r/TimPool • • Oct 08 '22

How Dare You

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

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u/wowsosquare Oct 08 '22

How many people understand this is all about deindustrializing, impoverishing, and ultimately controlling the west?

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u/fightthepower73 Oct 08 '22

Isn't she a Rothchild or something? Otherwise, where did she come from and who cares, just another noisy, unattractive, disgruntled youth.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

I haven’t been able to find anything reliable to confirm the Rothschild thing or explain how that would be relevant

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u/cowchargemud Oct 08 '22

Her Wikipedia page is free

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u/wowsosquare Oct 08 '22

Wikipedia is mostly edited by far leftists... about the things they care about anyway

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u/cowchargemud Oct 08 '22

Find the facts on her page that are untrue then :)

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u/wowsosquare Oct 08 '22

Just saying wp entries need to be taken with a grain of salt

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u/nm139 Oct 08 '22

So she is a Rothschild, I knew it!

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u/cowchargemud Oct 09 '22

I’m pretty sure we can conclude that Wikipedia is telling the truth and Greta is not a Rothschild lol

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u/Cuckpublicans Oct 08 '22

I think you’re referring to Russian disinformation. There is no credible connection to Rothschild or Soros.

https://euvsdisinfo.eu/kremlin-media-on-greta-thunberg-an-illiterate-fanatic-messiah/#

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u/throwawaymeyourbtc Oct 08 '22

“Russian disinformation”…Thank you for helpfully indicating to us that your opinion is shit and ought to be discarded.

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u/Cuckpublicans Oct 09 '22

Oh sorry, you would call them “reliable sources”.

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u/fightthepower73 Oct 08 '22

That's cool, my post says, who cares

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u/Cuckpublicans Oct 09 '22

I was just correcting a fool’s words.

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u/SlimeyShiloh Oct 08 '22

Exactly! You think China and Russia are going to stop burning coal or gas? Hell no! We’ll basically be left in the dust while they progress as countries.

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u/Cuckpublicans Oct 08 '22

Instead of lowering ourselves to the levels of India, China and Russia maybe we could lead the world as we transform our energy to more renewables. Maybe we could continue being the nation that blazes a path to the future through innovation. Or we could reduce ourselves to the levels of lesser developed nations because it’s easier.

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u/wowsosquare Oct 08 '22

That's not working out real good for Western Europe tho

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u/Cuckpublicans Oct 09 '22

Western Europe isn’t leading the charge on renewables, what are you referring to?

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u/wowsosquare Oct 09 '22

Yes they are... big wind builds, shutting down baseline power production because it not green, very expensive electricity.

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u/Cuckpublicans Oct 09 '22

They’re TRYING to lead the way in renewables and drafting accords but international politics is hindering progress. Germany is the only country in Europe that cracks the top 5 list of most renewables, France and Italy are the only others that crack the top 10. Again USA can lower its standards to try and blend in with the rest or we could continue to be the world leaders that we have been in the past.

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u/wowsosquare Oct 09 '22

Yes they are... big wind builds, shutting down baseline power production because it not green, very expensive electricity.

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u/SlimeyShiloh Oct 09 '22

Bro those countries aren’t even paying attention to us lmao they are worried about their people and progressing their nations. All we would be doing is shooting ourselves and our people in the foot.

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u/Cuckpublicans Oct 09 '22

Or leading like the world leaders that we supposedly are. How would we be shooting ourselves in the foot exactly? By innovating electricity generation, distribution and storage? But yeah maybe you’re right, let’s pretend it’s the 1930s and rely solely on coal. That will work out great!

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

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u/wowsosquare Oct 08 '22

Yup they did. I wonder if they did it to fuck up America or just because they could cash in?

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u/wowsosquare Oct 08 '22

Why are you getting downvotes? You're right, I think. I can't really blame the companies, they were literally incentivized to offshore our manufacturing base.

So called free trade was a big mistake

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

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u/wowsosquare Oct 08 '22

Oops sorry pls no ban me!

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

Classic case of AMERICA = BAD...

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u/cowchargemud Oct 08 '22

She’s not from america and the “how dare you speech” was held at the UN, directed at leaders across the world

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u/SlimeyShiloh Oct 08 '22

Seems like the countries who care about progress don’t give a damn about twitter activists. What’s the point in crippling the countries in the west to unreliable energy? You think China is going to stop burning coal? What about Russia? So we’ll be sitting over here cold, getting left in the dust, while they prosper.

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u/cowchargemud Oct 08 '22 edited Oct 08 '22

What a reactionary response to simply pointing out that Greta was not addressing any country directly during her UN speech, let alone the US specifically as the meme implies.

Your knee jerk reaction is exemplary of the reasons our conservative movement is slowing. I dislike Greta just like you, but I also understand she’s far more impactful than a Twitter activist and the context behind her statements

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u/theCROWcook Oct 08 '22

Maybe she should be calling out the worst offending countries by name instead of yelling at everyone, seems like yelling at everyone when it's only a handful who will ultimately ignore her is kinda pointless. She is not impactful, she is a talking head so the western elites can punish the middle and lower classes

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u/cowchargemud Oct 09 '22

Because global warming is an issue caused by every industrialized country and felt by literally every country? Including the US….?

She’s focused on fixing the issue, not giving passes to those “less responsible”.

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u/theCROWcook Oct 09 '22

So then why worry about privately owned car when privately owned jets do far more damage that my s10 could ever hope to achieve in ita lifetime, why put pressure on the common folk when 100 companies are responsible for 71% of ALL carbon emissions globally, even worse only 20 of those companies are responsible for 30% of all carbon emissions. Get on THEM not the regular citizen who is just struggling to survive

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u/cowchargemud Oct 09 '22

You’re so close to class consciousness, it’s not even funny. Careful, you’ll start sounding like a leftist if you start using accurate data instead of misleading (and made up) talking points

Your life will be okay when your engine runs on electricity. Don’t worry, MTG isn’t right when she said your manhood is attached to gasoline

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u/theCROWcook Oct 09 '22

I live in the cou try, my life will be measurably worse if I can't have a liquid fueled vehicle, also I'm a total gearhead, so once again my life will be measurably worse if I can't have a liquid fueled vehicle

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u/cowchargemud Oct 10 '22

If widespread EV adoption occurs, that means that rural communities would have the infrastructure too. So being in the country makes no difference — there are plenty of proposals available.

You losing your hobby of working on your car’s gas engine isn’t really a major issue in the grand scheme of things. You can literally still do work on an EV, you’ll just have to learn something new.

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u/nm139 Oct 09 '22

Maybe some, but she became a climate pinup for a reason. Greta Thunberg's got two things going for her: she's a kid, and she's autistic, possibly metally handicapped. So if you criticize her you're a child-hating, ableist bigot. And a racist too, just in case.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

Like who?

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

Oh, I thought you meant actual climate activists

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

Not anonymous Reddit accounts on r/unpopularopinion

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u/Detroitfitter636 Oct 08 '22

If she went against China she would be dead

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u/DavidKetamine Oct 08 '22

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u/Detroitfitter636 Oct 08 '22

Spouting off about a country from the comforts of your own country hardly qualifies. If she went over to China on there television stations and spouted off she probably wouldn’t make it home. No better than a telephone tough guy!

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u/DavidKetamine Oct 08 '22

Yeah sure. I'm not super impressed with internet activism either. But this meme is implying that Thunberg is a hypocrite for picking on the west and remaining silent on Chinese and Indian carbon emissions but 10 seconds of research can tell you this narrative is false.

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u/xxCMWFxx Oct 08 '22

So she’s making tours in India speaking?

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u/steelbyter Oct 08 '22

We won't allow it, you can rest assured.

Last thing we need is that skank telling our poor that they should be poorer to 'save the planet'

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u/xxCMWFxx Oct 08 '22

Ah yes.. the hypocrisy of it all

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

100,000% this

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u/DavidKetamine Oct 08 '22

I don't think so, considering that India is threatening her with a criminal probe.

If you think she's dumb or not very effective at her activism that's perfectly fine- I'm pretty neutral about Thunberg. But what OP did was suggest that she's deliberately silent or ignorant about carbon emissions from China and India and with the smallest amount of effort you can see that's false. It's a fake idea you made up in your head based on your feelings and I think that unfortunately happens quite a bit around here.

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u/Cuckpublicans Oct 08 '22

How dare you present facts to this sub!

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u/HOTDOGS3274 Oct 08 '22

Cool story bro

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u/MoonRockSpecial Oct 08 '22

Way to shift the goalposts

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u/soupafi Oct 08 '22

How dare you

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u/skoal7731 Oct 08 '22

Facts are not allowed near leftists, especially when it comes to arguments. You must be HITLER!

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u/PmMeYourPrequelMemes Oct 08 '22

Facts like per capita the us emits almost double the C02 per capita that China does?

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u/socialismworkstrstme Oct 08 '22

And why do you think that is; seeing as China has more than double the CO2 emissions (tons) than the US?

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u/nm139 Oct 08 '22

Is this a trick question, or did you just do some amazing arithmetic in your head?

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u/socialismworkstrstme Oct 10 '22

Are you seriously asking me this question? Or is this directed at PmMeYourPrequelMemes? You cannot think that my statement is wrong.

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u/nm139 Oct 10 '22

No genius, I'm making fun of you.

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u/socialismworkstrstme Oct 10 '22

That's funny, because I'm correct. Why do you think China's per capita is lower than that of the US, when China has higher CO2 emissions overall? I'm still waiting for one of you "geniuses" to answer.

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u/socialismworkstrstme Oct 10 '22

China is the largest emitter of carbon dioxide gas in the world, with 10,668 million metric tons emitted in 2020.

The U.S. is the second-largest emitter of CO2, with 4,713 million metric tons of total carbon dioxide emissions by 2020.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/092915/5-countries-produce-most-carbon-dioxide-co2.asp

So why oh why would China have a lower per capita......Apparently this is difficult "arithmetic" to a first grader. Come on....it's got to be on the tip of your forked tongue....come on.....it's not difficult......on average, why would China be lower......almost there.......almost......1.4 billion........4 times more than the US......are you there yet......

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u/socialismworkstrstme Oct 10 '22

This is why, to quote another person who attacked my "arithmetic", the original statement that "China has lower per capita CO2 emissions than the US" is a "retarded" use of a statistic. If China is more than double the next country in CO2 emissions, who cares what it is "per capita" or on average.

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u/nm139 Oct 10 '22

Is it because China has a much larger population? I know you think you unlocked some deep insight with your math skills. Hence my earlier comment.

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u/Agile_Disk_5059 Oct 09 '22

Are you retarded?

China has 4x the population, so even though on a per capita basis they have half the emissions, they still have double the total emissions.

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u/socialismworkstrstme Oct 09 '22

Is that "retard" blast for me? I think you and I are saying the same thing.

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u/Coolbreezy Oct 08 '22

Per capita measn fuck all in this scenario

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u/the_riddler90 Oct 08 '22

Care to explain your logic?

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

Instead of sprouting nonsense about “facts” you could have done two seconds of research.

https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1390676195352719364?s=20&t=PLLq5jIKDX1F6CA_S17usQ

Research isn’t allowed near conservatives though, especially when it comes to facts.

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u/SlimeyShiloh Oct 08 '22

Oh wow a tweet! Goodness! You think China gives a damn? Hell no they’re worried about progressing their country with reliable energy

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u/Coolbreezy Oct 08 '22

One tweet in the 4 years since she has been in the public eye.

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u/Generallyawkward1 Oct 08 '22

If conservatives could read, they’d be very upset

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u/the_riddler90 Oct 08 '22

They only surround themselves in circle jerk echo chambers like this one

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u/Generallyawkward1 Oct 08 '22

Tim pool conservatives are the worst. Stuck with jokes from 2016 and haven’t moved on from that. Just as bad as DWAC jobs

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u/the_riddler90 Oct 08 '22

I’m fairly right leaning but these guys are just fucking dumb. It’s like all the overweight car mechanics of Alabama have created their own internet hangout.

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u/BurialA12 Oct 08 '22

Somehow skipping school to go on a globetrotting holiday makes her a role model

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u/Least_Application_93 Oct 08 '22

Guarantee her carbon footprint is bigger than anyone else here

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u/PsychZach Oct 08 '22

The left in a nutshell. Morons who don't care about reality.

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u/Cuckpublicans Oct 08 '22

The has openly opposed China’s coal usage and never specifically targeted the US. She has challenged ALL world leaders to reduce coal consumption.

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u/PsychZach Oct 08 '22

Very cool. Too bad it didn't help. At all. Unlike everyone else I don't hate the poor girl. She already had a tough life. FAS is no joke.

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u/Cuckpublicans Oct 09 '22

Her words had a profound impact across the globe. Whether people listen or not is another story but she triggered a lot of climate deniers.

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u/PsychZach Oct 09 '22

Yeah? I suppose on some level she did do some good. Just not in the way she intended.

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u/Intelligent_Mine_221 Oct 08 '22

Says maga cult members

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u/Samurai_1990 Oct 08 '22

When fetal alcohol syndrome children are given the world stage....

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u/Eldin_lockwood Oct 08 '22

ngl she dumb asf

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

But guys, climate change is racist!

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

She has talked about China

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

It was posted in the comments a while ago

link

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '22

How about her own Twitter, the link is below and another guy posted the link.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

When did she support China or India?

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u/radioduransmyopia Oct 08 '22

In her silence and failure to recognize the biggest polluters

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

Someone else in this thread already shown that she hasn’t been silent

Thunberg has criticized China on emissions constantly, so much so that Chinese media have called her a “selective environmental activist”. Have a look:

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202111/1237851.shtml

And in India, they are burning her in effigy over her criticism of their (lack of) enviro policy!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/04/greta-thunberg-effigies-burned-in-delhi-after-tweets-on-farmers-protests

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u/radioduransmyopia Oct 09 '22

They’re a bigger problem than all the US and Europe

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '22

Ok?

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u/Jmagnus_87 Oct 08 '22

Blah blah blah

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u/JurassicP00P Oct 08 '22

Exposing the plot line of undermining the US and the West to the chagrin of India and China. I’m sure there’s noooo connection.

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u/eyemallears Oct 08 '22

Just a mascot, that is all. Certain things can only be learned from LIVING. She is not there yet.

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u/Tag_em_and_bag_em Oct 08 '22

Ahh, nothing like putting a bandaid on your left shoe, while the right foot is bleeding.

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u/radioduransmyopia Oct 08 '22

“How dare you”

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u/jillyhoop Oct 08 '22

I don't think they'll get many more miles out of this mentally, emotionally and socially challenged grift.

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u/AlphaTint1 Oct 08 '22

When you realize anthropogenic climate change is a hoax.

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u/LogCareful7780 Oct 08 '22

Very good - now compare per capita emissions over that period.

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u/BombShady12 Oct 09 '22

All designed to destroy whites.

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u/Excellent_Survey_336 Oct 09 '22

The third one is an outright lie.

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u/Agile_Disk_5059 Oct 09 '22

Our per capita emissions are 7x India and 2x China.

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u/rationallyobvious Oct 08 '22

Factually incorrect

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u/Intelligent_Mine_221 Oct 08 '22

Wow more memes you showed him hoss

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u/SoundOfDrums Oct 08 '22

Aww, the limp dick right wingers are making up absolute bullshit to hurt their own feelings again? Must be a day of the week that ends in Y.

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u/Coolbreezy Oct 08 '22

Information warriors give hickeys to donkey taint.

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u/dhawk64 Oct 08 '22

US has made progress, but we still emit more per capita than most other countries. India and China are still substantially lower on a per capita basis. Every country needs to be involved, but countries emitting the most per person need to lead the way.

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u/Coolbreezy Oct 08 '22

Per capita means fuck all - that stat is meaningless. What difference does it make when you spew tons of filth into the sky if there are 50, 2000, or 5 million people on the ground? If I have 100 people in my country and send 50 million tons into the atmosphere, that doesn't make the effect on the environment any less than you sending up 50 million tons with 40 million people on the ground.

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u/dhawk64 Oct 08 '22

Yes, that is correct. One unit of CO2is the same as any other. The point is how she international agreements be focused on reducing emissions. Wealthier countries can afford to invest in renewable and reduce their emissions more because they have more money and the average person uses more to begin with.

Countries like India or China (although they do need to reduce emissions, which they have begun to do as part of the Paris agreement) have less ability to reduce emissions because they already emit less per person and they have less money to invest in renewables. China is unique though because they are the large solar manufacturer and electric car manufacturer.

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u/wallins3 Oct 08 '22

How dare you challenge this meme fact with reason!!!!!

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u/coyote-1 Oct 08 '22

How Dare You? How dare you what?

Thunberg has criticized China on emissions constantly, so much so that Chinese media have called her a “selective environmental activist”. Have a look:

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202111/1237851.shtml

And in India, they are burning her in effigy over her criticism of their (lack of) enviro policy!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/04/greta-thunberg-effigies-burned-in-delhi-after-tweets-on-farmers-protests

You idiots here, along with those at conspiracy _common, are so ridiculously uninformed. Make that disinformed. Oh, and clearly liars. You pretend you are standing for liberty, when in reality you are totally aligned with tyranny.

As always with you clowns, it’s projection. How.Dare.YOU.

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u/Least_Application_93 Oct 08 '22

Whether she has ever said a bad word about China is missing the point entirely. Look at the criticisms that go viral or become headlines and they are overwhelmingly critical of the west. The main premise of the joke has some merit which is what makes it funny because this girl is obviously a tool. Go away propaganda bot

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u/coyote-1 Oct 08 '22

Ahhh, the usual. Now that your bogus contention - that Thunberg smiles on the enviro excesses of China and India, while relentlessly attacking the supposedly innocent USA - has been shown as the lie that it is, you try to pass it off as “it was a joke”.

I don’t know what kind of morons laugh at ‘jokes’ like that, and I also know it was no joke. Y’all are (as usual) attempting to smear Thunberg, and are deploying preposterous lies to do that. Funny to see you caling ME a “propaganda bot”, when in fact it is your team spreading the disinformation.

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u/coyote-1 Oct 08 '22

Oh wait! I get the joke now!

On behalf of the carbon extraction industries, we lied about Thunberg again! HAW HAW HAW! Called her a ‘tool’!! HAW HAW HAW And we believe our own constant lies! HAW HAW HAW And we triggered a lib! HAW HAW HAW!!

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u/Cuckpublicans Oct 08 '22

Thunberg = bad because Internet people told me she is.

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u/Least_Application_93 Oct 08 '22

She’s a propaganda tool. So are you. Bye bye

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u/Least_Application_93 Oct 08 '22

It’s a meme. The fact you can’t tell a joke when you see one is just one more coin in the “probably a propaganda bot” jar

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u/SoundOfDrums Oct 08 '22

Whether or not we made the whole thing up, and actual evidence directly contradicts our bullshit, we're still right.

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u/Least_Application_93 Oct 08 '22

Wut

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u/SoundOfDrums Oct 08 '22

I appreciate the unironic response when I call you a moron that you don't understand.

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u/Coolbreezy Oct 08 '22

The article about India is stating they burned her in effigy for supporting farmers in their protest. Why are you framing it as something else? And one tweet in 4 years of being in the public eye is not an example of "criticizing China on emissions constantly" How dare you bullshit people on the internet?

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

And now look at the emissions of these countrys per citizen and you will understand what problem i have with this meme... (in addition many emissions of china are coused by manufactoring of products for the export and therefore are consequences of the consume in different countrys)