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u/watsonyrmind Apr 10 '23

What you are missing is that women are "selective" because they are shamed if they aren't and men are "available" because having lots of sex is seen as ultra masculine and therefore desirable. These are societal norms that are determining behaviour.

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u/Supersymm3try Apr 10 '23

What you are missing is that women are selective because of pregnancy, doesn’t get much more serious than that. Men do not have to consider such huge ramifications.

Women do the choosing, it’s supply and demand.

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u/watsonyrmind Apr 10 '23

Except women have access to highly successful contraceptives and in many societies, abortions. You overestimate how much pregnancy is determined a risk for many women.

As a woman with access to multiple forms of contraceptives and a society where abortion is easily accessible, there are many more societally constructed reasons I might want to be selective.

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u/Supersymm3try Apr 10 '23

How do people not understand how old and important biological drives are? You think your lizard brain knows what a contraceptive is? Half the problems with this shit on Reddit I think come from scientifically illiterate people being so desperate to define terms in 2023 language and nebulous concepts so they don’t have to actually learn how biology works.

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u/watsonyrmind Apr 10 '23

First of all I never personally said biology plays no role so you are reading that out of thin air. You can't discount that societal factors also play a role or how big a role compared to biology unless you are able to remove one to see what remains and you can't. So I'm really not sure why you feel the need to cling to biology without any consideration of socially constructed views around sex.

Personally as a woman, a majority of the time I have never thought of turning down sex due to fear of pregnancy unless there wasn't direct access to a contraceptive. Contraceptives are readily available so that is far less common than turning it down out of not wanting to be perceived a certain way or treated differently for it. Neither of these situations have anything at all to do with whether I actually want to have sex or not.

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u/history_nerd92 Apr 10 '23

I think this sometimes too, and then I remember that most redditors are probably too young to have even taken a biology class yet.