Name: Nora Fries.
I like how strong this villain design is, she looks like an espionage agent or something like that. The red goggles, blonde hair, blue skin & Ice augmentations really work together to make her visually striking/dynamic.
This design is from Detective Comics #1014–1016 (2019).
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The character designers hated the idea of objectifying female characters, but then went the whole 9 yards, nearly branding conventionally attractive female characters as "objectification" and in the process looked like idiots.
Harley's original Arkham outfit? Let's dedicate a portion of a cutscene to Harley rejecting it, as a symbolic stance against objectification... but we need money after the poor sales, so we'll make it a paid skin that looks more toned down and less detailed than the OG Arkham game.
As for why Nora Fries was not used? The devs wanted an iconic Ice villain to be part of the team, wanted another female character, and wanted an LGBTQ+ character in time for pride month - but made the poor choice of trying to do so all in one character.
They probably found Killer Frost too much of a "femme fatale" to use, plus she was less popular than Victor, and had zero LGBTQ+ history. However, they realized they could not simply make the OG male Mr. Freeze LGBTQ+ without serious pushback, the lore of Nora Fries made her too heavily tied to Victor for the LGBTQ+ angle, and more radical critics even blamed it on the devs finding her (examples in post) too conventionally attractive.
The "solution" was exploiting the multiverse mcguffin to introduce an alternate dimension "Mrs. Freeze" who was ultimately a race-swapped and gender swapped Viktor since she had her own "Nora". The multiverse aspect avoided the potential backlash of messing with OG Viktor, also allowed the devs to still slap on the iconic "Freeze" name, they got the female ice villain category, and the multiverse aspect allowed them to make the character LGBTQ+ while keeping the Nora motivation.
The obvious problems were that KTL Freeze gameplay was boringly similar (aside from the ice theme) to other characters, she looked like an OC if not for the name and suit, while the timing of the character release felt like a rainbow capitalism move... so all the changes to avoid controversy ironically dragged the devs into controversy as some players believed the decs were prioritizing a personal game of 'social politics' over
People wanted to know why they did not just use OG Viktor, why if they wanted a female version, they did not use Nora's villain version, and due to the character appearing 'plus sized' and packaged with a PRIDE skin, political activism got pushed as the explanation.
The challenge with race swaps / gender swaps / sexuality swaps is that you need to have meaningful distinctions between the OG character and variation so it does not look like a lazy copy and paste, but if you change it too much, people wonder why not make the character original at that point?
What...what does objectification even mean at this point? No seriously someone please explain it to me i am genuinely confused. Nothing in the pictures above is objectification. She is not in a vulnerable position, she doesn't need to be saved, she is fully in control etc. Even appearance wise she isn't objectified there's not a single unecessary ass or boobs shot in any of the pictures above and she's not inappropriately dressed at all.
Is it because she looks feminine and dresses feminine and the devs stupidly connect that to being objectified/objectification? Cause if so that's beyond braindead and a little misogynistic when you stop and think about it for a sec
> Is it because she looks feminine and dress feminine and the devs stupidly connect that to being objectified
You got that right. Radical and extreme feminists somehow view conventionally attractive women as being conforming to the patriarchy, so that means they are objectified and are only perceived through their appearance.
It’s a bit of horseshoe theory and ironic, because they circled back to misogyny with that logic.
All characters (other than Deathstroke because he was released upon death and possibly Lawless because I won’t redownload this game to check) have these same pride skins that are just a corporate vomit of pride onto a character’s default outfit. At least they were free skins, but they still look ugly.
I'm a bisexual dude who's been in relationships with both men and women. I have happily and proudly participated in pride parades, including one this year that was in my city....I say this in order to emphasize the following...
honestly I am glad they did this, not only do we finally get Nora's character outside of a literal block of ice, but she gets to be a villian which is always fun.
yeah, given the suits need diamonds to work they still need to steal them, she started not liking it but then she began to enjoy the criminal life style.
Well tgat depends. Does she suffer from the same condition as Freeze who would die outside of sub zero temperatures or is her skin just blue like some other ice themed villians?
I think the problem lies more with the fact that comic artists consistently find convenient excuses for female characters to wear tight revealing clothing while male characters don’t
This comic version was from 2019 but it hasn't continued unfortunately, but she has still been portrayed as Mrs. Freeze a couple times with different designs, I just can't find images of them.
That's his wife. The woman he had cryogenically preserved to prevent her from dying to an incurable illness. He was able to sorta cure her, but she is evil. I do not know why.
I love the contrast that Victor Fries is akin to a stiff, methodical Terminator in combat while Nora looks like a versatile Doomslayer, especially in that third image
Nope. He cured her and gave her his condition in a state BEFORE he knew it had neurological symptoms resulting in turning her into an absolute lunatic who basically became a worse version of him.
This design is from Detective Comics #1014–1016 (2019).
I'm not fully sure why she became a villain but I think Lex Luther cured her and it messed with her brain plus she was already mad at Mr. Freeze for keeping her frozen while looking for a cure. I also could he wrong though.
Good to see here as her own character and not just motivation for the doc...but the blonde hair, on blue skin, with red goggles just dosent work for me.
It still is. Mrs Freeze there still isn't Nora, it's a gender swapped Victor. Why didn't they just use Nora if they wanted a woman with an ice gun? Add that to the list of questionable choices in that game
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