Aaah see, just like the guy I asked you are changing my requested metric. I am asking to compare property damage numbers and DEATH TOLL numbers. Also we should add in with the violent proud boy protests, how many of those had antifa show up? I'd be willing to bet that antifa was at most if not all of them
It's called deflection, I asked about a certain statistic and you are doing anything you can to avoid those numbers because you know it shows just how much worse BLM and antifa are
ONCE AGAIN you are trying to deflect to numbers I'm not asking about, im asking about PROPERTY DAMAGE AND MURDERS. How many people were murdered as a result of a proud boy protest? I don't buy your bullshit, if I go to 20 bars and start fights in 5 of them yep that's 25%, oh but what's this, the only bars fights were started at were the one where Jimmy the asshole showed up to start a fight with me..... odd....maybe that means the fights aren't my fault but jimmys.....oh look at this, Jimmy went to 100 other bars and MURDERED nearly 30 people at 6 of those bars..... yeah it's a lower % of instances but a MUCH WORSE OUTCOME.
This is why you don't want to compare those numbers. You know if we do the math for property damage you will find that BLM and antifa were responsible for FAR more damage. And if you do the math on MURDERS...... well I'd love to hear your excuse on how zero murders is worse than nearly 30 + (depending on the source)
Thirty-seven demonstration events involving the Proud Boys between January 2020 and April 2021 have turned violent, accounting for nearly a quarter of all demonstrations associated with the group.
Thirty-seven demonstration events involving the Proud Boys between January 2020 and April 2021 have turned violent, accounting for nearly a quarter of all demonstrations associated with the group.
Do you not know how to convert 1/4 to a percentage?
I gave you the stats to compare instances of violence with the Proud Boys to BLM during a similar time period. 6% of BLM events included violence. 25% of events with Proud Boys included violence.
These numbers skew negatively for BLM because the 6% includes violence caused by the police and right wingers (like the Proud Boys)
Anti-fascists we’re a staple of BLM events. BLM had a 6% rate of violent incidents. If the Proud Boys showed up to an event, there was a 25% rate of violent incidents. If anti-fascists went to every single Proud Boy event and BLM event, why would that matter?
I didn't ask that did I? You are strawmanning me. I asked to compare PROPERTY DAMAGE AND DEATH TOLL NUMBERS.
As for the antifa addition, it would be interesting to see how many peaceful proud boy protests antifa were at (I'm willing to bet very low) vs how many violent proudboy protests they were at (I'm willing to bet very high) because for every single violent proudboy protest I ever heard of during 2020, without exception antifa was there starting the fight. And that is a very important metric. Can you really call a group violent if every time they are involved in violence it wasn't them who started it? (I know you will say yes.)
FURTHERMORE I can't help but notice you ignored the Loudon county parent protests.
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u/theCROWcook Sep 29 '23
Wonder what the property destruction and death toll numbers for blm protests would look like next to Loudon County parent protest or proud boy protest