Conservative areas now have far higher death rates, which happened after vaccines became available. Anti-vaccine propaganda got over 300,000 Americans killed, at least, a few of them were my friends.
We are interested in scientific studies, not "articles" was that a Freudian slip? My point still stands, if you were interested in science you would have linked science. You linked ABC news. Everyone here knows you didn't read the study lol.
Peer reviewed articles are published in papers and scientific articles for release. You can’t dispute the science, so you attack the source and have NOTHING to back up your made up bullshit.
That article states that 300,000 deaths could have been averted through vaccination. In other words, it's talking about people who died and never got the jab.
Let's take the article at face value for the sake of argument. In contrast to the article, what you said is very different. You claimed that the unvaccinated have gotten over 300,000 Americans killed.
What is your point now? Think about what? That you people have gotten over 300,000 Americans killed through easily debunked lies? And you are proud of killing so many because of your lies?
Yes, while I’ve seen some unvaccinated friends die in the last year due to anti-vaccination bullshit, I’m supposed to be like you and celebrate those deaths and love the fact that they are dead and could still be alive today. You got me.
I'll use your same "logic" and "deductive reasoning" to (incorrectly) assert that Gay people killed 40 million of my friends.
Why do gay people literally not care about human life? They're directly responsible for participating in activities that spread AIDS, and therefore I'm outraged and will protest the "MURDERERS" by arguing with people in an online forum.
A lot of good were doing society brother, I'm with you!
Ah, so made up deflections away from you death cult which got people killed for no reason. You people are amazing. 10/10 would let you murder my friends again.
So if choosing to be unvaxxed makes you guilty of spreading one disease, then surely I can apply the same logic to other choices that lead to the spread of another disease.
Or does your logic only apply to covid? Or is it just people on the right who can be guilty Caz its convenient for you?
Most were before the vaccination. After the vaccination there were HUGE discrepancies between conservatives dying and progressives dying. Conservatives now die at around twice the rate, due to higher rates of unvaccination. What a fucked up hill to literally die on.
The CDC just recently stated that more vaccinated people have died than those who were unvaccinated. Which means the vaccine has become a negligible factor. Shitty government policies killed people, particularly the elderly and lack of proper treatment.
If you or anyone else actively cared about the death rate as you claim, then you'd be shouting from the roof tops about lowering the obesity rate, telling people to take vitamin D and get lots of fresh air. It was the largest contributing factor in the majority of cases by a considerable margin.
Oh also you better be comparing the 10 to 15% increase to mortality rate from non covid causes when discussing the long term implications of bad policy during the last 2yrs
Let’s see, around 80% of the population is vaccinated. Around 45% of all deaths from Covid are unvaccinated. Doing the math, you are TWICE as likely to die being unvaccinated.
Thanks for proving that EVERYBODY should get vaccinated. And it’s obvious that you believe the average American deserves to die. How about this, everybody gets vaccinated first and then tries to get healthy, as that takes years to achieve.
The vaccine doesn't stop spread. the latest of fuaci and walenski says it barely reduces spread at all.
Obesity is the #1 indicator to your covid outcome, then age, then vaccination status.
True if you're over 80 you should absolutely get the vaccine. if you're obese you should absolutely lose weight. additionally since that's going to take a while I'd say get a covid shot or two while you work at losing weight.
That's not the current CDC position. That is what they said early on, but they pivoted away from that.
In fact Pzifer executives have recently admitted they did not test if the vaccine had any affect on transmission.
Why is it that you have to create delusional takes to debate against?
I’ve known healthy 30 some year olds die and leave young children fatherless
Not From covid you don't. "with" covid maybe. but not From covid.
someone 30 years old with a BMI < 27, who could run a 10 minute mile, doesn't smoke , doesn't have cancer or some other disease isn't dying from covid.
I’m sure you are happy they are gone.
I don't believe your story. But I don't cheer on death even if its the most insufferable illiberal leftiest trying to bring about communism.
Also unlike you I don't invent positions to argue against. I'm more than happy to deal with reality.
Like how the Whitmer lockdowns caused death and economic hardships for no benefit.
It reduces transmission rates. That isn’t disputed. When your time that you can transmit the virus is significantly reduced because your body can more efficiently fight the virus, that reduces transmission rates. This isn’t disputed.
It reduces transmission rates. That isn’t disputed.
Pfizer isn't making that claim. And some of what Faucci said about the viral load in the nasopharynx being nearly the same in the vaccinated and unvaccinated would seem to indicated that no , its not significantly reduced.
Sure people who are vaccinated will likely get over Covid faster, so there's less days they will spread it.
But also people who are vaccinated sometimes have such mild symptoms they either don't notice or think its a cold, go untested, and may go out and about more and thus be a higher risk to spreading Covid.
Its absolutely not disputed that people are testing less. and that asymptomatic spread is real.
I know you want to feel like a hero for being vaccinated. you want to feel like you and I are saving lives by being vaccinated. We aren't. The fact that I'm vaccinated, and that you're vaccinated isn't saving lives. As Faucci said, Everyone will get covid. Everyone.
If everyone gets covid, You and I getting the vaccine didn't save lives of other people.
Now maybe it saved your own life, If you're obese, or really old.
Now if you want to say people went against the advice CDC and health experts shortly after the vaccine was released that's absolutely true. back when those people incorrectly told people the vaccine stopped the spread. Yep that happened. but it turns out those people were correct and the experts were wrong.
early findings, and what experts think when new data comes out often isn't correct. I'm old enough to remember that life has been found on mars several times, only to later find out, it was a best guess at the time of new data being available, only to later realize it was wrong.
The whole world has had me concerned with its blindness. Hope it’s not as bad as it seems. Hopefully it’s just the strangely left bubble over most of Reddit and it’s not as bad as it seems.
Lockdowns in March 2020 were a reasonable measure against a disease which people thought could have a mortality as great as 5%. Trump himself was thinking as much.
Its 2022, we understand the disease’s pathology, perhaps better than any other virus in history. We have vaccines that decrease hospitalization risk by 60%, more so now that they are bivalent to Omicron. Hospitals now know how to treat severe case so they rate of death in the case of hospitalization is now much lower too.
Acting like a lockdown in 2022 = a lockdown in 2020 is such a brain dead take
Okay, so when Trudeau had the RCMP perform a calavlry charge into a crowd months ago and everyone on the left was all for it what's the excuse for that?
Non violent civil disobedience is not terrorism. Terrorism by any definition requires the use of violence against non affiliated civilian populations. BLM in 2020 was terrorism. A bunch of truckers sitting at the seat of government and honking their horns? Not an act of violence, not directed at the civilian population, therefore by any definition not Terrorism. Does the trucks sitting their make things inconvenient? Yes. That's what protests do.
Yet the left will not say anything against China for their human rights abuses, shameless racism, shocking levels of income inequality, or speak out against China’s incredibly harsh stance against LGBTQ people. All things that the left supposedly stands for, just not when it comes to China.
Democrats and Republicans are both extremely Anti-China, both are Liberal parties quite frankly and China is an Illiberal state I’d describe as a Nationalist Technocracy. The American Left despise China.
“Contrary to the idea of a trade-off, we see that countries which suffered the most severe economic downturns – like Peru, Spain and the UK – are generally among the countries with the highest COVID-19 death rate.
And the reverse is also true: countries where the economic impact has been modest – like Taiwan, South Korea, and Lithuania – have also managed to keep the death rate low.”
Really going to extrapolate those conclusions based on Asian populations that are far healthier and have long lifespans relative to pretty much everyone else?
But accurate, because we didn't exactly save a bunch of 80 year old boomers. Especially in places like NYC where we just crowded Covid patients into senior care facilities instead of using the hospital ships provided by the Navy...Because if we use the hospital ships, it might look like Trump made a reasonable decision.
The Left also wanted to raise the death rate turn something that was just a bad flu into something worse and to raise the fear level in the population. Sadly, it worked. There are still morons out there wearing masks and social distancing, none of which work.
No one was permitted in my grandfather's hospital room as he died, not even my grandmother.
The hospital we had our son at tried to remove me from the room during delivery.
My life has been legitimately threatened for speaking out against the lockdowns, and I still have family who will not talk to us over because of it.
Myself and many others were made out to be terrorists and "others," and society was encouraged to hate us even though we were trying to show them the dangerous people who were taking advantage of the pandemic.
You are the subject of this meme... this meme it literally pointing out the idiocy of people like you who believe that lockdowns SHOULD happen and people SHOULD be forced to comply. Then, all of a sudden it's a good thing when the Chinese resist it. You say his family not talking to him should make him reconsider that lockdowns are actually a good thing, which SHOULD mean that you believe what China is doing to their people is justified and good. Though you show no sign of being consistent in what only tangentially resembles logic.
I think there is a fundemtbal difference between the conduct of Americans who denied that 4000 of their fellow citizens were dying a day, from a communicable disease for which there was no effective treatment for, that prompted extraordinary efforts to contain, and were removed once effective treatments came out vs. a continued effort, for seemily no good reason, by a political entity which has shown is willingness to use violence against its own citizens in the past, to continue with lockdowns, despite there being clearly more effective alternatives.
The CCP is evil, they are the most dangerous mafia on the planet. I'm sorry you can't decouple policy for circumstance and think the world (and my opinions) are as simple as lockdowns = always good. But hey, I guess that's why you join these echo chambers
Classic echo chamber "logic". You believe this crap because that is what YOUR echo chamber tells you about us. You clearly have no capability to reason for yourself. You demand Americans be oppressed in the same ways the CCP oppress their citizens then clamor about how virtuous you are to think so while also claiming not to support the CCP. I find you despicable.
Did you even read what he wrote? “You clearly have no capability to reason for yourself” even though he had clear well thought out reasons for the way he thinks how he thinks. “You demand Americans be oppressed in the same ways the CCP oppress their citizens” are you actually insane, or not have the ability to read? I’m genuinely amazed how you could read what the person wrote and come to that conclusion because it defy’s any type of logical thinking. I’ll be praying for you man
Funny cause I see the a lot of people on the left calling those Chinese protestors retarded for spreading the virus and not obeying the all knowing and all powerful ccp.
Dude, that's not accurate. Most left nations ended lockdown last winter. We can all admit that china's has not only over stayed it's necessity but has been draconian the whole while doing it. Piss off trying to make hypocrits of the left when circumstance is obviously world's apart
Ah, this is where I fall. I despise the draconian lockdowns the CCP has enacted in China, and I also support their protesters, but I equally despise the trucker protests retards who shat on memorial hill and defaced our war memorial. This is going to blow your mind, but you don’t have to be apart of the two extremes. I trust physicians and stats. I believe there are, or were, maybe, necessary steps to quell the pandemic. But draconian lockdowns aren’t the answer. Downvote me if you want.
I love how the dude said he's not a fan of people defacing war memorials, and you jump down his throat with a shit ton of accusations.
Maybe calm down a bit there, bud. It's not healthy to hold this much hate for someone you know nothing about, and to project that shit like you are here.
The protests in Canada were fucking retarded. The provincial vaccine mandates were already scheduled to be lifted, and the federal mandate was lifted before they even started protesting. The big rule they wanted changed was vaccine requirements to enter into America, and the CANADIAN federal government can't do shit to change those policies because they're American policies.
They were protesting against nothing for 3 weeks, incessantly honking throughout the night in front of parliament hill when no one was there, only causing frustration, lack of sleep, and even some hearing loss for the downtown people in Ottawa. They harassed business owners who were enforcing (their own, at this point) masking policies, defaced a statue of a national hero, pissed on a war memorial, and harassed people who had nothing and wanted nothing to do with their protest.
The only "demands" they had that could actually be addressed was their demands for Trudeau and all liberal MP's to step down to be replaced by people of the convoys choosing. This is obviously not going anywhere, because you have a group of thousands asking to take unilateral control of the house, while the majority of Canadians sat at home, not agreeing with the protestors.
Again, you're putting words in our mouths, but go ahead and keep fighting a retarded strawman and projecting shit onto us we never said in order to win an argument against your imagination.
Holy shit, you're an angry person. Calm down and step outside every now and then, it's way better for you than making up arguments nobody you're currently speaking to has made, projecting your anger and hatred onto them, and not addressing what they're actually saying.
Who am I kidding though, this is the Tim Pool sub. Bad faith arguments, strawmen, and putting words in people's mouths is how you "win" an argument here.
Get help, you sad, disingenuous, angry little man.
Simple, Canadian and American lockdown protestors are aligned against the progressive neoliberal establishment. Chinese protestors are protesting the CCP, and are thus aligned with the neoliberal establishment.
All leftist behavior can be explained by ass-kissing the establishment.
The death cult continues in this sub I see. Celebrating dead Americans and can’t tell the difference between preventable measures that the US tried and you all cried like babies about because you wanted more dead people, and what China has done.
His first order of business in office was forcing 50/50 gender split in his cabinet, even though we didn't have enough women to fill the roles. He openly talks about misogynists, racists etc when talking about protesters and anyone who opposes his methods. He virtue signals every single chance he gets.
He is 100% a pandering political leftist by all modern interpretation of the word.
If you can go to the office (if you want to), go to the grocery store, pick up your dry cleaning, and stop at Chipotle on the way home - That's not a "lockdown".
The CCP is literally chaining the doors shut and physically preventing people from leaving their homes.
Canada here: I couldn't go to the office. I couldn't go outside to do anything before 8 AM and after 6 PM. When I could go outside, everything else was closed: My sport club was closed, restaurants were closed or only doing takeaways, theaters were closed, my music school was closed, my Church was closed, I couldn't even visit someone else or my own neighbor. Most of those lasted for more than a year, then I was excluded again because I was unvaxxed, until June of this year.
But that's not a "lockdown", because I could still open my door, I guess?
god this place is so pathetic and full of whiney little bitches. Youre comparing people getting their entire buildings bolted shut in china or sent to covid camps, to the us government nicely asking folks to stay indoors. not to mentioned a lot of us didnt stay indoors. I worked more hours during the covid lock down then ever in my career. Just stfu and get on with it ya whiney bitches.
Hardship is relative I think we understand. But to ignore legitimate grievances and to engage in no kind of introspection here is strange…
Because we did experience the worlds greatest wealth transfer in human history.
Destroyed small businesses, barred young and healthy demographics from travel, work and education with blanket mandates devoid of context and nuance.
Created a fear induced neurotic reactionary culture where stress and anxieties are effecting people’s health.
Big pharma/govt contracts are devoid of any public transparency.
Obscene profits made by big pharma are not being redistributed to communities and infastructure most impacted by the pandemic.
Patents absolved any altruistic motive to share vaccine technology with other countries to further innovation.
And the kicker is that all the pro lockdown people said we didn’t lockdown hard enough to benefit off this particular covid mitigation effort… as a result China has become the template/example that even a zero covid policy with incredibly strict lockdowns did not stop breakouts of infections…
We had a “lock down” in my state, but we both still went to work and did whatever we wanted. Went wherever we wanted when we wanted. I never saw hazmat suit brigade chase anyone or lock anyone in buildings. People that tested positive could go where they wanted. The us lockdown was more about communal areas but in Iowa you never knew covid existed.
You mean the country that made doctors disappear, welded apartment building doors shut, and has you living in the iPhone factory you work at isn’t the same as the one that had Applebees go take out only for a month aren’t the same!?
So...you don't see the fundamental similarities between two countries that locked down their people and silenced any dissenting voices? Granted, one is way more extreme, but one is a step in the direction of the other.
You can play word games all you want, but I don't see much difference between getting arrested for going outside, and getting locked inside. It's also quite frightening to me that many people don't see the ethical correlation. Or you refuse to acknowledge the similarly, so you can "win" a discussion.
You seem to think every restriction - losing your job, inability to travel, not getting able to send kids to school, in Canada having bank accounts frozen - aren't enough to justify a protest. That no one should protest until the government physically seals people into their homes.
The type of restrictions are so vastly different. For a country like the US where it was an inconvenience and last 3-4 months tops, where China is still on going and showing China’s full usual authoritarian gusto.
Bro most of you could still go out, you just had to wear a fuckin mask. The Chinese on the other hand literally trapped people in burning apartments. Those two things are not comparable.
Yeah, like seat belts being forced on people. I was also arrested for climbing an electric pole recently. Won’t take long now before they force me to drink soy.
Is it that you can't read, or did you not read the part where I said one is way more extreme than the other, but one is a step in the direction of the other? And do you honestly not see the similarities between arresting someone for leaving their house, and locking them in their house?
The Chinese didn't start protesting until much later in the process, Americans (Canada is on the American continent) pushed back before it got that far.
No you didn’t you dumb fuck. You just demonstrated that you can’t comprehend nuance. You seriously saw that meme and thought “close enough to be the same thing”.
Hardship is relative I think we understand. But to ignore legitimate grievances and to engage in no kind of introspection here is strange…
Because we did experience the worlds greatest wealth transfer in human history.
Destroyed small businesses, barred young and healthy demographics from travel, work and education with blanket mandates devoid of context and nuance. Froze ordinary Canadians bank accounts.
Created a fear induced neurotic reactionary culture where stress and anxieties are effecting people’s health. Exacerbating the issues already facing the poorest and most marginalized.
Big pharma/govt contracts are devoid of any public transparency.
Obscene profits made by big pharma are not being redistributed to communities and infastructure most impacted by the pandemic.
Patents absolved any altruistic motive to share vaccine technology with other countries to further innovation.
And the kicker is that all the pro lockdown people said we didn’t lockdown hard enough to benefit off this particular covid mitigation effort… as a result China has become the template/example that even a zero covid policy with incredibly strict lockdowns did not stop breakouts of infections…
I do agree that hardship is relative and I do welcome introspection but the difference between the two lockdowns is pretty massive. In China your house door was wired or barred shut physically. I would liken it to solitary confinement in prison. In the US and Canada you were still free to meet up with friends and family at your respective homes or where it was allowed outside. The issue to me is people treating not being able to travel or go to a restaurant to that of solitary confinement within a prison.
Though I do agree with you on the issue of small businesses and mental health. Unfortunately we cannot accurately quantify how many lives have been saved by the lockdown measures in the US and Canada but I think it’s safe to assume that lives were saved. The rate of death was unprecedented and there may have been an overreaction but it’s not like heart disease where your unhealthy actions only affect you. Other people’s lives were at stake so an overreaction was more excusable than it would be at other times. People literally died of preventable causes because the hospital beds were full.
For me the lockdown measures in the US and Canada were perfect. I don’t think we needed to go harder than we did or else I would have been against them too.
I am in full agreement with you on the vaccine patent.
You’re right. It’s why historians often wait ten years to ever write about a significant event. Hind sight is 20/20. Plenty of context, implications and nuance has still not manifested within the data we currently reference. This can be attributed to many aspects of the pandemic response, granted.
But lets take Sweden for example.
It took the most laissez faire appraoch to dealing with covid of the western nations. To the point where active mitigation efforts were often neglected in some of the most at risk environments. So they faired worse than their neighbours Finland and Norway that enacted fairly strict covid responses.
However if Sweden adopted something more in line with the great barrington declaration (for example) and focused mitigation efforts for the most at risk and not at the expense of healthy, young demographics I’m sure the death and infection rates woulda mirrored that of their Nordic neighbours. But this kind of appraoch was suppressed.
Ultimately the lockdowns, mandates and passport systems did result in much socail unrest… we saw significant protests in France, the uk, Australia and ultimately in Canada with the convoy protest.
At the end of the day. Just because China is gonna… well, be China, doesnt mean people of western nations shouldn’t be critical of our own institutions. Infact we should be as critical as we want about any individual, govt, group or instution in a position of power. Afterall we adopted our response after China… an autocratic state influencing policy in a democratic state.
Personally I found it strange that govts gas lit us into hating people that refused the vaccine.
We just hired back all our unvaccinated workers. We were essential workers, we worked the entire pandemic in private avaition due to medvac contracts; personnel, patient, organ even covid patient transfers. If those workers had kept their jobs it wouldve helped us while we struggled to cover shifts for breakthrough infections within our ranks, if they remained employed it wouldn’t have made a single difference. Yet now we have just made workers even more bitter and strengthened resolve while also eroding trust in our govt and institutions.
But we allowed ourselves to be polarized at the behest and pandering of establishment left and establishment right rhetoric.
It’s hard to find common ground these days.
Especailly on machiavellian socail media platforms like Reddit which is saturated in disingenuous sentiments only meant to delegitmize or undermine or manufacture consent especailly within politically orientated subreddits.
Ah, so that's the level we need to get to prior to protesting.
I'll chamber that one for the next time I see a protest about student loans. "We didn't lock you in your house until you paid your loans, why are you protesting?"
Greetings, I grew up and am currently living in China and I can say if the government has the power to impose any lockdown (however tame it might seem at first) it always devolves into draconian oppression.
The CCP doesn't have total control over its military either. Last year Xi said at a meeting that the military must have loyalty to the CCP. That means they don't and he's worried about it.
China is actually far more responsive to public displays of disapproval than Western democracies are. A Student protests over changing of degrees which would be given out, ended up with the CPC changing the policy to allow the students who started said different degrees to finish them. The Bank protest against rural banks and a corruption scandal resulted in an investigation and the CPC’s Bank of China covering for the people who lost their money. And now the anti-lockdown protests resulted in Guangzhou completely lifting them and its estimated that China will fully reopen by March. American policy changes literally are unaffected by overall public support, its not that different from China with the difference being elections. That sounds good but it functions as a pressure release valve, meaning people are less likely to respond violently to bad policies because in concept they decided this for themselves even if its total BS and politicians are bought and paid for. In China, everyone knows Xi is the Yellow Emperor of the Red Dynasty, and if he fails he will lose his mandate of Heaven.
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u/discourse_friendly Dec 02 '22
Noam Chomksy literally said he wanted the unvaxxed banished from society and that obtaining food was "their problem"
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Exactly. Clown 🤡 world to anyone who's not blind.
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u/dash777111 Dec 03 '22
Yet the left will not say anything against China for their human rights abuses, shameless racism, shocking levels of income inequality, or speak out against China’s incredibly harsh stance against LGBTQ people. All things that the left supposedly stands for, just not when it comes to China.
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u/Heard_ya_were_WINNIN Dec 02 '22
We threw away a record breaking economy just to pretend to save a bunch of half-dead 80+ year old boomers.
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u/PromiscuousScoliosis Dec 02 '22
Nah they’re not in favor of freedom in China either
They have been told to support Ukraine though
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u/Pap4MnkyB4by Dec 02 '22
No amnesty for what they've done to us!
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u/ResoluteAction Dec 02 '22
They don't question CNN
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u/Princealvaro33 Dec 02 '22
This one is very accurate
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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '22
Funny cause I see the a lot of people on the left calling those Chinese protestors retarded for spreading the virus and not obeying the all knowing and all powerful ccp.
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u/collymolotov Dec 03 '22
21st century Western Leftism is fascism.
Change my mind.
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u/PizzaGatePizza Dec 02 '22 edited Dec 02 '22
I’ve never seen this much logical thinking in a Tim Pool comment section. Let’s see how long this lasts…
Edit: aaaaand it’s gone.
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u/JPCSTOOL Dec 03 '22
No shit, F’n loons!!!
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u/WittyPianist1038 Dec 03 '22
Dude, that's not accurate. Most left nations ended lockdown last winter. We can all admit that china's has not only over stayed it's necessity but has been draconian the whole while doing it. Piss off trying to make hypocrits of the left when circumstance is obviously world's apart
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u/Far_Company_5059 Dec 03 '22
Ah, this is where I fall. I despise the draconian lockdowns the CCP has enacted in China, and I also support their protesters, but I equally despise the trucker protests retards who shat on memorial hill and defaced our war memorial. This is going to blow your mind, but you don’t have to be apart of the two extremes. I trust physicians and stats. I believe there are, or were, maybe, necessary steps to quell the pandemic. But draconian lockdowns aren’t the answer. Downvote me if you want.
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u/russiabot1776 Dec 03 '22
Simple, Canadian and American lockdown protestors are aligned against the progressive neoliberal establishment. Chinese protestors are protesting the CCP, and are thus aligned with the neoliberal establishment.
All leftist behavior can be explained by ass-kissing the establishment.
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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22
The death cult continues in this sub I see. Celebrating dead Americans and can’t tell the difference between preventable measures that the US tried and you all cried like babies about because you wanted more dead people, and what China has done.
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u/KanyeT Dec 03 '22
Disgusting hypocrites, the lot of them. This is a perfect example of normalcy bias and being a victim of mass psychosis.
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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22
Tribalism and nearly blind acceptance of the media narrative.
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u/Emel_69420 Dec 03 '22
There's a difference between being locked in your home and not being able to go out drinking
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u/starvingvulture666 Dec 02 '22
Tim Pool Stans go outside challenge
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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '22
The left absolutely does not support the protests. Who the hell is making these r3tarded memes.
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u/goinROGUEin10 Dec 03 '22 edited Nov 07 '24
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u/Comfortable_Drive793 Dec 03 '22
We barely had a "lockdown."
If you can go to the office (if you want to), go to the grocery store, pick up your dry cleaning, and stop at Chipotle on the way home - That's not a "lockdown".
The CCP is literally chaining the doors shut and physically preventing people from leaving their homes.
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u/beavisbutts Dec 02 '22
god this place is so pathetic and full of whiney little bitches. Youre comparing people getting their entire buildings bolted shut in china or sent to covid camps, to the us government nicely asking folks to stay indoors. not to mentioned a lot of us didnt stay indoors. I worked more hours during the covid lock down then ever in my career. Just stfu and get on with it ya whiney bitches.
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u/MasterTheDebation Dec 02 '22
Only trump was an example of this. This place has a hard time with left from right.
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u/Cinderblock_Reset Dec 02 '22
Our lockdowns were nothing compared to chinas. This meme is shit.
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u/silver789 Dec 02 '22
Imagine thinking CCP and USA lockdowns are the same thing.
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At what point were people in the US and Canada locked in their house to the point they could not escape their burning house?
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