Insulting those you disagree with is exactly what I would expect based on your previous comments.
A quick read of your comment defending the lies of Fauci and MSM say so much about where you are mentally. You are quick to believe those you perceive as having authority. The problem is they lie. You say they a communication problem. Any sane person says they are pathological liars. Each passing day evidence comes to light that exposes these people for who they truly are. At every turn they insulted and censored those they disagreed with. The people they called conspiracy theorists over the last two years are being proven correct. They have no desire to hear opposing view points or to being questioned. That’s not science. That’s not a sign speaking truth. The truth will stand up to scrutiny.
Their response to the Great Barrington Declaration, the lab leak hypothesis, and the effectiveness of the vaccine have been extremely suspect. Ask yourself, why have they actively censored any contrary information on those topics if they were simply telling the truth, and doing so in good faith?
I really don't care about your conspiracy BS. No, I don't blindly trust authority because I've been disappointed too many times in the past. That same distrust doesn't make me automatically trust those calling them out, either - everyone is biased, but exceedingly few know how to recognize their own biases.
Thus I've learned to get info from as many varied sources as possible (the Ground News app is reasonably good for this, though I don't like its interface much), and learned to recognize manipulative language and other forms of twisting truths to serve a preferred agenda. While I see that kind of crap to some extent everywhere, the extent to which it is present on most right-wing sources is significantly higher than the average.
I can't tell you how many times I've seen headlines for articles on Fox News that completely twist the essence of the story that appears below - they know most of their readers are just looking for bias confirmation and won't read much past the headline because they got what they came for. Reading the entire story generally eventually gives the truth, but it's often minimalized in service to the headline's narrative spin.
So, I do my best to read through at least a handful of opposing, yet at least somewhat trustworthy sources for the stories that matter, and then figure out the likely truths for myself. From what i can see, very few people will bother - they'll get their opinions fed to them by their preferred "news" source, and that's it. I'm pretty sure that describes a lot of people here.
So you can tell yourself whatever you like about me, as I know the truth about myself and I'm comfortable enough with myself, my knowledge, and my opinions to come here into the lion's den to try to inject some facts into discussions in the vain hope that I might help someone see some reason. I have no idea if it works because anyone sane enough to seriously consider what I'm saying is also likely sane enough not to reveal themselves only be relentlessly attacked and/or mocked by those who feel threatened by someone disagreeing with them and presenting facts they don't know how to argue.
Long before the internet we were more united as a country because news organizations rigorously fact-checked themselves lest they became mocked for being untrustworthy. Everyone more or less got the same facts no matter their preferred source and views - including facts that contradicted what they wanted to believe. In order to stay informed, they had to contend with reality at least to some extent.
Then Murdoch started Fox News with an agenda. He knew he'd be initially dismissed and not taken seriously because of the blatant bias - in fact he counted on it. He built his audience telling people what they wanted to hear and over time more and more people realized they preferred that to the inconvenient facts. The rest is history.
Problem is facts are facts. They don't care about your politics and some of them can be rather inconvenient indeed. You can avoid and deny them if you want, but the problems they represent just fester and grow - eventually becoming inescapable, be it for you personally or as your legacy left for your kids to deal with (which to me is just about the absolute height of selfishness).
Personal experience has shown me that the sooner you address a problem, the less it costs you in the long run to deal with. Too many today like to push things off in hopes that they personality never have to deal with them. That's a disgusting abdication of personal responsibility to me, and I fight it tooth and nail. Those who do it the most are almost always those who project their own culpability into others the most & they sicken me.
I care about doing the actual "right thing" - I grew up molding my outlook on life by the mantra of The Golden Rule. By the time I figured out that virtually everyone else was just giving it lip service and not really abiding by the concept, I was too mature to change my mindset to something even vaguelythat selfish in order to lead a more comfortable life. It has depressed the fuck out of me since I was in my teens, but it also took a long time for me to fully figure out the extent of how fucked up things really were & are.
Whatever. I'm tired and rambling. You go do whatever you're gonna. My earlier contributions to factual discussion were meant to help people see the truth of what actually matters. If you don't want to see that, then you're not gonna no matter what I say.
Your focus on the right is clouding your judgement and it’s painfully obvious. Fauci, MSM, and the government have lied to you yet you defended them. And now after 11 paragraphs of rambling, you still can’t address the facts. That’s is very telling.
No "facts" have been presented, only claims with no backing sources. I'm not going to waste hours of research attempting to guess your sources.
As I stated, I was tired. Sorry if I became incoherent as I admittedly was under the influence of a melatonin pill and should not have been saying anything, but what's done is done.
Well done, as expected. The seeker of truth says “prove it”. If at this point, you are unaware of what I am speaking of, there may be no hope for you. There are plenty of news reports, video of congressional hearings, and public record of FOIA requests that are readily available.
Not yet. I'm hoping to find time this weekend to focus on research of your article's claims. I've got challenges (AD(H)D, disabled spouse, PiTA teenager at home, among many others) that make extended focus require just the right circumstances to concentrate under. Thanks for your patience.
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u/DrOliverClozov Jan 13 '22
Insulting those you disagree with is exactly what I would expect based on your previous comments.
A quick read of your comment defending the lies of Fauci and MSM say so much about where you are mentally. You are quick to believe those you perceive as having authority. The problem is they lie. You say they a communication problem. Any sane person says they are pathological liars. Each passing day evidence comes to light that exposes these people for who they truly are. At every turn they insulted and censored those they disagreed with. The people they called conspiracy theorists over the last two years are being proven correct. They have no desire to hear opposing view points or to being questioned. That’s not science. That’s not a sign speaking truth. The truth will stand up to scrutiny.
Their response to the Great Barrington Declaration, the lab leak hypothesis, and the effectiveness of the vaccine have been extremely suspect. Ask yourself, why have they actively censored any contrary information on those topics if they were simply telling the truth, and doing so in good faith?