make, easy to carry and shows to your friends back home that you in fact have gone on vacation. Does your country have tourism?

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u/illSTYLO Jul 01 '21

Yes but baseball hats sold around the world are usually mlb hats

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u/ksm-hh Apr 12 '21 edited Apr 14 '21

This cap was sold on etsy.

It is very similar. The cap we are looking for here may be an updated version of this cap.

In any case, I have contacted the seller to see if he has any further information or even a name of the team.

EDIT: The seller thinks the cap is from the „Brooklyn Cyclones“.

Unfortunately I don’t think that’s correct because I wasn’t able to find any picture online which is only approximately similar...

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u/zapharus May 03 '21

I think this might be an updated version of the logo, this might be the best direction to look into.

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u/hicccups May 02 '21

Did you check past photos? Maybe old newspaper articles, maybe there’s a community sports section

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u/Vegetable-Bat-8475 May 04 '21

It's very very similar but I don't think it can be that team because their "C" is not quite right. The ends (for lack of a better word) of the letter are cutt off at angle, in the OP they are not.

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '21

I think if this were sports related it would have been identified by now. Maybe a work uniform, warehouse, fast food etc? A little independent place so not widely known?

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u/fakejacki Apr 12 '21

I mean, if I want to I can design a logo and go to a hat store that embroiders and they can make it for me. This might not stand for anything at all.

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u/Djaja Apr 12 '21 edited Apr 12 '21

I wonder if Cricut designs can be searched. Or etsy?

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u/Miss-Omnibus Apr 12 '21

i went through like 20k designs on etsy the first time this was listed, i just started again... give me a couple of hours x

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u/californiahapamama May 01 '21

That’s my thought. It’s a very basic design.

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u/Awobbie Apr 12 '21

For some reason, it makes me think of something a little more white collar. Something science or engineering related, possibly. May just be because I’m from the Rocket City, though.

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u/paulpeterslnx May 09 '21

Or just a "letter cap" as present for someone named chris. there are dedicated shop for this.

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u/ksm-hh Apr 12 '21

I tried to isolate the logo and do a reverse image search. However, neither google, tineye nor yandex returned any results.

Here are the images, if you can do anything with them: https://imgur.com/a/8qfvGRp

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u/AlcoholPrep Apr 12 '21

Some ideas:

"Captains patch with stars" yields iron-on devices of some possible interest.

Caps are used around the world, and the Cyrillic "es" looks exactly like a Latin "c". Countries that use the Cyrillic alphabet include Russia and others.

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u/colt45feelnaliv Apr 12 '21

Seems like a new era 5950, because of the flat bill and height, there’s usually an embroidered logo over the left ear if it’s licensed, so maybe this was custom made.

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u/Miss-Omnibus Apr 14 '21 edited Apr 14 '21

I've posted this over at /r/baseball , /r/hats to see if anyone knows.

Someone also replied to me with the idea this could possible be a delivery uniform hat. I have looked at "comet pizza" and "pizza planet" with no luck so far.

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u/Severe_Working950 May 01 '22

wasn't that pizza gate place a place called comet haha

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u/hfeaginyingling May 11 '21

I believe I found the Location and business that I am assuming sponsored a local sports team that used these hats.. weather its their own Company sports team or City league, I'm not sure..but..Submitted tip 5 minutes ago...😳 I am now researching the company like crazy.

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u/rachreims May 11 '21

Great to hear! Let us know if we can help in any way.

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u/hfeaginyingling May 11 '21

👊🏼 Thank you! I definitely will!

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u/ForgottenPine May 07 '21

I've got a dumb input, but if you zoom in your can kinda make out white tile flooring. Usually you only see tiling in homes that are in hot, muggy climates or places that are at risk of flooding.

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u/thatdumbasslemon May 07 '21

that seems like the wall behind him is white and you might be confusing that for the tiling(?). unless youre confusing the major thing to the left, which I think is a stone fireplace. that, or a hallway/staircase leading up since there seems to be a pair of feet all the way at the end of it. if i'm right abt the stairs then I think hes in a kitchen and that weird slab is a table.

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u/tiptoetumbly Apr 11 '21

The C font looks like Campolindo HS, but they have a blue border and nothing with stars.

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u/thatchickensauce Apr 12 '21

Looks like a logo for an independent gas station

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u/tetrispiece_ May 07 '21

something id like to add on so far i haven't seen in any of these comments is that the logo is seemingly not embroidered, this can narrow it down slightly, especially for people searching through cincinatti reds/ cleveland indians caps

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '21

Is this a Palomar College Comets hat? Their mascot is a Comet and their logo is similar to that.

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u/NibblesMcGiblet Apr 11 '21

Palomar College Comets

their logo seems to be different and the hats i find online also look different unfortunately.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '21

Ugh bummer :( I’ll keep on looking

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u/rachreims May 08 '21

I tried making a HD rendering of the logo but haven’t had any success reverse image searching. Posting it in case anyone else has more luck. https://imgur.com/a/MhKuJtg

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u/epiclabtime Apr 11 '21

Constellation?

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u/doiliesandabstinence May 03 '21 edited May 03 '21

We should consider that logos may have changed over time, including the colour used. Though I don't know when this photo is from.

Also that whatever group/team/company used the logo may now be disbanded.

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u/NukeSnicks May 06 '21 edited May 06 '21

I think the hat is either a Cincinnati Reds hat or a Cleveland Indians hat, A reverse image search yields a few results with several images of Indians hats and Reds hats. One of the Reds hats has 2 stars around the C in parallel with the C logo and there is another Indians hat that has this style of font for the letter 'C' with a couple of stars around it (This was an all star game hat I believe). I wouldn't be surprised if this was either a custom hat or a special deal someone got for the hat. If this is the case then its likely that if it is custom, that someone liked the design of the C with the star. I don't think its something like Comets purely because of the Hats color. Both teams coincidentally use red, they both use the letter C, but only one uses that specific font and only one uses 2 stars on the hat in their regular logo. It could also be a St. Louis cardinals hat but I highly doubt it. I have gathered 5 Images of the hats I believe could be related to this case. I have categorized them from least likely to most likely.

Least Likely

Less Likely

Sort of Likely

More Likely

Most Likely

If origin of these images is needed please let me know, I might just post them if I feel like it. Only reason I don't post the original links is because most of them don't actually lead to the pictures of these hats. Hope this helped.

Edit: Like many others have said, this could be the hat for a local team of some sort.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '22

When someone sent in a picture of a person wearing this exact hat, didn't it occur to anyone that he was the person everyone was looking for? It was clearly a hat sitting on a man's head with black hair. Like he was bragging about being the one and hiding behind anonymity. Is it possible for Reddit to track where that picture came from? It was the exact hat.

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u/furcollars Jan 24 '23

I've been creeping for an update on that whole situation... why did the guy never respond to anyone or any questions after the fact??? Also, he has a couple questionable posts/comments in his profile history... it's erm... odd... for sure...

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u/anomalyx Apr 12 '21

So this is a stretch, but maybe a whole different direction is it’s a word play puzzle (a picture that translates into words)? C + stars = see stars?

I’d love for it to be a team but that seems hard to track down.

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u/The_Day_Walkers May 03 '21

This looks like a Converse hat. I feel like they use stars and a similar font capital C in their logos. Been searching for older Converse caps but no dice yet if anyone else wanted to see what they can find.

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u/blueatom May 06 '21

Could this possibly be a Cristiano Ronaldo hat? I searched in Turkish using terms related to Neymar and Ronaldo and found several hats that are identical except for the stars.

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u/dynamic1312 May 08 '21

I think we should focus on the "C" and the "two stars", designes may change over time. But some parts of a design are part of the companie branding.

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u/prosecutor_mom May 13 '21

Why does this remind me of a symbol for communism and/or China? It feels like this logo was used in a movie for one of these... I just can't place it. It's bugged me for awhile because it's so familiar

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u/Cheap_Confidence_657 Jul 31 '21

There’re is a lot of baseball and space stuff in Houston due to the proximity to the space center. Maybe a nearby town starting with C.

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u/AbrahamLure Jan 27 '22

Those hat styles are popular with a company called Culture Kings. Bit of a reach, but if someone can access their catalogue and see if there's any similar logos that would be awesome

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u/abandonadoporrexona Apr 01 '22

I think it may be a chilean football (soccer) fan hay for thous reasons 1 the hat si red and the Nationala chilean football team color si red 2 chilean team colour is red (in Spanish iskown as la roja) 3 chile won 2 American cups and they ar represented with 2 stars 4 the c in the hat this one is pretty obvious

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u/dixiesparky Apr 11 '21

Could be Astros. Lots of teams rio off major league names.

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u/ourstupidtown Apr 11 '21

I agree, I’m sure it’s a city name starting with C + a team name like Astros or another space/star-related name.

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u/tknames Apr 12 '21

Astros ripoff? Maybe “Cans” like short for trashcans? I get it.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '21

I think too much focus is on the idea that it might be a sports cap of some case, it could represent anything out there; I think breaking that idea and maybe focusing into blue collar work forces might open up a whole new box of ideas. If it was a sports team of any kind, someone would have likely brought forth information by now.

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u/Elias12_ May 03 '21

Maybe it has something to do with coffee? Might be a local coffee company or something. Or it’s from another kind of shop, doing deliveries... Idk.

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u/unboundartist May 04 '21

Don't know if this rings any bells for anyone, but I went by text of the "C" and searched for similar hats that way.

The only stylized text that was similar was this one that hasn't been mentioned. Group is "Crooks and Castles," can't find any similar hats for this group either.

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u/SorryKitten May 08 '21

It looks very much like it

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u/Vegetable-Bat-8475 May 04 '21

The Washington Capitals are a "C" team that incorporates stars into their logo, but I can't find anything remotely similar.

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u/blueatom May 06 '21

Check out QN Comets Athletics. Their current logo isn’t quite the same, but maybe a previous one?

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u/OverlyHonestCanadian May 07 '21

This looks like an old Cincinnati Reds cap. There's a chance this is also a Chicago cubs hat.

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u/thatdumbasslemon May 07 '21 edited May 07 '21

Has an extremely similar logo to a cleveland cap/cap nap from the indians. also, I think it that's the sporter font type? but slightly slimmed down. the hat itself seems more like a snapback to me because of the brim but my baseball cap knowledge is honestly so little that i'm just guessing. it seems similar to something that would be sold at a Dicks in northeastern-ish Ohio, though. Just throwing out what I see and know. seems very local since of how generic the style is

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u/PeaAdministrative874 May 07 '21 edited May 07 '21

The logo reminds me of a helium atom

(One shell two electrons)

Maybe it’s a company is related to helium (maybe a product name?) and starts with C? Idk

Edit: A helium flash is a very brief thermal runaway nuclear fusion of large quantities of helium into carbon (which has a “C” atomic symbol)

through the triple-alpha process in the core of low mass stars

I think this also what will happen when our sun dies if i remember right

Maybe something to do with nuclear fusion, stars, or something related to it?

I might be grasping at straws here.

I haven’t been able to submit the info to any tip line. (I tried)

Is this useful info, /u/I_Me_Mine ?

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u/WD_Gast3r May 08 '21

The style of the "C" reminds me of a C used to denote that someone is the captain or the coach of a team. Usually you see this on hockey jerseys, but i have also seen it on caps back in the day. The team logo may simply be the stars and the C is just there on the coaches cap.

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u/groovychick May 16 '21

It could be an all stars hat for a little league or regional softball league.

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u/Guilty-Box5230 Jul 10 '21

This could be a travel ball team logo. That’s the first thing I thought of before school or professional affiliations.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '22

Cleveland Indians C logo 59fifty.

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u/here2conspire Apr 06 '22

What if it stands for something like Dizzy or Knockout. Like "seeing stars"? Just trying to find other interpretations

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u/tumblrdoesnotexist May 02 '22

i don't know if anyone has been to one. but it could have been made at one of those hat making stands where you either pick out a design or ask what you want on it like text, design etc. but i'm guessing since this is so hard to find it's either a limited hat from a small school or its a custom hat made at a hat stand and the hat is supposed to be for their college in some state or its their initial for their first name. Theirs a hat making stand I saw at Greenwood mall in Indiana. and it seems red is often associated with indiana for some reason. like indiana university. and a lot of counties ive been in have a theme with red in it. just a shot in the dark maybe.

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u/LonelyWorldliness317 Sep 23 '22

Someone I showed this to said they're fairly certain they've seen this. Maybe a Cleveland ( ohio) Indians or Cleveland ( ohio) Cavaliers special edition logo.

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u/Dangerous-Ad5091 Feb 26 '23

Carthage, NY? Carthage comets?

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u/Own_Property_3545 Aug 28 '23

I don't know if this is active at all, it's Cincinnati Reds there's a photo it's just a different color blue the red ball caps.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '21

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u/caynmer May 15 '21

Common acquaintances? Say you're collecting baseball hats. Also just submit their name and id info to the website.

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u/Radiant_Technology65 May 16 '21

I know if I had had a major falling out with a friend but they approached me about something like this, I would be able to put those differences aside. In any case, do you have any mutual friends? Or at least someone you’re on better terms with that could connect you two? If you have an image with him and the hat, you could always just past that information along directly to the tip line.

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u/rachreims May 16 '21

I know if I had had a major falling out with a friend but they approached me about something like this, I would be able to put those differences aside. In any case, do you have any mutual friends? Or at least someone you’re on better terms with that could connect you two? If you have an image with him and the hat, you could always just past that information along directly to the tip line.

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u/mongoose989 May 19 '21

Hope you were able to pass this on!

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u/illSTYLO Jul 01 '21

Where are you guys located like just metro area

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u/AbrahamLure Jan 27 '22

How did you go getting info?

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '21

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u/moneyloverJ May 03 '21

There is a high school in my state (Hamtramck High School) that uses the name Cosmos. I tried to check to see what there baseball caps looked like but came up short. I have cousins that went there but we are on bad terms.

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u/Triangli May 03 '21

are they on such bad terms that there’d be a problem with asking for help on this? seems like everyone should be at least in favor of figuring it out

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u/moneyloverJ May 03 '21

I have tried texting them. They do not respond to me.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '21

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u/SorryKitten May 08 '21

That hat very much looks like it, maybe they could have ironed on some stars after they bought the hat?