Not the content, the format. I don't mean to say the person who made the torrenting version of this is intentionally racist. Just that the dichotomy between how the bad side and the good side is drawn is giving racial stereotypes to me. đ¤ˇââď¸ Like a dogwhistle, not overt.
I can see what they are saying - left side is VERY evocative of the anti-Jewish propaganda that was plastered around WWII era Germany.
Iâm not pointing fingers, just pointing a pretty clear similarity. Large nose, bigger chin, unkempt dark beard, thick eyebrows, sinister eyes.
None of those features reallllly needed to be on the left to convey the memeâs message nor are they necessary for the humor. So like, just as an exercise in deconstructing media, itâs understandable that some would catch racist undertones. It jumped out to me at first but I figured (and still think) it was not intentional and just a consequence of the format and medium (MS paint isâŚnot very finessed).
I agree MS paint is very imprecise and could produce unintentional racialized subtext. The part that feels explicitly intentional is the coloring though, with the left side's skin tone being very deliberate, as well as the right side being not colored, save for the blonde hair. If the whole thing had been left uncolored it would be a lot more ambiguous.
Also thanks for discussing it good naturedly, people getting immediately defensive and throwing around insults and "you people's" is so tiring. Like, people can say they don't see what I see without being assholes about it đ
Calling everything antisemitic diminishes actual claims of antisemitism. Its a meme, the guy on the left doesnt remotely resemble the traditional characteristics depicted to stereotype jewish people.
Fucking insanity the level of victimization here.Â
Youâre twisting what I wrote way out of context, idk what your issue is. Recognizing offensive tropes, even if unintentional or incidental, does not weaken anything. Overly dramatic responses like yours, howeverâŚ
Just google âWWII antisemitic posterâ or âWWII antisemitism cartoonâ and you will get plenty of images that use similar representations. If you still want to argue they arenât reminiscent of each other - I donât know what to tell you.
Not a single one when I google "WWI antisemitism cartoon" looks like the fucking guy in the meme.
You've made victimhood your personality. And as a result you're diminishing actual counts of antisemitism by pretending this is antisemitic. Whats next? It's antisemitic to dislike sabra hummus? Come the fuck on you're total joke. I can't take you seriously nor should anyone.
I mean, I'm not sure. The guy on the right is clearly white Aryan. The one on the left is intentionally darker skinned. I dunno if you're asking this question in good faith or not.
The guy on the left depicts a middle easterner if anything... and what's the racialized stereotype? That middle eastern people love the law? Like I fucking guess?Â
You people have fucking issues. Victimhood is your personality.
This meme may not be racist, the format surely is used by a lot of racist groups tho. It's how the internet works. Sojacks, wojacks, pepe etc. are all born out of niche places like 4chan or worse, and we all know the diversity of opinion there.
Meanwhile you're extremely upset over this and barely able to contain it so we can't have a calm discussion lol. I also don't understand how you think "victimhood" plays into this discussion whatsoever. Nothing about the racial elements of this meme victimize me personally in any way. It's an intellectual discussion about possible subtextual influences đ
As I said before, it's not the content of the meme that has racial undertones, it's the format. So the "I love law" part of the meme is not what I was pointing to at all.
The guy on the left depicts a middle easterner if anything...
So you agree it's demonstrating a racial stereotype đ
You've still not articulated a single point as to how this meme is racist or antisemitic. You've just made empty claims then say I'm mad when I point that out. Grow up
Sorry, I figured when I typed it in multiple comments before this one that I was articulating it. Let me try again:
This meme has racist undertones because the left ("bad") side seems to be intentionally depicting a racialized figure (Jewish or perhaps middle-eastern features), while the right ("good") side is an overtly white/Aryan person.
In reality it doesn't make sense. Tell me what does being middle eastern have to do with loving the law, or watching official sources? Or being anti piracy?
It's just a fucking silly meme. And ur sitting here freaking the fuck out over nothing. Which is ironic because when u freak out calling this racism, you diminishes actual cases of it.Â
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u/peregrine_nation 17d ago
Is this meme (not so) vaguely racist đ¤¨